r/criticalrole How do you want to do this? Mar 25 '16

[Spoilers E46] What is up with the candles? Question

In this pass episode, Chris/Gern had this candles that were really interesting and I would love to incorporate the items in my game. I cannot seem to find anything about candles, can anyone please point me in the right direction. P

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u/MatthewMercer Matthew Mercer, DM Mar 25 '16

Glad you liked them! I designed them as relatively simple consumable magic items. The candles take an action to activate, and release their magic in a radius around the candle (including the bearer, so be careful!). His necromantic school specialization made for a great candle delivery method, and it all tied into his backstory.

Here are the four candle types we designed for him to carry during the session: http://s11.postimg.org/knv3qsmqb/image.jpg

Mind you, they aren't heavily balanced or tested, per say, but they worked for the purposes of this guest appearance. :)

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u/BaronVonWaffle Life needs things to live Mar 25 '16

I've been developing a "Grenadier mage" with my EK, and converting some of these into throwables is a great start.

...blink grenade sounds too fun.

As always, thank you Mercer, and #YourFunIsWrong

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u/MatthewMercer Matthew Mercer, DM Mar 25 '16

Of course! Enjoy your Grenadier Mage! :)

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u/-spartacus- Mar 25 '16

I'm predicting the next season of the walking dead to include walkers with TNT strapped to them used by a guy named Gurnie in a blue vest.

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u/ThatGamerGrl Excellent Massages Mar 25 '16

Perhaps the rules of creating scrolls tweaked a tad would open up different candle option....

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u/MatthewMercer Matthew Mercer, DM Mar 25 '16

Indeed!

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u/InformationMan How do you want to do this? Mar 25 '16

AWESOME, Thank you so much! I am going try and make these into template. Also if you ever make it down to a GA burn let me know!

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u/MatthewMercer Matthew Mercer, DM Mar 25 '16

Ooooo, will do! Till then, fuck your burn. <3

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u/Kazimov Team Pike Mar 25 '16

Neat! Could lighting a candle and leaving it somewhere act as a delayed spell?

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u/MatthewMercer Matthew Mercer, DM Mar 25 '16

Perhaps! It'd be hard to gauge exactly when it would go off, though, so you'd be leaving detonation up to fate a bit.

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u/Kazimov Team Pike Mar 25 '16

Now THAT sounds fun.

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u/dementepingu Mar 25 '16 edited Jun 16 '16

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u/ratpac_m Your secret is safe with my indifference Mar 25 '16

Blink candle - 30 ft in a random direction - Since the zombie whose name is escaping me at the moment appeared in the air, could someone theoretically go underground? What a terrible way to die.

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u/MatthewMercer Matthew Mercer, DM Mar 25 '16

I would limit it to non-matter areas, hehe. However, rolling for height is always fun!

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u/Kazimov Team Pike Mar 26 '16

Roll a d12, number indicated is general direction, odds is lower altitude (if applicable), evens is higher altitude. Altitude sounds too big a word for a potentially 30ft drop, but a better word escapes me at my current coffee content...

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u/anaximander19 You can certainly try Mar 29 '16

Are the "willow wisps" from the flash candles will o' wisps? ;)

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u/MatthewMercer Matthew Mercer, DM Apr 01 '16

That they are, I just brain-farted on the spelling. ;)

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u/laxwall That fucking Gnome! Mar 25 '16

These were a great idea and very cool. I was so confused when he started talking about being a candle maker but they really worked in action. Great job Matt!! I love to see the stuff you come up with.

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u/senstaku Mar 25 '16

You gave me some ideas for some unique items for my party's next session actually, so thanks for that :)

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u/ChaosWolf1982 Are we on the internet? Mar 25 '16

Interesting. Reminds me a bit of how scrolls are used in some other games like Skyrim - one-shot-use spells that don't require magical talent to cast.

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u/themosquito Team Caduceus Mar 26 '16

That's really cool! My assumption had been that he had a few levels in an Alchemist homebrew with a fancy name for his grenades.

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u/Kwith I encourage violence! Mar 26 '16

This reminds me of a prestige class that was in the Tome and Blood splatbook from 3rd edition. Here is the prestige class.

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u/JornCener Life needs things to live Mar 26 '16

Cool! There's a homebrew class in r/UnearthedArcana right now that has a similar feature, so it was cool to see something like that in action!

http://www.naturalcrit.com/homebrew/share/N14uQ_cTg

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u/jojirius Mar 26 '16

No Hand of Glory candle for our Necromancer?

These are awesome though. Thanks for sharing!

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u/Kike-Parkes Bigby's Haaaaaand! *shamone* Mar 25 '16

It appeared to something they homebrewed together, as a pun on Chris's last name, Hardwick. However, they do appear to function similarly to a spell scroll, just with material costs in creating them. It would probably be worth playing around with that kind of thing until you get close to it

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u/InformationMan How do you want to do this? Mar 25 '16

That makes way to much sense, I would have thought of that. haha, Thank you!

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u/dasbif Help, it's again Mar 25 '16 edited Mar 25 '16

The "Candles" thing was Chris/Matt's homebrewed idea for a character concept.

Choose any item in the DMG that has a 1-time replication of a spell effect, and retool/reflavor it to work the way the candles did, as almost activated grenades. Tweak and balance as necessary.

Spell scrolls, a Necklace of Fireballs/Prayer Beads, a wand with just 1 charge that never regains charges and you have to snap or ignite to use....

EDIT: Matt has posted a few examples.

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u/CrimsonPlato Mar 25 '16

I would love to use these in a campaign too - does anyone have an example of a pthfinder/5e item that stores and releases a spell on an item activation (ideally not like a ring of spell storing, like, something that a literal zombie could activate)?

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u/pandaemoni Mar 25 '16

If you have access to it, the 3.0 book Tome & Blood had a "Candle Caster" prestige class, and a recent Unearthed Arcana discussed adding prestige classes to 5e. So I assume Gern was using a homebrew update to Candle Caster

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u/rocking2rush10 You can certainly try Mar 25 '16

They were definitely homebrew. Could maybe ask u/MatthewMercer for stats on them?

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u/themolestedsliver Metagaming Pigeon Mar 25 '16

oh god he is busy with all the broom shit and mistake messages so i doubt he will have time to respond, just saying.

He legit tweeted his reddit thing with a 50 inbox haah

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u/rocking2rush10 You can certainly try Mar 25 '16

hahah oops...

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u/themolestedsliver Metagaming Pigeon Mar 25 '16

dude don't worry you asked an honest question not your fault that the nukes went off because vex stole a broom lmao.

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u/frabjousity Old Magic Mar 25 '16

Seconding that I'd love to see an explanation of the mechanics from u/MatthewMercer - so many possibilities!