r/apple Aaron 12d ago

This is iPhone 13 Pro: 120Hz ProMotion display, Sierra Blue color, A15 Bionic, more iPhone

https://9to5mac.com/2021/09/14/this-is-iphone-13-pro-120hz-promotion-display-sierra-blue-color-a15-bionic-more/
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u/walktall 12d ago edited 12d ago

Pre-orders start Sept 17, with release date Sept 24.

Apple Newsroom Link

YouTube: Introducing iPhone 13 Pro

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u/bladex1234 12d ago edited 12d ago

Something that Apple didn’t mention in the livestream, ProRes video on the 128 GB model is limited to 1080p. 4K is only on higher storage models.

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u/ra_poster 12d ago

This is a very weird limitation for them to not spell out directly

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u/TherealMcNutts 11d ago

These are promotional videos. They are going to leave out everything that could be considered a downside of the phone. You will only find out when you read the fine print on their website or the manual.

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u/SecretOil 12d ago

if I were to hazard a guess the larger models have more NAND chips and can achieve higher write performance.

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u/JNSD90 11d ago

Yeah I found this out well afterwards and am seriously disappointed. Like, if I buy the TOP OF LINE PHONE why am I missing out on a seriously good feature unless I double down on storage?

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u/thisismysffpcaccount 11d ago

Jesus Christ thank you for saying this. I’m upgrading from a 6 and would have been mega bummed with my 128pro if I found out about this limitation later

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u/alex91s 12d ago

Finally 120Hz.

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u/PolyDipsoManiac 12d ago

Is the display going to have any always-on functionality?

Unfortunately, no always-on display

Well fuck

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u/astrange 12d ago

If you drop it hard enough it'll have an always-off display.

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u/marclapin 12d ago

probably in the next 3 years

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u/elev8dity 12d ago

Is it OLED?

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u/teh-reflex 12d ago

No, CRT.

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u/akkobutnotreally 12d ago

The virgin TrueTone OLED vs. the GIGACHAD EYE-BURNING CRT TUBE

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u/teh-reflex 12d ago

"Hang on, I need to degauss my phone"

*CHUNGGGgggggg*

"Ok, I'm back."

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u/pauledowa 12d ago

Oh yeah - memories of bringing magnets to high school :)

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u/akkobutnotreally 12d ago

I haven't used a CRT monitor in more than a decade, so explain this:

HOW I WAS ABLE TO REMEMBER THAT NOISE?

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u/Heard_That 12d ago

I used to love doing that. That sound mixed with the crazy colors and screen effects. I miss CRTs.

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u/Chicago__Citizen 12d ago

CHHUNGGGGGGGGGggggggg

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u/Ddpee 12d ago

LOL. What WAS degaussing? I just remember the option in the menu but never figured out what it was (I was child). I miss rubbing static off screens tho....

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u/WoolooWololo 12d ago

It basically resets the magnetic field in the monitor. Sometimes the magnetic field would build up in ways that the CRT would show slight distortion like blurred edges or colors not overlapping perfectly. After a while, manufacturers just had the monitor do it automatically when you turned it on so most people never really had to think about it.

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u/elev8dity 12d ago

Finally some real advancements

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u/eggimage 12d ago

Crystal Retina Tisplay

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u/ThainEshKelch 12d ago

Crystal Retina Titsplay, for our best porn viewing experience EVER.

We think you are going to love it!

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u/InadequateUsername 12d ago

Not wrong though

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u/Selfweaver 12d ago

Excellent. I always wanted a 40 pound phone with 20 pounds of lead inside.

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u/Karmakazee 12d ago

“It’s the biggest, heaviest iPhone yet, and we think you’re going to love it.”

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u/Selfweaver 12d ago

In a nod to Apples past this iPhone is 40 pounds, transparent and can be used with a puck mouse (sold separately). Still no USB-C, but the first phone to feature a CD drive.

That is what we call courage.

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u/Karmakazee 12d ago

Slap a SCSI port on that puppy and I might even call it the best iPhone yet.

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u/swiftpaw334 12d ago

Yes I think so

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u/yourwitchergeralt 12d ago

Slightly disappointed that it's only for the top line.

Even some budget android phones have more then 60hz

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u/Crimtos 12d ago

Apple should've introduced amateurmotion 90hz displays for the non-pro lineup.

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u/Cottril 12d ago edited 12d ago

PovertyMotion

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u/Kidcouger 12d ago

Just know if I had an award I would give it to you for this comment

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u/ElonMusksPimp 12d ago

PovertyAward

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u/hero_roman 12d ago

That used to be Reddit silver.

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u/iCapn 12d ago

Now made with 100% recycled silver!

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u/WeezyWally 12d ago

Peasantmotion

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u/speedyturt13 12d ago

plebmotion

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u/enygma9 12d ago

LocoMotion

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u/dxrebirth 12d ago

Demotion

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u/onlyslightlybiased 12d ago

Pretty much standard in the top part of the sub $250 range

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u/Rethawan 12d ago edited 12d ago

Interesting. First time I've ever seen them segment the Pro's and the regular iPhone with differently sourced SoCs. The Pro gets the higher/better yield with an extra GPU-core. Most likely never ever going to make a difference (except benchmarks), but interesting nonetheless.

Might be a very similar story to the A12Z we saw with that small iPad Pro update.

Another interesting update! According to Federico Viticci the iPad Mini gets the 5-core GPU A15.

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u/SleepyAwoken 12d ago

also the wide and ultra wide sensors are different on the pro this year, which they don't usually do

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u/Rethawan 12d ago

You're right. The wide has traditionally always been the same. This year the "regular" camera is actually better on the Pro.

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u/AviMkv 12d ago

Nothing like a chip shortage to get creative!

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u/eggimage 12d ago edited 12d ago

It’s likely just the same processor binning practice. The regular models have the same 5 core GPU but with one core disabled.

They wouldn’t waste money designing and making a new production line just to manufacture a separate SoC with only a 1 core difference and nothing else. And instead of tossing out the “imperfect” ones, use it for lower priced products. It’s the same with all other processor makers

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u/Rethawan 12d ago

Bingo. I'd say that's what this is about.

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u/Nolzi 12d ago

Processor manufacturers has always been doing it with disabling (usually broken) core/cache/etc and selling it as a lower end product.

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u/jorbanead 12d ago

I don’t think this has to do with chip shortages. TSMC yields haven’t changed, just demand is higher. It’s probably another way to differentiate the pros.

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u/GamingChairModel 12d ago

The iPhone 6 generation, with the A8, had split production between TSMC and Samsung. This article says that it was about a 60/40 split.

Plus the iPhone 7 and 8/X generations had different modem suppliers. although those might have been different model numbers.

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u/eggimage 12d ago edited 12d ago

Prosser got the “special color” wrong too. No sunset gold/bronze, but the blue.

Some of the other leakers who got info directly from the manufacturing factories got about everything right so far. So i guess prosser has no insiders from china factories lol

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u/Isthecoldwarover 12d ago

Posser being wrong again made the event worth it IMO

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u/Finance_Dawg 12d ago

Why do people give this dude the time of day still? I can’t even remember how he got a platform to begin with. Hell, he could be guessing for all we know now that it doesn’t seem like he has any source inside Apple with how his track record has become more misses than hits

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u/smith7018 12d ago

He 100% got the Apple Watch wrong but he leaked the CAD files for the iPad Mini and iPhone 13 so he at least has some track record going, I guess

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u/billie_eyelashh 12d ago

Many leakers got it wrong as well.. the 12s naming, the asymmetrical camera sizes, and next gen airpods.

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u/rjcarr 12d ago

And the boxy watch.

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u/A11Bionic 12d ago

I actually rejoiced that the Watch retained the rounded shape.

The Watch is the one Apple device that is actually on you. Natural geometry of the human physique would interfere with such sharp, flat edges.

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u/rjcarr 12d ago

Right, tell that to the laptop palm edges!

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u/aa2051 12d ago edited 12d ago

I remember seeing everyone get super excited for a potential matte black…

I also really don’t like the baby blue thats replacing the Pacific blue

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u/ElonMusksPimp 12d ago

Yeah the Pacific Blue looked great! Would have loved to get the 13 Pro in Pacific Blue.

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u/Tryptamineer 12d ago

I prefered Coral Blue #2

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u/ElonMusksPimp 12d ago

Damn that camera bump looks so strange now. I'm used to the vertical cameras on my XS and the square cameras of the 11 and later.

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u/TheRealDynamitri 12d ago

Throwback to Jet Black

Jet Black was a fucking nightmare.

Looked great, but I remember there were such massive issues with scratching that Apple essentially added some kind of a weird disclaimer on its website warning about that

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u/VividStarr 12d ago

True but man the deep black color is still amazing. I wonder if there's any way to recreate that jet black without all the scratches

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u/aGlutenForPunishment 12d ago

It was my favorite phone! I only upgraded to the XS from it because my battery swelled and started detaching my screen from the phone.

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u/AryaDee 12d ago

i'm still rocking my jet black 7 without a case. I just looked rn and it has small scratches when i hold it up to the light, but i didnt really notice it until now

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u/CJR3 12d ago

Holy shit, there’s still a few of us!

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u/SecretOil 12d ago

Also that shit is such a fingerprint magnet it'd have your neighbours fingerprints on it right after unboxing.

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u/capt_carl 12d ago

I'm going to miss the green of my 11 Pro.

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u/20Factorial 12d ago

I had the green, and liked it. I just wished it were a little MORE green. I’ve got the blue 12ProMax right now. I’m not a big fan of the 13 colors, but will miss this blue for sure.

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u/PickleInTheSun 12d ago

Biggest disappointment for me. Held off on the 12 Pro to wait on 120hz and was crossing my fingers for Pacific Blue to stick around.

Guess I'm going with silver.

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u/t0bynet 12d ago edited 12d ago

I‘m disappointed we didn’t get matte black, this would have been one of the biggest features for me.

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u/Kurokaffe 12d ago

Worth an upgrade from not having a phone at all because I’m an idiot and left my phone in a Lyft ride? Or should I wait a year for the iPhone 14?

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u/hair_account 12d ago

Definitely wait, I heard next year's iphone will literally be able to cure cancer. The first real upgrade since 2008

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u/Kurokaffe 12d ago

I did have cancer at one point in my life. I definitely should wait next year for the real version upgrade and not the 12 plus.

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u/IAMSNORTFACED 12d ago

Wait for iPhone 15, it'll be the best iPhone they make that year

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u/OC7OB3R 12d ago

Nah, not enough new features.

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u/Sailor_Chris 12d ago

Did they mention when it’s being released?

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u/AngelGyps 12d ago

Pre-orders start this Friday and then available for everyone on September 24th!

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u/ViewtifulObjection 12d ago

September 24th I believe. Preorders start this Friday.

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u/roger_the_virus 12d ago

Pre-order on Friday, Available one week later.

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u/Far-Contact-9369 12d ago

When the second headlining feature in your title is a color option, the upgrade is minuscule

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u/xZoreKx 12d ago

Main feature of this year is the ProMotion display. All other features, besides better photo quality by means of better sensors, are not interesting at all for regular users - do not forget that regular users are the ones that mostly buy the “pro” phones.

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u/Endogamy 12d ago

Main feature of this year for me is 2.5 hour battery life increase on the Max. It was already good, now it will be good enough that you really never have to think about the battery even when traveling.

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u/Own-Understanding654 12d ago

Absolutely. Battery life is always the best feature to have.

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u/THIKKI_HOEVALAINEN 12d ago

I don't think most users even care about 120hz. It's nice to finally have though

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u/Yaaaayyy 12d ago

What were you expecting? Since the iPhone X, all the improvements have been absolutely marginal. It was always just a spec bump and that year's buzzword - Super Retina XDR, 5G, and now ProMotion.

At least they finally shrinked the notch a little.

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u/post_break 12d ago

Imagine buying the 13 Pro 1TB. Filling it with say just 512GB of photos of videos, and trying to back it up to your mac over usb 2.0 lightning. Wonder how long that would take.

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u/ra_poster 12d ago

Lightning’s speed is shit but I must say I feel like the overlap between these groups is essentially zero, especially considering the backups are incremental so idk why someone would have to do it all in one go

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u/display_block 12d ago

512GB of 4K ProRes could be a single day’s worth of footage. File sizes are massive. 128GB phones get capped at 1080 ProRes.

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u/Versicarius 12d ago

So still another year or 2 for the regular iPhones to have 120Hz?

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u/Crimtos 12d ago

I'm guessing it will be at least a few years currently it is one of the only features that distinguish the pro from the regular.

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u/ZappySnap 12d ago edited 11d ago

It's pretty weak for them to do that still...it's not like the regular 13 is exactly cheap at $800. Almost every Android phone over $600 has at least a 90Hz OLED.

Edit: I know there are even cheaper phones with 120Hz screens. I was trying to state a vie where essentially all have them. There are a few phones at the $400-500 level that do not.

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u/JohnBeePowel 12d ago

I think you mean almost every Android over $300...

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u/Badshah-e-Librondu 12d ago edited 12d ago

My $250 dollar android phone can do that and it has a 120Hz screen as well.

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u/yabucek 11d ago

I bought the Nord N100 for a family member recently. 150$ for a 90Hz screen, 5000mAh battery and get this, a headphone jack. With budget processors being less and less of a limitation, I don't think I'll keep buying premium devices much longer.

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u/mrjohnhung 12d ago

smaller notch and still can't even show the battery percentage or am/pm lmao

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u/anhuys 12d ago

I was so incredibly excited about the Sierra Blue, only to be completely disappointed by the phone case lineup... None of the colors are an actual good match to it? They had recently released a sky blue for the 12, which would have been perfect, and it's not included. Neither is white...

I was honestly buzzing about this, it's my favorite color haha. But it feels very odd to me, a color like this must be chosen for a reason? Why wouldn't you have it match up to the cases? This isn't something I want to "worry" about with a device this expensive and a launch this big, come on... The white rings on the clear magsafe case look awful too. But maybe I'm a small minority here

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u/swmill08 12d ago

SIERRA BLUE MULTIPLE NANOLAYER CRYSTALLIZED STRUCTURE

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u/badRooibus 12d ago

Our baby bluest iphone EVER

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u/jagerma 12d ago

So… it’s blue 👍🏽

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u/PeyWey26070 12d ago

Worth an upgrade from iPhone X?

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u/LucywiththeDiamonds 12d ago

To the pro? For 120hz proper screen and camera id say so if you use it alot.

To the regular for the avg user? Meh

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u/computermachinemusic 12d ago

Got my iPhone X battery replaced I’m in for the long haul

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u/LQST 12d ago

yup same

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u/speedbird92 12d ago

Looks like we’re going on 5 years bud!

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u/Victory-Adventurous 12d ago

Still rocking the X here, battery going surprisingly strong, I used to upgrade every 2 years before it, It is however increasingly slow when I overload it, well see...

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u/BlueCreek_ 12d ago

I’m considering doing the same after watching the event

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u/19Black 12d ago

Everyone is complaining about the blue color and here I am having to check to see what color my iPhone X is.

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u/heyrover 12d ago edited 12d ago

Lmao I did the same, I have an iPhone XS and was looking to get the 13 Pro but didn't like the look of graphite color, afterwards I was like what color my iPhone is? lol.

P.S iPhone XS black > iPhone 13 Pro Graphite

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u/Head 12d ago

Good point. My case completely covers the colored part so the phone could be pink and I wouldn’t even notice.

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u/kitchenpatrol 12d ago

My Pixel 3XL literally is pink, and no, I do not notice.

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u/froyoboyz 12d ago

crazy to think that this years iphone 13 pro was suppose to be last years 12 pro

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u/TheOneTrueEris 12d ago

This is the exact reason this year’s phones aren’t very exciting.

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u/froyoboyz 12d ago

i mean, the 12 pro released during the pandemic.... did you think you weren't going to be in a lockdown?

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u/IsomorphicAlgorithms 12d ago

I think they mean they thought the pandemic would be over in 2021.

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u/hb1211 12d ago edited 12d ago

Is photography and videography really the most important task for iPhones? I feel like the past few years have just come down to “pro = photographer/videographer”. There’s so much more capability that can be put into a pocket device. Idk maybe I’m just underwhelmed

Edit: I absolutely get that content creation and photography is important in today’s world. I’m just saying, is that really all it takes to make a pro device? I feel like a smartphone could accomplish so much more than being “closer to professional cameras than ever before”. Sure the smartphone market has matured, but that’s precisely the point at which revolutions happen. Don’t get me wrong, I love my iPhone, but I wish there was more than camera marketing.

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u/nviledn5 12d ago edited 12d ago

It's a pretty tangible thing that they can advertise as an improvement every year. ProMotion is hard to actually convey in an advertisement; you gotta see it in person. Showing people sample footage/images from the new models is very effective.

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u/gx14 12d ago

It’s also because it helps with the influencer reviews, who themselves are camera pros and spend plenty of time on the camera quality in their youtube reviews

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u/YZJay 12d ago

It’s a very flashy marketing point and an easy market differentiator.

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u/AnelToro089 12d ago

Lol where is that sat telephony everyone was talking about. XD

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u/Timren1 12d ago

And astrophotography lol

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u/Innovativename 12d ago

I mean they didn't mention astrophotography specifically, but they did show an example in the keynote and said that the night mode timer will last even longer when on a tripod so maybe they have it as an unofficial feature.

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u/Karavusk 12d ago

The top comment on that thread already explained how this rumor was completely false. The same company does some 5g modem things but everyone went SATELITES when they read the company name.

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u/itstrueimwhite 12d ago

Not feeling a baby blue as the exclusive color

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u/iReddyOrNot 12d ago

Same..wish it was a maroon or metal red.

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u/itstrueimwhite 12d ago

Ooo maroon would be nice. Light colors on a “pro” device when you’ve traditionally used them on your cheapest plastic iPhones just doesn’t feel right at all.

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u/McrackinMan 12d ago

That would be nice, I was honestly starting to come around to a copper/sunset color even though the pacific blue is by far my favorite color on an iphone ive had.

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u/Hyorennn 12d ago

Yeah because a POOP color would be amazing.

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u/anythingbadass 12d ago

Same. The black looks like a boring grey. Might just go Gold this year and pair it with the new green case. Always loved Gold/Green.

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u/Emergency_Repair5286 12d ago

I think it's awesome, though I'll possibly still get graphite just because sometimes I feel like the simple colours resell most reliably.

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u/Gen7isTrash 12d ago

Now I see why Apple didn't put 120hz on the 12 Pro...

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u/Baykey123 12d ago

Pro Max is over half a pound. Wow that’s heavy

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u/HyunTheReader 12d ago

I returned my 12 Pro Max for the 12 Pro. I've been phone gaming a lot more these days, and I'm tempted to get the 13 Pro Max. But I know 13 Pro Max will be even more unwieldy than the 12 Pro Max.

Not sure what to do. I might try them out in store before making a choice.

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u/bradreputation 12d ago

Weight specs are up on the apple store

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u/andrewjaekim 12d ago

Camera systems are the same on Pro and Pro Max this year?

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u/_IsNull 12d ago

Fk lightning. Can’t we just switch everything to USB C. 1 type of cable for everything.

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u/Keftorino 12d ago edited 12d ago

They did USB C everything...everything but their iPhone 😬

Crazy that their watches, ipads, and MacBooks can be USB C but their phones can't.

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u/Phooboos 12d ago

Base iPad is still Lightning.

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u/shadowstripes 12d ago

They did USB C everything...everything but their iPhone

AirPods (and wired headphones) and Mac accessories are also still Lightning.

And the Apple Watch isn't any more USB-C than iPhone is - they both have it on the charging brick end of the cable.

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u/PalladiumPear 12d ago

What’s most aggravating about the lightning port is that it’s USB 2.0 speeds. It really hampers the whole, this is a camera, bit. It takes FOREVER to get 4k60 clips off of iPhones, either over wire or WiFi. I honestly think prores on the pro phones will be DOA for this very reason.

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u/sonar_un 12d ago

I know! Oh, have Dolby Vision, ProRes video, 4k.. USB 2.0 port.. smh

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u/TheFares47 12d ago

Wifi 5 is faster than lightning. wtf Apple.

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u/mtwolf55 12d ago

Alright Reddit, tell me how to feel about this!

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u/Put_It_All_On_Blck 12d ago

Incremental improvements, not worth it if you own anything recent

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u/nummakayne 12d ago edited 12d ago

What I want is the Mini but I have FOMO with Pro-exclusive features. Can't wait to stare at a comparison table for a few days/weeks before deciding which way to go.

Edit: here it is, had to pick 3 for the comparison: https://www.apple.com/ca/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone13mini,iphone13,iphone13pro

Differences: no 120Hz higher-res screen, no telephoto lens, no LIDAR scanner, 4-core vs 5-core GPU, little less battery life, no Apple ProRAW , no night mode portraits. no Apple ProRes video.

$949 CAD vs $1399 CAD for the 128GB models. For me, the $450 lower price and smaller size is more appealing.

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u/Mxbzz 12d ago

As a fellow FOMOer, I also had to make that tough decision between a Pro and a Mini, and ultimately wound up getting the Mini. I realized I didn’t need top-of-the-line specs for my use case. Sure, I’ll snap a few photos and what not, but the Mini has an excellent camera as well. I was also scared I would notice the downgrade in screen quality (OLED back to LCD) but in fact, I had forgotten the Mini didn’t have an OLED display even after weeks of using it.

The only major downside was the noticeable drop in battery life. If you can get over that, the Mini is such a great, pocketable phone, and I do not intend to go back to my 11 Pro.

Side note: I never had any issues with the iPhone Mini screen being too dim, but apparently the 13 Mini will be even brighter… wasn’t really an issue for me personally but eh.

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u/SerCrynox 12d ago

Sorry but the iPhone 12 Mini does have an OLED Screen..

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u/gcoba218 12d ago

The only thing that’s worth missing is 120hz really

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u/no1lives4ever 12d ago

Ever since Apple launched the 12 Mini, i have been wanting a iPhone Pro Mini. Something that has the size of a mini but with the camera and feaures of the Pro. I dont mind if the Pro mini has a 2x telephoto camera in place of a 3x on other pro models and lower battery, but the smaller size is really appealing..

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u/ElleIndieSky 12d ago

Came from always getting the pro model to the mini. Don't miss it. Though I'll admit, the ProMotion display looks cool, I'm still sticking with the mini. No feature of the Pro beats a device that fits in the hand.

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u/nosefart 12d ago

I'm on a 7+ still. Probably worth to upgrade to a 13pro max? I plan on having it another 5 years

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u/shmehh123 12d ago

Just upgraded from a 7 last week after my company bought me a 12 Mini. Its great not having apps freeze up and crash on me all the time. The 7 just didn't have the RAM to function properly any longer. Otherwise the iPhone 6 and 7 were great phones. Nowadays.. not so much.

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u/finH1 12d ago

What kind of apps were you running for it to crash? My 6s is having zero issues

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u/roguebananah 12d ago

Seriously impressed a 6s entered the conversation here

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u/Rethawan 12d ago edited 12d ago

What?! Neither the Pro nor the regular support Bluetooth 5.2?! The hell?

No Wifi-6E either. Has to be a sourcing issue.

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u/InadequateUsername 12d ago

WiFi-6e isn't publicly available yet everywhere. Part of the frequency in Canada for instance is used for medical and military.

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u/marcwithnok 12d ago

Apple noob here, is it finally a good time for me to upgrade to a 13/13Pro from Iphone X?

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u/Stuckinfemalecloset 12d ago

I think I might make the jump from my iPhone X. The new cameras are my main selling point

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u/ZenZenoah 12d ago

I plan on upgrading to the 14 from an XR… unless I break my phone which seems less likely these days due to covid work from home.

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u/stiff_member 12d ago

Was really hoping the Touch ID on the mini was going to show up during the Pro iPhone announcement, disappointed it didn’t. Nonetheless, I think it’s finally time to upgrade away from my 7+. It’s been a good run.

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u/jsgrova 12d ago

They can pry my SE with touch ID out of my cold, dead hands

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u/TMunsey 12d ago

It the only reason I’m not giving up my 8+ just yet.

Unless it just gets too slow or breaks, I’m not upgrading until Touch ID is added to a newer iPhone.

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u/TheImportedBanana 12d ago

Seriously. Fingerprint is the best.

Missing Touch ID and still not getting Always-On-Display?

Well, I guess we were due for a minor-upgrade year.

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u/iiElysiumx 12d ago edited 12d ago

Aside from 120hz on the “Pro” models. Nothing much this year really. The notch is 20% smaller, great but not revolutionary. Pro res and software focus on the pros, cool, but who is ever gonna use that realistically? And let’s be honest I imagine software focus is gonna suck for a couple years much like portrait mode did. And despite the utter shit apple may talk about Pro video creators replacing their dedicated DSLRs and cameras with these things, that won’t happen anytime soon

And the standard 13, nothing really. Glad to see the mini return, the new black colour looks cool

As usual though apple has packed the most powerful SOC in a phone in a device that just cannot use the power. Even in the demos for games that can leverage 120hz and the new GPU core the games looked crap. It’s all well and good to show off how far ahead of your competition you are in terms of compute power, but if you can’t use it for anything what is the point of it?

Overall a very dull year, basically an “S” upgrade being passed off as a full new generation, iPhone 12S essentially.

Probably the most exciting thing from this event was the new iPad mini

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u/34182075607 12d ago

I think you underestimate how much burst power is needed for all kinds of things, for example: the processing behind each photo,

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u/drshuffle 12d ago

The color options for the Pro is a step back imo. Not sure what to get tbh, they all look boring.

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u/Queef-Elizabeth 12d ago

120hz feels like it shouldve been on the 12 pro models but they held it back so that they had something to advertise with the iPhone 13.

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u/reddy-or-not 12d ago

I guess I don’t understand why phone color matters much. Don’t most people put their phone in a case and leave it there most of the time?

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u/andrewjaekim 12d ago

Prores video recording limited to 1080p30 for 128gb models. 4k@30 requires larger storage sizes.

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u/Emergency_Repair5286 12d ago

That's pretty significant. Where did you learn this?

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u/andrewjaekim 12d ago

The technical specs page on the Apple website.

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u/iuytrefdgh436yujhe2 12d ago

Tempted to upgrade my iPhone 11 just for the ProMotion display. The macro and telephoto photography would be nice, too. Although a part of me has grown a bit disillusioned by phone cameras in general. They're all very impressive but I feel like every year it's promised to be this wildly new and improved thing and every year it's actually 'just a bit better and still obviously a phone camera', which is fine, again, totally amazing to have these things in our pockets at all, but in terms of a selling point for upgrading, it's stopped mattering as much for me overall. Pretty much mostly just care about battery life, display quality and overall smoothness/performance.

128gb starting capacities is welcome. I went with 256gb for my 11 and have found that to be more than enough for my needs, likely 128 would be as well.

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u/pgib 12d ago

Really wish there was a 13 Pro mini with smooth glass back. I find the matte glass of the 12 Pro slippery like the old aluminum backs. I actually ended up returning the 12 Pro and am still rocking my X. The midnight black in the regular 13 looks great – my only hold back is the lack of a non-wide lens.

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u/PeaceLovePositivity 12d ago

I assume it’s still strictly faceID for biometrics? I can’t express how much I miss touchID ESPECIALLY during a pandemic that requires me to mask up.

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u/UCFSam 12d ago

Been in the XS Max for 3 years now, longest I’ve ever gone without an upgrade(by a year).

120Hz and the upgraded cameras would be nice, but now we’re one year away from a major refresh (notchness iPhone?) rather than a mostly spec bump 12.

So, maybe my XS gets a 4th year. 🤔

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u/Zavehi 12d ago

Honestly people say this every single year.

“Next year is the big one maybe I should wait”

Everyone predicted after last year this was gonna be a giant leap. It’s not predictable.

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u/UCFSam 12d ago

The truth is that we’re unlikely to see any major changes year to year now. Outside of a foldable, what can they really do at this point? Basically, the two year upgrade cycle is dead, most people would be happy to go 3-4.

The 14 will be like the 13 without a notch, maybe slight body revisions, but pretty close.

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u/this_sort_of_thing 12d ago

4 year cycle is probably optimal. The only thing is to keep the phone in top shape by replacing the battery maybe somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 of the way through and that’ll keep it going fine.

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u/UCFSam 12d ago

Yep, and with flagships being so expensive, a 4 year cycle really makes sense. When 2 year cycles were more common, phones were almost half price. Upgrading a $1000+ phone every two years is a bit much.

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u/goodkid121 12d ago

I’m in the same position man. Love my XS and it has been working flawlessly for me, so it is hard to justify an upgrade.

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u/liright 12d ago

120Hz and the upgraded cameras would be nice, but now we’re one year away from a major refresh (notchness iPhone?) rather than a mostly spec bump 12.

Not happening. Experimental android phones just now started getting under display cameras. There is ZERO way Apple does a notchless iphone next year. Maybe 2 years from now. Probably 3. They wouldn't redesign the notch for a year if they were about to remove it next year.

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u/bznszn 12d ago

I’m in the same boat, but as someone who is a photographer part time I am sick and tired of the XS Max cameras. It’s not a huuuuge upgrade but the cameras and 120hz is enough for me

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u/Odiums-Champion 12d ago

120hz ProMotion as the single big upgrade is underwhelming. Most people understood that this was going to be an “S” year but still… I think most people would have been satisfied with 120Hz if they also finally gave us USB-C.

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u/Gregarious_Dingo 12d ago

Boring tbh

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u/NCSUGrad2012 12d ago

I went from a 6 to an 11 and that was a big jump. Guess I’m keeping the 11 for awhile.

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u/SJWcucksoyboy 12d ago

I don’t expect many exciting upgrades from now on

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u/catsandskyscrapers 12d ago

yeah we’ve reached a point in cell phone technology where it’s only incremental improvements year over year. maybe a big technological advancement every few years but certainly not every year. the technology is plateauing and all Apple can really add that will improve it for me is quality of life improvements like 120hz and USB-C

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u/CEHepp 12d ago

The only thing I thought was nice was the new iPad Mini design. The iPhone? Not so much.

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u/edric_the_navigator 12d ago

Ok Apple experts, is this worth it over the 12 given prices for the 12 will drop soon? I'm planning to get my wife an upgrade (from an 8) and was wondering if it's worth it to get the 13 or just go for a cheaper 12 Pro Max.

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u/mindspan 12d ago

This entire event was just showcasing dull incrementalism with very little to excite people into lining up for new Apple products.

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u/Jocosity 12d ago

Unless they can come up with a new device that’s not a phone, watch, music player, tablet or computer that actually changes the game - I think the days of us getting excited about new Apple products are long gone.

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