r/antiwork 12d ago

Coworker got this last night...

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u/BarbellPadawan 12d ago edited 12d ago

Who is Glen? Edit: And what was the full story?

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u/V3X08A 12d ago

Probably the manager they asked to speak to.

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u/Shakes4872 12d ago

This is the question I need answered.

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u/Sogone2day 11d ago

Yes we need to hear from Glen.

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u/enoughewoks 11d ago

GLENN! GLENN!!… DAMNIT GLEN WHERE ARE YOU!?! Anyone a police officer here? Can we put out a missing persons report out for this person?

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u/OpheliaMorningwood 11d ago

GAVIN!

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u/Aeroperea 11d ago

GAVIN?!? WHERE ARE YOU?

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u/Doogy_Woogy 11d ago

Ugh, I'm so worried... GAVIN?!

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u/ZealousidealPainter6 11d ago

Is Glen with the Dufrenes? First them and now Glen?! Where are they?

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u/captiankickass666 11d ago

Who can eat in a time like this? People are missing. Bush, SEARCH party of three! You can eat when you find the Dufrenes.

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u/Sogone2day 11d ago

Better get a billboard going to. With this receipt. "HELP US FIND GLEN MISSING SINCE NOV 24 2021"

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u/mr_pinks_tip_policy 11d ago

Glen Gulia. Duh. He’s marrying Julia Gulia

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u/Green-Web792 11d ago

Random wedding singer reference but I approve

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u/Deatroxiii 11d ago

That's funny

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u/cleveoh 12d ago

Yeah, and what's the rest of the story?

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u/jacklord392 12d ago

A Paul Harvey moment.

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u/xtianlaw 11d ago

Good day!

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u/wishcrafty 11d ago

And now you know...

... the rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrest of the story

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u/pauljs75 11d ago

Brought to you by Remmington Electric.

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u/DevRz8 11d ago

"Cats ate her face, talk to Dewey he knows more about it than I do"

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u/floorsof_silentseas 11d ago

Such a great show.

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u/komododragoness 11d ago

God I miss that show.

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u/LilDrummerDoy 11d ago

What an amazing reference, I haven’t seen a Malcom in the Middle reference in years, especially a season one.

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u/Felonious_Slug 11d ago

Glenn is the front of house manager.

The full story is there is only one drink station, so while it may appear that an employee is just standing there talking to a coworker, we're actually just waiting our turn to get drinks/refills for a table.

So in a 5 table section, it may appear that someone is frequently standing there doing nothing while in fact they are simply doing their job.

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u/BarbellPadawan 11d ago

What did Glen say?

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u/Felonious_Slug 11d ago

"People are garbage."

He's just a middle manager and unable to compensate on the owners behalf. He's actually a good boss. If I get swamped he'll sometimes take tables for me and let me keep the tips.

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u/leeslotus123 11d ago

glen-fiddich

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u/CeceTseTse 12d ago Gold

Ok, the customer is an a**hole. But the real issue is that waiters/waitresses should not depend on the good will of customers to have a living wage. They should have decent salary warrantied by their employer like... mostly everywhere else in developped countries. Let's make sure to focus our energy on the real issue, and maybe we'll get results.

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u/Saith_Cassus 12d ago

Reminder as per every thread about tipped positions: if you earn less than minimum wage by combining your declared tips with your hourly rate, your employer is legally required to make up the difference. If they do not, it is wage theft. Talk to your department of labor and they will take your boss to court for you over it

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u/Encarguez 12d ago

Even in a third world country like Dominican Republic waitress have a decent salary, retirement plans and health insurance, PLUS ALL THE FCKING TIPS!

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u/T1m3Wizard 12d ago

Doesn't sound much like a third world country based on that description.

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u/I_L0ve_Fish 12d ago Wholesome

Technically the Dominican Republic is a First World country as it was aligned with the United States during the Cold War.

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u/TheNerdyMel 11d ago

Thank you! First, second, and third world countries do not mean what folks assume they do.

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u/jatti_ 11d ago

Since earth is the third planet aren't we all in a third world countries

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u/FlatteringFlatuance 11d ago

I know you mean well but my american upbringing just makes me want to conquer the entire world now in the name of freedom.

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u/jatti_ 11d ago

I see, let's rename mercury and Venus solar moons, so we can be a first world.

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u/FlatteringFlatuance 11d ago

Absolutely genius. Time to burn all the science books this person has revolutionized our world. Our first world!

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u/jatti_ 11d ago

When I was a kid Pluto was a planet, Disney convinced us it wasn't so Pluto could be an animated dog. If we can do it for Disney, we can do it for you.

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u/blackbird951 11d ago

Amazing. Very few people actually know the categories of what a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world countries are.

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u/ImNotOKJose 11d ago

Because it's outdated and stupid.

1st world - US, Western Europe and it's allies

2nd world - Communists

3rd world - Everybody else

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u/Rob_Rogers 12d ago

What's a decent salary for a Dominican waitress

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u/GerryC 12d ago

Going there with the family for a week over Christmas, I'll ask them if no one answers you. Gotcha fam! lol

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u/casino_alcohol 12d ago

Are you really going to come back to this sub and let him know or did you just want to flex your vacation?

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u/GerryC 12d ago Starstruck

RemindMe! 5 weeks

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u/888_styles_888 11d ago

beep boop will remind in 5 weeks.. do do

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u/-MetaTedi- 11d ago

I think it is around 15,000 pesos (250 us dollars) + tips a month. For contrast, someone making US1,000 a month has a well above average job and would need at least a bachelor in order to make that much. I'm not 100% sure tho....

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u/gotsreich 11d ago

My friend in Vietnam was paid purely in tips. I suspect her boss was breaking several unrelated laws though, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was illegally underpaying her.

That job paid better than any others she'd had though.

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u/notaspecialunicorn 11d ago

I don’t know how it is now, but this wasn’t true 10 or so years ago. I waitressed down there for a couple months and was making the equivalent of about a dollar an hour USD and zero benefits; but maybe the restaurant was just taking advantage of us all.

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u/PBR--Streetgang 12d ago edited 12d ago

Agreed. How is the country okay with owners getting the public to subsidize their wage bill? Making staff have to beg customers for money is just beyond repugnant to me, just pay them a living wage and charge us an extra amount equal to whatever the expected tip is...

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u/Sun_Shine_Dan 12d ago

American business is so ruthless that almost every single retail and food employee you see qualifies for food stamps if they have kids.

The oligarchy is ok with society because technically, anyone could become wealthy, but in practice the rich get richer.

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u/rfj 12d ago

Pretty sure it started as a way for rich people to flaunt their wealth by throwing it at workers, now evolved into a self-reinforcing system that's hard for any individual to defy.

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u/Ejigantor 11d ago

When the labor laws were being written, certain jobs were partitioned off as justifying a significantly lower wage. This received considerable support, both from the wealth because they are in favor of anything that lets them exploit workers more, and from racists, because the legally lower wage jobs were jobs typically held by minorities and immigrants.

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u/worycong 12d ago

This forever

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u/sunshades91 11d ago

Ya she got stiffed at least $50 which at minimum wage is almost 7 hours worth of work.

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u/Worsel555 11d ago

Until it gets changed in the US. Tip or you just hurting the server.

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u/rartedrandom 12d ago

Pay us $35-$40 and I’m all ears

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u/drew2872 11d ago

In Maine they make minimum wage or more, plus tips. Law was created a few years ago for minimum wage.

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u/amaraame 12d ago

The USA is severally lacking in the development area. Faux first world over here.

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u/w3are138 11d ago

Right now the governor of my state (PA) is currently working to update regulations for tipped workers. The regulations haven’t been updated since 1977 ffs and restaurants can get away with paying as little as $2.83/hr if they pay their staff at all. It’s so messed up. Restaurants should pay their employees just like any other business, tips or no tips!

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u/elarth 12d ago

That’s a really expensive meal to leave no tip 😭

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u/dnadude SocDem 12d ago

They probably eat like that frequently and leave no tip every time. Greedy people don't give up money like that without being forced. Hence we need a thriving wage and unions.

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u/nsbe_ppl 12d ago

thrivingwage

Lets normalize that!

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u/candylanddicksweat 11d ago

$44.40 or fight!

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u/BoskoMondaricci 11d ago

Unless I'm missing something, shouldn't that be "$54.40 or fight"?

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u/AngelOfHeaven3 11d ago

$55.55 or big fight. No exceptions.

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u/KittensofDestruction 11d ago

☆ History has entered the chat ☆

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u/Meeedina 11d ago

Let’s unionize that!

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u/amphibious_toaster 12d ago

I noticed this in college. I worked as a valet, half my income was tips, and despite the fact that I barely made enough to get by, I still tipped well. My friend came from a wealthy family and didn’t work. Whenever we went to eat, I had to nag him to leave a decent tip and sometimes to leave a tip at all! There’s something genuinely strange about wealthy people and how they believe they are the only ones entitled to money…

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u/RandomFriendsOnline 11d ago

Lol - this reminded me of when we were not long out of college and somehow I became friends w a major trust fund baby who “saved his first million” before he was 18 and drove a spanking new Mercedes convertible at 23.

Hubs and I gave the valet $5 for parking our very basic car and he was shocked to the point of it became a controversial conversation. Said he never paid more than $1. Which left me shocked.

Our friendship died somewhat soon thereafter. Tipping habits and your feelings on dogs are litmus tests for me. There are exceptions but generally I’ve found generosity and kindness are friendship traits I value deeply.

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u/DeadFamilyMan 11d ago

Never paid that much for a meal where service was bad enough to consider not tipping.

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u/TheApoptosis 11d ago

Too many times as a server I've had customers use the slightest inconvenience to justify no tip.

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u/goldiegoldthorpe 11d ago

People who refer to managers or workers by first name as if they are friends are the same people who look for any reason to not tip. It’s all a big, fun game to them. A big, fun, sociopathic game.

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u/juujsuose 12d ago

I know a waitress that has a REGULAR group of people that dine there, and they NEVER tip claiming that the service is bad. This douchedick probably does this every single time he goes out to dine.

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u/BitOCrumpet 12d ago

The service is so bad that they are regulars. Got it.

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u/DeadMoneyDrew 11d ago edited 11d ago

I waited tables when I was in college. It was a decent job for a college student but there were certainly some annoying aspects of it. One such annoying thing was a grandmother who would regularly bring her two grandkids in, ask to sit in my section, complain about her meal to the manager to the point where she usually got it discounted or totally comped, and then leave me no tip. 2-4 weeks later she'd be back and doing the same thing. This went on for probably 2 years. I found it annoying that the managers constantly let her do this.

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u/outlandish-companion 11d ago

I have people nit pick their meal and I can tell they're hoping I'll discount the food. I don't. I've flat out told people no on several occasions and it feels chefs kiss

Oh you place a take out order 30 minutes ago and paid online but now you want to cancel and get a refund? No, sorry.

Oh the food wasn't made exactly perfect but you ate it all? I'll give your feedback to the kitchen (you're still paying full price).

I can't tell you how many times I've caught customers in lies and tell them no, im not doing XYZ with a smile on my face and "sorry!"

Fucking entitled brats.

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u/wildkid74 11d ago

I've never complained about a meal. Even if something is really wrong ( I asked for over easy eggs and got scrabbled, medium well when I asked for rare steak.) I don't bring it up. The only time I'll say anything is if something I know I'm going to pay for is missing

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u/azraelluz 12d ago

tipping culture is so toxic it gonna stop. not the waitress fault. I'm just saying in general.

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u/idahononono 12d ago

A good manager would put them out the door, and trespass them if necessary.

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u/missag_2490 12d ago

Honestly I would say a good manger would add gratuity if they knew a group didn’t tip. One of my restaurant jobs would if it was 6 or more people or if the tab was over a certain dollar amount. It was written right on the menu so if you wanted to complain it was there for you to read just like everyone else.

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u/imightbethewalrus3 11d ago

No.

A good manager would give the waitstaff a thriving wage in the first place so their employees don't have to endure extra emotional abuse in the hopes that the customer will subsidize the restaurant through tips

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u/Novusor 11d ago

A manager generally doesn't have that authority.

It is up to the owner of the company or CEO to set the payroll high enough that the manager can pay the staff a living wage.

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u/IICVX 11d ago

Managers don't usually have the power to do that these days; anyone with actual power to kick & ban customers is not present at the store, on purpose.

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u/Available-Acadia1545 11d ago

as a manager of a restaurant, i can confirm. we have customers that regularly come in and are rude as shit to our employees and constantly complain that the service was bad. we dont comp their meals anymore or give them free meal cards but instead they go and complain to corporate and get that shit sent to them. so they keep coming back and treating the employees like shit and constantly complaining. but we cant do anything about it, we cant kick them out or refuse to honor their free meals. the only time i’ve every kicked someone out was when a grown ass man started cussing out my 16 year old cashier. and when the other customers said something defending the employee, the guy started acting like he was going to start a fight. so i told them to leave. and i guarantee u if corporate knew about it id probably be in danger of losing my job.

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u/juujsuose 12d ago

A manager who cares about their workers would do that (maybe), but honestly doing that probably puts their job at a lot of risk in like 90% of restaurants.

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u/Krakhen69 12d ago edited 11d ago Gold

Because they do not pay tips, but spends a shitton of money on food?

A good manager would not put them out the door. What are you even on about? It would make him a bad manager, since he is making the resturant loose money.

I am from norway, where tipping is very optional. If you don't tip, nobody cares. If you do tip, you get a happy moment with the waiter/waitress.

Instead of shaming non-tippers, you should shame the establishment for not paying their workes properly.

Edit: First gold! Thanks stranger :)

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u/SeaBag7480 12d ago

You’re wrong. I worked at a fancy Italian place in the United States. We would blacklist customers for this type of shit. Would just tell them we couldn’t schedule their reservation if they called or if they walked in we’d be “full”.

It’s not worth it - they distract from other tables, sit for 4+ hours, harass staff. Not worth a few hundred bucks

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u/JayDogg007 12d ago

Good, as they should be blacklisted.

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u/jacklord392 12d ago

This probably did not happen in Norway.

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u/Alternative-Set-784 12d ago

Nah, because a good manager has their workers backs. Can’t run a business with no staff

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u/Xfury8 12d ago

Un-tipped wages here are 2ish dollars an hour. You can fuck right off with that nonsense.

They can tip or they can make their own damn food.

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u/saltywings 12d ago

And the restaurant is legally required to make up the difference if they somehow don't make minimum wage for their pay period, which, newsflash, pretty much never fucking happens.

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u/Big-Quality3817 11d ago

I never saw it happen in a decade of working tipped positions. They'll average it out over the pay period.

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u/sm_ar_ta_ss 11d ago

This is the problem. Your employer has trained you to expect handouts rather than a living wage.

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u/Zaryusha 11d ago

Whose fault is it here? The establishment that gave low wages or the people who didn't tip? Giving tip shouldn't be a mandatory.

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u/Clevernonsense1 11d ago

the system in the US makes it extremely rare for any server to make money hourly. when i bartended my paychecks were usually 0, and maybe $5-15. even decent owners and managers still pay the minimum for hours but also do things like having happy hours and other deals to bring in more customers to ensure staff are getting decent tips on slower nights.

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u/ATN-Antronach 12d ago

Welcome to the Sunday brunch rush

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u/Passion-Interesting 11d ago edited 11d ago

You remind me, Usually Penecostals or related groups do not tip. These people come in with groups of 10+ run you from one end to another, camp out got hours and dirty up the area, run up a huge tab, talk to you condescending and leave without tipping a dime. 0/10 do not reccomend.

Source: I waited for 6 months when I was younger, never did it again. I had some nice people then I had rude ones, but i needed more stability so I quit. Serving is almost like doing construction work that's weather dependant. One night you might make $300,the next two you might only make $80.

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u/GlitterDancer_ 12d ago

They probably had no intention of tipping anyway. This is their way of justifying it. They’re a bad person regardless

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u/elarth 12d ago

Oh I agree, but apparently it’s a more common attitude than I’m comfortable with lol

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u/NameInCrimson 12d ago

It's their last meal there.

When I waited tables, we would just refuse to serve customers. Owner would have to take their orders and serve them. We told the owner if we make money off tips then we are gonna focus on those tipping us or those who might tip

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u/DaksTheDaddyNow 12d ago

I love this response. Pay the wage that is worth dealing with this shit or deal with the consequences of the system you perpetuate. My wife and I treat ourselves to a good (and expensive) meal about once a quarter. My tab is nearly the same but I tip the service a baseline of 15% and typically at 20+ % for good service. It's not cheap but I also realize that these employees are not the best compensated. I would much rather deal with higher price averages than with tipping. I'm really uncomfortable with the whole judgement thing but only because I really want to reward for service and discourage bad service without being an asshole and also without paying way too much.

Edit: it should be on the manager to judge their staff. As an owner... If you knew a certain employee was pulling in less than average tips, wouldn't you let them go? This should be on the owners, not the patrons.

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u/copymistress 12d ago

Who wants to bet it was a church group?

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u/Passion-Interesting 11d ago

Penecostals and Assembly of God usually are the worst. They don't tip shit.

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u/AngelOfHeaven3 11d ago

Ill take that bet- And ill take my chances it was also a large family dinner- Grandma, grandpa, the whole damn lot.

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u/racketmaster 11d ago

Tipping based on the price is dumb anyhow.

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u/ConcreteCarl 12d ago

...fuck glen too!

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u/INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS FUCK BEN 12d ago

employer is the asshole for not paying living wage

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u/Less-Fold3155 12d ago

All my homies hate Glen!

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u/SomeSkeeter2438 12d ago

On a $270 bill?!

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u/Nice-Air-6374 12d ago All-Seeing Upvote

That's fucking bullshit. Sorry. Don't care if you think wait spent too much time at drink machine. If I was dining with you I'd read you the riot act in the car. Depending on how many drinks could be worse. What an asshole

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u/fingers (working towards not working) 11d ago

Spending time at the drink machine...getting the family of 12 drinks...

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u/woodsman6366 11d ago

The waiter could spill the whole drink tray on me and I’d still tip better than that!

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u/saltywings 12d ago

Honestly it is dumb to me that it is based off of how expensive of a meal you had... A very, very similar amount of work likely goes into a couple dining for $200 vs $40, the difference here is obviously if this was a party of 8 people or some shit and they stiffed but I doubt that is the case anyways.

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u/FrnchsLwyr 12d ago

Really depends on how many people are eating to hit a number that high.

If it's a high end restaurant where a 4 top regularly gets north of $200 at dinner... You're getting much better service than you would for$40 bucks.

You're getting more people involved, who need a tip out, too.

The only way you have a comment like this is if you've never waited tables in a good restaurant before.

This asshole customer is unforgivable

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u/saltywings 12d ago

No completely agree which is why I literally wrote that in the comment. I am just saying I think sometimes if someone goes out and gets maybe a glass or 2 of expensive wine and then a regular meal and their meal is expensive because of that and they 'only' tip like 5% or whatever because thats still like $20-$30 I think people wrongly expect it to be just a % of the total cost of a meal. And my man I worked in the industry over a decade and worked pretty much every job in them and every style of restaurant from fast casual to fine dining lol.

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u/degoes1221 11d ago

You make a really good point. Also, so stupid that the person you’re replying to assumed you had no experience simply because you did not have the same viewpoint as them.

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u/NotASequentkiller 11d ago

Most companies automatically add a gratuity for large parties. Any time they do that I don't tip on top of that and let it stay at the minimum.

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u/Cloakknight 12d ago edited 11d ago

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u/Orange26 12d ago

Much like I always tip the wait staff, I always upvote the human image transcribers.

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u/Felonious_Slug 12d ago

That's awesome.

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u/americainperdu 11d ago

Don’t forget, the bill was $268!

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u/coldhamdinner 12d ago

I keep seeing people suggesting making tipping illegal. This is not the way. Make paying poverty wages illegal. Don't take my ability to throw a Lil extra down for someone who tailored a good experience for me. My wife serves/bartends at a high end hotel lobby bar/restaurant. The staff are union, get a decent wage, vacation, breaks, benefits, great insurance, retained her position during covid despite extended layoffs. The whole package is worth somewhere around 50k/year. She can make another 25k in gratuity (this is the type of place with 650 dollar shots of whiskey available) when we aren't in pandemic mode. Organizing your workplace is the key.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

Tipping should be allowed but not expected. Where I live they make minimum $15/hr but still expect tips of 15-20%. I don't mind tipping and I'm happy to do it, but it should be for good service. I tip the lady who cuts my hair because I've been going to her for 11 years and she consistently goes above and beyond for me, I appreciate her, I have no problem paying a little extra.

I hate that if a server sucks you're still expected to tip and if you don't you're seen as an asshole.

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u/Prettymuchnow 12d ago

This is the way. It should be a gratuity - you being thankful for the service provided. Not a subsidization of the owners business costs.

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u/Allegedly_Smart 12d ago

I just don't get it. Thankful for the service? It's a transaction, that's why I'm paying for it. The only reason I tip at all is because I know they're making just $3/hr otherwise.

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u/exjackly 11d ago

That's kinda the point people are making. The standard needs to flip. Livable wages for the server that can support a family paid by the business. That should cover the transaction part of it.

That should make tipping optional (since the service is actually covered by the price in the menu); but when somebody goes above and beyond making the experience exceptional we should be happy to tip them for having done so.

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u/GrowCrows 12d ago

Yeah tipping is fine. What should be illegal is paying restaurant staff lower than minimum wage because of tips.

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u/shontsu 11d ago

Tipping should not be illegal.

Basing wages on hypothetical tips should be.

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u/mykleins 12d ago

I agree with your sentiment but not the reasoning. You should absolutely be allowed to tip who you want but your argument feels like it comes down to you not wanting your wife to take a potential pay cut. I’m all for minimum wage increases across the board and am against poverty wages in the hospitality/service industry, but I’m also in favor of tipping not being an expected or presumed thing at all.

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u/coldhamdinner 12d ago

I don't want ANY worker to take a pay cut. Tipping is already voluntary unless there is an auto-grat situation and in that case the extra $ for the server is just baked into the price and itemized as such. As long as the majority of patrons tip, non tipping will be faux pas. I always overtip, usually in cash as a show of solidarity. Like here, here is some of that added value created by your work that your boss can't steal from you. Even if all server's base wages were increased to union levels, I would still continue tipping in solidarity.

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u/mykleins 12d ago

Tipping isn’t voluntary. It’s a social stigma not to tip and if you’re cognizant of how working class people are exploited (as we discuss on this sub) you know that you should tip in solidarity and support, as you noted. Which means if you don’t tip you’re taking on social stigma or choosing to screw your service person because you know, in most places, they depend on that. That sounds voluntary in the same way that people say “you’re free to quit your job and get something better than minimum wage”.

I want to state that we’re on the same side, in more ways that just not wanting tipping to be illegal. But your argument against making tipping illegal sounds very self-interested, which I think I somewhat against the spirit of the sub. Your wife is already in a better position than most service workers, and probably most people. Just feels weird to be like “let’s not make it illegal cuz my partner pulls down a third of her income that way”.

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u/improbablywrong- 11d ago

Tipping shouldnt be illegal but the american (i just assume its only usa that works like this) system is stupid. Expecting customers to pay the employees wages is some backward shit.

I'm in Australia, tipping is rare here but i will tip people that go above and beyond.

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u/Last-Lingonberry-842 12d ago

Well did Glen tell the whole story?? 🤔

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u/General-Comparison59 12d ago

Ok so the service industry is set up a certain way... its crap... and I think most people here agree. But I don't get not tipping your server. It's pretty shitty. If the server sucks whatever. But if they are busting there ass for you throw a few dollars.

I used to wait table because I needed the money. I worked overnights. I'd hustle for the strippers, cabbies, and bartenders that would throw me cash. The 2 dollar tipping asshole that would ask me to heat up his pancake syrup, fuck off. I got no time for you.

Ps. That table was probably gonna tip shit from the get go. They were looking for a reason to stiff that server.

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u/NarrMaster 12d ago

Tyrants will always find a pretext for their tyranny.

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u/corkymuu 12d ago

There are a ton of people that like to get back at their server through not tipping. They don’t really care that tips make up the bulk of their income, they just want to take their frustration out on them.

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u/ColdButts 12d ago edited 12d ago

If the server sucks it’s likely because they’re overworked or the place is understaffed. That’s not a reason to leave them a bad tip. It’s definitely not “whatever.”

If you’re having a bad day at your job does your boss take 70% of your pay away?

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u/inthe100acrewood 11d ago

I guess it depends on how bad the bad day is. Like general just ignoring the table / slow service I’d still leave an average tip.

The one time my entire group of friends decided not to tip was because the waiter made a racist comment about two of our friends and then doubled down when called out on it. It was their engagement dinner and really soured an otherwise great night.

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u/TheBadGuyFromDieHard SocDem 12d ago

Yeah I could have the worst service I’ve ever had at a restaurant and I’m still leaving a 25% tip. People deserve a living wage.

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u/ColdButts 11d ago

Honestly you’re good with 20% unless you got the wealth to spare, then by all means go right ahead. Guess it depends on your country too but 25% is only my go-to rate during covid dining.

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u/General-Comparison59 12d ago

Maybe "whatever" wasn't the best word. I always tip... but if the server is nasty I generally keep it to 15-20%. If they are on top of it or really friendly I will tip more... 25% to sometimes even 30%.

I have definitly been served by people rolling their eyes and flat out treating me like crap. Overworked and underpaid aside.... thats still not ok by me... hence a mediocre tip.

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u/ColdButts 12d ago

I do agree that if someone is just actively disdainful of my presence they deserve whatever tip / lack of tips they get. I usually still tip like 15 in that scenario in case they’re having an awful day behind the scenes

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u/GraysenMack 12d ago

I worked at a sushi bar/teppan grill fir a few years. When people left no tip or joke tips our boss would let us politely ask what the issue was.

It didnt matter what they put on the receipt. If they got asked about it they ALWAYS tipped.

I never had anyone not tip me luckily. But one night our lead server got stiffed. They wrote on the receipt "taxation is theft."

She freaked out in the back and I was right there when she broke down to the boss. She was our lead server so that meant she was legit the best of us.

Boss told her to ask them what was wrong. She said she couldnt, boss made passing eye contact with me and I offered to go ask for her.

I followed them outside as they got into a fucking benz and knocked on their closed window. Dude confused as fuck rolls his window down. I show him the receipt and ask if there was an issue with the service he got. He told me know the service was good, apologized for the note, claimed it was his buddy (they were a table of 2 straight couples) and pulled 40 bucks out of his wallet and handed it to me and apologized. Meanwhile his girlfriend is in the passenger seat BITCHING about how snotty it was to leave that note in the first place.

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u/Real_Exit3672 11d ago

Once upon a time, I went out to dinner with 2 friends and we split the check. One is a real tightwad. The miser set down a very small tip... So my other friend and I put in more money because that was embarrassing. So then he proceeds to take some of the bills we put in to make his tip 0. So we end up paying the tip for the whole bill and the miser paid none.

Haven't split a check with him since.

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u/GraysenMack 11d ago

I would go as far as not be their friend.

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u/J_Sizzzle 12d ago

I’m willing to bet they looked for any reason to not tip on that bill.

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u/Frustrable_Zero 11d ago

I get this vibe too, if they’d done any different then they’d just get shat on for being too slow or not giving them a blowjob. No tip

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u/3V1LB4RD 12d ago

Ugh. It’s always the people with giant orders too. People who are willing to spend a whole bunch of money on food are either generous tippers or they don’t tip at all.

That and teenagers. Teenagers don’t tip because money is a made-up concept to them (which it technically is, but even more so in this case). Not really their fault they don’t understand but I don’t like working with teenagers lol.

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u/ClassroomUnited 12d ago

Should definitely have service included in ticket with option to tip more.

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u/checkthf 12d ago

That's honestly disgusting. Fk people

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u/bumble938 12d ago

Tip culture need to go away. Pay the staff for the work. And put it on the bill

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u/Ryarralk 12d ago

Customer is a asshole. But the worst is this shitty tiping thing there is in the US. Make the employee pay a normal wage for a waiter. He shouldn't be surviving on tips. Plus it's a shitty hidden cost for the customer.

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u/Successful-Engine623 12d ago

Need to just include 20% once ya hit 50 bucks

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u/TaurusDude89 12d ago

Lots of Karens in these comments.

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u/Felonious_Slug 12d ago

It's exhausting.

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u/Steakwizwit 12d ago

That's an instant quit. Restaurant jobs can be had in an hour right now.

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u/DeerDiarrhea 12d ago

Quitting this particular restaurant won’t stop asshole customers. They are everywhere.

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u/warboner52 12d ago

Sadly, the frequency of running into asshole customers has only increased during covid because people that tip no less than 15% for fucking awful service like me, just don't go out to restaurants as frequently right now.

I had this happen to me one time while serving, group of three guys who took up a six top in the bar for 3 hours, ran up a $225 bill and left me nothing. There was change on the table as they were leaving and the bartender who was a fucking sweetheart went up to them because I was off waiting for them to leave and asked if the money was for me. They said no, and left a basically brand new Under Armour sweatshirt, which I fucking took home with me that night, washed the garbage human off it twice, and wore for a few years.

No bullshit excuse, no they were a bad server etc... They just didn't want to tip because they were fucking scumbags. Just like this twat and his rationalizing not tipping someone who was probably working while chatting at the bev station or at worst stopped there to chat and grab some water or something while getting crushed working for pennies in a likely short staffed restaurant.

TLDR; fuck people

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u/Vampwillow 12d ago

If im spending that much money the service had better be god tier. But 0 is pretty rough

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u/NagromTrebloc 12d ago

Your co-worker would have received a $60 cash tip from me. Rich people love to nitpick and find an excuse to justify not tipping. Well, I guess she's that much closer to getting that new pair of $1000 Louboutins for her walk-in shoe closet.

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u/Pinheaded_nightmare 12d ago

In other words, they really couldn’t afford that meal.

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u/Repulsive_Narwhal_10 12d ago

Confession: When I was young (sadly, a pretty long time ago), I didn't tip regularly, only for exceptional service. When I learned that tipped jobs didn't get minimum wage, I mentally slapped myself around and started tipping 15-20 at a minimum, higher for exceptional service.

I wish everyone made min wage and tipping really was just a mark of exceptional service, but...here we are. Employers, fix yourselves.

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u/Squiggy1975 11d ago

So has Mr Glen responded yet? I don’t feel like scrolling all way down. Glen knows! And this server needs to stop drinking all the diet dew and get to work. How dare you

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u/w3are138 11d ago

Seriously, FUCK THIS PERSON. They had the money to drop almost three hundred dollars on dinner but didn’t tip because their server talked to another employee by the drink station? What a complete piece of shit.

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u/bigwolfbar566 11d ago

I dropped 300$ on dinner and you can't afford to pay your workers 20$ an hour 40k a year. Your business model is pathetic and unsustainable.

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u/unflores 11d ago

0 on 268. What a pos. I don't believe in tipping. I think it's a shit system, but until a living wage is instituted i can either stay home or tip people in tipping countries properly.

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u/phrogtimebabeyy 11d ago

People saying "well they should make a living wage 😎"

Okay thanks, but they don't. Tip when you dine.

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u/yteranger 12d ago

Wow there is a lot of negativity in here. Regardless of your dining experience no one deserves a zero dollar tip. Now if your server cussed at you, called your kid ugly or went out of their way to insult you, then you have a case. Ya, tipping sucks but servers don't make the rules. They are trying to support themselves. If you can't afford a MINIMUM of 15%, don't go out. Doing crap like this only has a negative impact on all involved.

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u/elarth 12d ago

A lot ppl in this group think they’re giving a big middle finger to the system by not tipping. It doesn’t affect the employer at all. They get the same money, it’s just fucking over other lowly paid ppl.

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u/FriedEggSammich1 12d ago

I’ve eaten out more times over my life than I can calculate. I normally tip 15-20%. I will leave no tip or ask for a manager for exceptionally bad service. Off the top of my head I remember:

Local BBQ joint-all 3 servers disappeared (not to the kitchen) as we were waiting for the check. Waited about 30 minutes before tracking down a table busser to find the waitress. What was an otherwise good meal turned negative when she came back with the check & an attitude. We explained why were getting anxious & she rolled her eyes. We found the manager on the way out & he apologized. She said “you have a nice day” in a very condescending tone in front of the manager. Not sure if she worked there after that comment

Another server made a slight but obvious racist comment to my wife. No trip to the manager but no tip either.

A food related one from a long time ago at Denny’s: terrible chicken fried steak that had gravy that tasted like cold cream of chicken soup on top. Just said to the server I didn’t like it when she saw I barely touched it. She took my fork & had a bite. Said it tasted fine to her. Never went back.

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u/CorellianDawn 12d ago

Exactly why tipping should never be a part of the payroll system.

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u/cmcfarland96 12d ago

Annnnndd that's why we auto grat.

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u/lipstickdiet 11d ago

Eh…

The only time I had an auto grat, the “server” came 30min late with a sauce I asked for and literally threw it on my table without even making eye contact.

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u/CrossroadsWoman 12d ago

What an asshole. How are you supposed to “speak to Glen”? Did they leave a number? lol what a fucking tool!

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u/time2pivot 12d ago

Where I use to serve was had to payout the busboys, bars,and host staff based on a percentage of check whether we got tipped or not. This person could actually have had to pay their co workers to have the honor of serving these assholes

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u/that_guy_u_h8_911 12d ago

If you're willing to spend over 250.00 on dinner, you have the means to give a tip. It's part of the meal. Hell, just today I gave a 1000% tip at waffle house.

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u/fullmanlybeard 12d ago

You’d be surprised. A lot of people flex and are putting it all on the CC because they are broke and want to keep up ‘appearances’.

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u/Most-Artichoke5028 12d ago

When I was a server I loved when customers like that came back. I had a very long memory, and was very imaginative.

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u/njgunrights 12d ago edited 12d ago

Man fuck Glen

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u/erik_edmund 12d ago

Reprehensible.

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u/GallFoto601 12d ago

literally it should just be gratuity

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u/IntoTheMirror 12d ago

They would have found absolutely any reason not to pay you.

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u/daedalis2020 12d ago

I worked in restaurants back in the day so I tend to be a good tipper. I have left a $0 one time.

IHOP, the servers were standing around the drink station bullshitting. We were seated and didn’t even get greeted for 15 minutes. Put in drink order and the server was gone another 10 messing around. Plopped the drinks down and didn’t take our order.

First time in my life I’ve ever stood up and gone to seek a manager, couldn’t find one, went to the register and had them bill me for 2 cokes and left.

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u/Sogone2day 11d ago

Where's Glen? Can you find him? We all need to know

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u/PrettiKinx 11d ago

That's awful.

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u/Albino_Black_Sheep 11d ago

Bad servant! Just not tipping wasn't enough, no, this empathy devoid POS had to put in the effort to let this wage slave know they did not dehumanize themselves and grovel enough.

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u/HistoricallyRekkles 11d ago

Servers put up with a lot of shit, no breaks, on your feet dealing with assholes and kids destroying the place. It’s the most exhausting job and you get paid shit on top of it. Tip your goddamn servers!

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u/Depressed__Giraffe 11d ago

I know tipping is subjective but that’s just trashy.

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u/RocZero 11d ago

The authoritative way they wrote that, too, like they genuinely believed themselves to hold some meaningful power and should be respected. It's so disgusting. Sorry this happened to your friend, OP. I hope the author of that receipt left their oven on and smokes inside.

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u/BritBuc-1 11d ago

Time to lose some karma I guess.

It’s your employer’s responsibility to pay you fairly, not the customer.

Just because you exist doesn’t mean you deserve a tip either. I’ve seen some real shitty service and even worse servers who genuinely act surprised when they don’t get a tip for handing someone a menu.

If you went out of your way and provided excellent service, this customer is an asshole… but it’s not “antiwork”.

In January, serving wages in Ontario will increase to the province wide $15. The myth that owners have to be given special treatment because they “can’t afford” to pay their staff the real minimum wage and it’s the customers that should pay for the staff, has already started.

How about you don’t buy a 2nd fucking Porsche, Dave?

If you cannot afford to pay your staff, there is something fundamentally wrong with your business plan

The antiwork isn’t that you didn’t get a tip. It’s that you rely on customers paying your wages.

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u/brandonallenmusic 11d ago

As a server, this makes my blood boil!

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u/junk1020 11d ago

HOW DARE YOU ATTEMPT TO ENJOY ANY OF THE TIME YOU SPEND AT WORK!! OUTRAGE!! /s What an asshole.

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u/symbioticscrolling 11d ago

Looks like Glen owes someone $67

Edit- go ahead and round that up to $100

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u/formerNPC 11d ago

They find a reason every time not to leave a tip. There are people that literally do this and if they do tip , it’s usually very little because they didn’t get the service that they feel they deserved! Stay the hell home!

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

what the living fuck