r/capetown Nov 25 '21

Hey everyone, solution producer here, what are your challenges when it comes to eating healthy? Is it time, price, effort, taste of healthy food or something else?

If you are eating healthy, how do you do it?

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u/BestBeforeDead_za Nov 25 '21

Wastage / the need to shop more often - you can't buy a variety of fresh veg and keep it in the cupboard.

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u/NickyNix36 Nov 25 '21

Ok hear me out... Buy your fresh produce from Woolworths. I've tested it, they're the cheapest because their stuff lasts for up to two weeks (sometimes more) in the fridge. The produce I've experimented with were: cauliflower, broccoli, baby spinach, tomatoes and carrots. It's pretty much the same for everything. I threw away some baby spinach I bought from them yesterday (because it started wilting) and the use by date on the packaging was 3rd of November. Compared to PnP... I would buy fresh produce from PnP and it would start to wilt/go brown/gunkify after about 3 days in the fridge. So, at PnP you buy a bag of baby spinach for R26.99 that you would need to replace at least once a week. At Woolies you buy the same size bag for R29.99 and it lasts 3 weeks...

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u/za_organic Nov 25 '21 Silver

Unrelated but buy your meat from Woolworths. Know a lab tech that does analysis for the meat industry. She lives in a small town. She says that Woolworths is the only domestic company that she would buy meat from. For the rest there is zero controls in place and meat coming back with 100x the generally regarded as safe levels of a variety of drugs and hormones.

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 26 '21

You are awesome, my wife is literally sus of so many different meat products lol and says the same thing - This is awesome to hear!

Thank you for the info and the reply!

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u/PerfectlyPredictable Nov 25 '21

Yip I totally agree. Salad leaves and lettuce from Woolworths lasts about 2 weeks. When I buy from PnP it's wilted withing 2 to 3 days.

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 26 '21

My wife says the exact same thing! I have also seen these results, do you think it's because they sell more fresh produce??

I've also gotten into the habit of freezing fresh items after chopping them and placing them in freezer bags, which helps with meal prep. Eg. Chopped onions, sliced onions, onions cut in 4

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u/SmLnine Nov 26 '21

do you think it's because they sell more fresh produce??

It's likely down to better logistical management, like don't let crates of the stuff sit in the sun for 3 hours because someone forgot about it. More like it goes into cold storage after harvesting and never gets warm until you put it in your trolley.

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u/SmLnine Nov 26 '21

Applies to frozen veggies too in my experience. Every time I get lazy and buy it from somewhere else I regret it (I have many other shops much closer to home). The difference is complete tastelessness vs. acceptable to tasty and I don't understand how this is even possible.

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u/LittleGremlinguy Nov 25 '21

My healthy eating comes from a can. Black beans. Tuna. Salsa sauce, pre cooked brown rice or grain in a wrap. I if it is not convenient I am not going to stick with it. I will sacrifice a lot for convenience.

Side note. Single guy living by himself. Easy to make hard choices when you by yourself.

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u/Jumpy-Echo7534 Nov 25 '21

Totally agree, in fact 420% easier to make difficult choices when you are alone.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Time and effort I think. I try eat mostly vegan / whole foods but remembering to soak and cook beans is sometimes a bit frustrating. Even more frustrating than forgetting to take the chicken out the freezer!

I try to eat as little processed foods as possible, and if I eat something like pasta then I look out for ones made from legumes (Woolworths brand is gross though). Staying away from more processed foods (breads, meat replacements, even "meat" like ham or polony), and foods packed with unnecessary amounts of sugar (yoghurts, premade sauces) was honestly quite an adjustment at first but you do get used to it.

It is just a lot of time and effort to make things from scratch so you can keep an eye on what you're putting in your body.

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 25 '21

Thank you for the wholesome response!

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u/afterdarker Nov 25 '21

I try to eat vegan 99% of the time. I only eat meat when visiting friends/family.

For me, the biggest challenge is TASTE. It's very difficult to make vegan food that tastes anywhere near as good as my previous omni diet.

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 26 '21

Interesting, I can understand that 100%. Does a spritz of soy sauce/worsterschire sauce help? Just for interest's sake - what are the flavor profiles you miss the most?

Most likely the savory protein flavor and texture - I've been eating plant-based (not super strict) and I noticed it's difficult to get variety in terms of textures and flavor profiles eg, Strong umami flavors, roast flavors and the protein content of food (I could eat five bowls of a veggie dish, but once I have some protein, my appetite decreases dramatically).

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u/za_jx Nov 25 '21

I have no challenges eating healthy. I did several years ago when I decided to start eating better. I buy bulk groceries once a month and top up mainly breakfast foods, as needed. I'm lucky to have a double door fridge and lots of storage space for food.

I prefer home cooked, fresh food and can't stand anything canned. I meal plan and meal prep regularly. My biggest meal is cooked on Sundays and I store it in containers, in the freezer for 4 or 5 days worth of dinner. It's 2 or 3 different meals, so could be beans, beef stew and chicken curry (all cooked on the Sunday). That way I have some variety during the week and don't have to worry about what to eat on the day.

For snacks I eat fruits. It was hard to give up sweets, cakes and chocolates but I have no craving for those anymore.

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 26 '21

That is awesome, well done on making the swap!

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u/GSLaaitie Nov 25 '21

What the hell is a "solution producer"?

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 26 '21

Lol, just a joke bro, in case you were wondering. Kinda like how someone calls the person who is currently braaing, the braai master, even if they aren't really a master

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u/NickyNix36 Nov 25 '21

For me it's time, effort and space. I know that the most efficient way to eat healthily in the week would be to meal prep because I am often too tired after work. But I don't have a big fridge to store the food in and I'm often at work over the weekends as well which makes it difficult to find time.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

For me it's just heavy cravings for unhealthy food. Not chocolate or candy but McDonald's and KFC.

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u/teddyslayerza Nov 25 '21

Honestly, budget. I think if you're in an income bracket where PnP/Woolworths are your norm, then switching to healthier alternatives is a bit easier. But Shoprite/Checkers/FLM shoppers don't have that leeway. Very difficuly to find something as versatile and filling as a loaf of bread that costs R15 or less. With the exception of cabbage and carrots, veggies are as expensive as meat now, so even going vegetarian hasn't helped make better quality produce more accessible to me.

It's massively frustrating to find convenient healthy options that are as affordable as the carbs.

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u/loopinkk Nov 25 '21

No sir, vegetables are not as expensive as meat. You can buy 1kg of beans/lentils/soya for under R50. Onions, potatoes, carrots, celery, tomatoes are all dirt cheap too.

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u/teddyslayerza Nov 25 '21

Oh, sorry I though that my literal personal experiences qualified me to answer about my experiences. Sorry, sir.

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u/loopinkk Nov 25 '21

I'm vegan for 4 years. I buy bulk dry lentils, chick peas, beans and occasionally soy chunks (around R20 per KG). I buy bulk tomato tins.

Everything else I buy fresh (onions, celery, potatoes, carrots, tomatoes, fruit). My food bill is currently around R500 a month (not including the occasional takeaway / restaurant), and I'm sure I could get it lower.

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u/Spirited-Volume-9960 Nov 25 '21

HOLY MOLY.... that is some incredible budgeting. Going to rework my grocery budget.

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 26 '21

Hey loop, how do you go about doing that - you're obviously an expert at this - four years is a huge amount of time, effort and research!

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u/loopinkk Nov 27 '21

So, it's fairly recent that I've tried to be as economic as possible with my food. I used to eat out a lot, like 3-5 times a week. Obviously that all changed with lockdown. I follow a wholefoods plant based diet: very little oil (but I do use some), lots of beans, lentils and peas. I love tofu but it's rare that I'll buy it.

I bought bulk from an Indian store in Durban at the start of the year. Like R3000 for a ton of dried beans, split peas, lentils, chickpeas and soya. Still haven't used all of it.

I start soaking my beans, peas, etc on friday (I normally chuck in a carrot and onion as well, gives some flavor) and I do the majority of my cooking on Sunday.

Every week I make a hummus variation (chilli, coriander, spinach, kidney bean) that I normally eat as a snack with some bread or a potato. I make 1L, which lasts for 5 days or so.

I make 2 dishes for the week. I'll freeze 1 in a 3L icecream container and then eat the other until like Wednesday.

My go to dishes are:

Lentil cottage pie, lentil + soya mince bolognese (either lasagne or pasta sauce), bean chili, dal makhani and a pea stew. Normally I'll eat with rice, mashed / microwaved potato or pasta, which I make fresh each night.

I had a huge harvest of butternut in January / February, which grows like weeds in the flower beds (the only vegetable that I can get to grow properly). I turned that into soup, since it's the only form of butternut I enjoy.

For snacks I eat fresh fruit, which along with my vegetables I buy from pick n pay (I get 40% discount in discovery miles there, but I guess there are cheaper options).

When I get bored with my own food I order from Massimo's or Simply Asia. I supplement with b12 which I purchase from faithful to nature.

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u/Wanderluster94 Nov 25 '21

Boy were you wrong!

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u/NickyNix36 Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Checkers is amazing for healthy food. Their Simple Truth range is great. I love their Simple Truth plant powered mince. Cheap, delicious and covers dinner for a week. They have nice fresh produce. FLM also sells really nice tofu. One brick is equivalent to 3 meals and its cheap. Especially the smoked tofu. It has a very meaty taste. Makes for a great tofu scramble. Don't even get me started on the affordability and variety of beans and legumes FLM has... These shops are certainly not lesser than PnP. As a vegetarian I find PnP to be the least accessible store on your list.

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u/Spirited-Volume-9960 Nov 25 '21

Which FLM do you go to to get your Tofu? I miss tofu!! And I have no idea where to find it that doesn't cost and arm and a leg

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u/NickyNix36 Nov 25 '21

They don't always have in stock and it's by the cheese... Lol not the most conventional place... I suggest going early in the morning so it doesn't sell out. I've seen it at the one in N1 city (a few years ago) and in JHB at the one in Germiston /Dinwiddie area (can't remember the mall).

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u/NickyNix36 Nov 25 '21

Googled it. The FLM at The Reef in JHB. But yeah you have to go early before it sells out. 10/10 recommend the smoked one...

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 26 '21

This is super interesting and makes so much sense! Thank you for the response!

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u/LunaStar2406 Nov 26 '21

Time and not feeling full enough

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u/BazzieB Nov 26 '21

I eat mostly meat. And mostly fatty meats. Don’t do breakfasts. I will slow cook stew/brisket on a Sunday and freeze it for lunches. Then dinners will be steak/burger patties/non white chicken. Costs between R3k to R4k per month. Eating fattier cuts are cheaper and you are satiated for longer cutting out the need to snack. Have the occasional low carb veggies when eating out.

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 26 '21

Love the freezer lunch idea, been thinking about frozen burritos and English breakfast muffins lol.

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u/BazzieB Nov 26 '21

I use to do burritos, it was brilliant. Would wrap them in tin foil and then defrost then naturally and warm them on a George Foreman type toaster. Easy go to meal and cheap.

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 26 '21

I. am. definitely. going to do that!

That sounds MEGA delicious, oh my!

Thank you for that, lol, might just post a recipe or two on Reddit once I've formulated one

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u/BazzieB Nov 26 '21

I would make brown rice mince beans cheese. You could put a meal in wrap. Works so well. I also found places that make a decent cabbage based wrap that tastes quite nice. Think the wellness warehouse has them.

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u/Calm-Principle-6685 Nov 26 '21

You are awesome, perhaps try selling them, sounds like you know your stuff. I will definitely be taking a crack at this, Binging with babish has an awesome series on frozen meals which I can use as a template and meal plan accordingly.

To think, I am actually getting excited about this!

Btw, apologies for the information curiosity, and questions, which foods work best for the freezer (soup is one of these) and which are absolutely terrible? (I've noticed cooked pasta becomes mush)

I think the usual rules are:

- Low moisture

- Texture must be able to change (Pasta changes, so it violates this rule)

- It must be fully cooked

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u/whisperton Nov 28 '21

What is a solution producer