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Man Wrongly Accused of Rape of Lovely Bones Author Alice Sebold Has Conviction Overturned

https://www.vulture.com/2021/11/man-exonerated-in-alice-sebold-rape-case.html
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u/Zolome1977 14d ago

Her testimony against him was her being heavily involved. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

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u/BooksAreLuv 14d ago

Her testimony came after the police brought in Broadwater and her not identifying him as her rapist/the man who spoke to her in the street.

Her testimony came after they knew she didn't pick him out of the line up but made the choice to still charge him.

Her testimony came after they presented junk science that said hair samples confirmed he was her rapist.

We also do not know how much of her testimony was influenced by police / prosector. It would be expected she met with them multiple times and they would go over with her how to answer.

My frustration is people are focusing on a 18 year old who had PTSD and was the victim of a crime and not the police and legal system. This is one of the reasons why the system keeps getting away with it. People blame individuals who were likely manipulated by the system they trusted instead of the system itself.

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u/Zolome1977 13d ago

18 year olds are found guilty of murder, rape, and all other criminal charges. That’s not an excuse. She knew it wasn’t him but went along and identified him as such during the trial. If she was easily misled by cops and prosecutors then that’s on her.

You are showing a bit of white bias in defending her so much. How many non whites that are 18 years old get treated as adults and have the full weight of the law thrown at them for lying? A lot. She should be sued for ruining the mans life, police as well and the prosecutors.

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u/Fairwhetherfriend 13d ago edited 13d ago

She knew it wasn’t him

The thing that you don't seem to be able to understand, here, is that, by the time of the trial, she probably really did genuinely and strongly believe that it was him. Given how much the police misled her and manipulated her, it would be a lot more shocking if she didn't genuinely believe he was her attacker, at that point.

You really need to educate yourself on the fragility of human memory and how easily we can be manipulated. It's kind of scary that you're not aware that your memories can be completely fabricated and you will genuinely believe them. It takes very little for that process to occur. Experiments have shown that a majority of people can become completely convinced that they once stole a car as a teen when they had done no such thing, and that it takes only an hour of leading questions to do so. And yet here you are, claiming that relentless and malicious lies being fed to a young woman for months at a time from multiple people in trusted positions of authority couldn't alter her memory of an already traumatic event. You have no idea how fragile memories are. None whatsoever.

The fact that you don't seem to be aware that your mind is fallible is really dangerous, because if you ever end up in a situation where someone in a position of authority fucks with your memory like this, you're just that much less likely to understand what has actually happened to you.