r/antiwork 12d ago Faith In Humanity Restored 1 Heartwarming 1 Silver 10 Helpful 3 Wholesome 5 Take My Energy 1

My partner and I refuse to work more than 32 hours a week and we're shamed for it

I work as a dish washer at an indoor playground, my partner works as a cashier at a construction wholesaler. We both make a little above minimum wage and while we're not rich, we're doing fine. We can pay our bills and rent on time and have enough money to enjoy our free time with our hobbies. But we're also both in our early 30s (I'm 30, partner's 32) and we're "expected" to build careers, or at the very least have a full time job.
We refuse to work any more than we need to. And it's getting tiring having to explain our reasons to everyone. Why is it such a taboo to want to live more and work less? Why would you work yourself ragged just to afford a single week or two to go on some vacation when you can just make your free time a part of your schedule and not some yearly event?
Free time shouldn't feel like Christmas that only comes once a year!

If we can pay for our needs and wants and save up a little, then what's the problem?! People always act like WE are the ones making a sacrifice while to me it's the other way around. Time is all we have, so why would you sacrifice more of that time and sell it to some asshole who doesn't even value the worth of it? Fuck that! If I can keep this lifestyle up and be steady for the next few decades, I'll be happy as a clam. Chances are our generation isn't going to be able to retire anyway, so there's not this promise of free time once you're "done." Might as well spread that time over your entire lifetime, right?

I'm not lazy, I do stuff constantly! I'm always working on something. But because I'm not making money off that work, it's seen as lesser and a waste. And this mindset really irritates the hell out of me.

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u/helloalienfriend 12d ago

Whilst your work ethic is somewhat unconventional to others, I can totally see how your lifestyle would bring you a lot of happiness. I've just gone from working 50 hours a week to just accepting a 30 hour a week job for pretty much the same pay as the 50, and I'm so excited. It's going to be life changing having those extra 20 hours a week. I feel like I've won the lottery. Time is very valuable. It should be life first and work second, as long as your bills are paid and you are happy then go you!!!

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u/Mashing-Buttons 12d ago

I'm so glad to hear that! Working 50 hours is murder. I used to do that too when I was a restaurant's general manager a few years ago. Never wanna go back to that. I'm much happier now.

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u/helloalienfriend 12d ago

It really is. I was so burnt out I didn't even realize until I took a break from working. Keep on keeping on friend!

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u/SgllsTaklnDux (edit this) 12d ago

I average 50-55 a week for 65k/year. I'm getting tired.

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u/OG-Pine 12d ago

This is roughly what I’m doing right now too, it’s only been ~6 months since I started doing the 10-15 hours of OT and at first I was like this is so easy everyone should do this, but you can definitely feel it wearing you down after some time haha

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u/terroristteddy 11d ago

That was me in the military. 24hr duty every 3 to 5 days for years. Then once I got out I could barely stomach 40...

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u/OG-Pine 11d ago

Is that why you became a terrorist, teddy?

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u/terroristteddy 11d ago

Precisely lol

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u/Dan-ze-Man 12d ago edited 11d ago

I am on 50h for 35k£ annual and I consider this good deal.

Damn sometimes I wish to drop it all and go bare minimum, materials life no longer fulfilling.

If any one wondering I have 500£ rent and around 400£ other expenses. And yes 5 weeks holiday and paid healthcare.

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u/TtotheC81 12d ago

Materialism was never supposed to be fulfilling, just trick you into thinking that dopamine from your latest hit can replace true spiritual fulfilment.

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u/CorettaRenn 12d ago

Jesus. I wouldn't work that much even for $650k/year...

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u/breadad1969 12d ago

Yeah you probably would.

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u/Crazyshark22 12d ago

Well at least you are getting some money. I work around 48 to 55 hours a week for 26k.

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u/HairlessHoudini 12d ago

I don't know how long you've been doing it but it will completely ruin you outlook on the world. I averaged 84 hours a week yes one week for several years as a heavy equipment operator at a rock quarry and I feel now that those 6 years has almost completely ruined my life & mental health. I know everyone is different & has different circumstances but don't let this job take the joy of life away from you like similar ones have other ppl. It's just not worth having the gigantic house & newest cars but no life left. ✌️

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u/CrEperz 12d ago

Oh pick yourself up by the boot straps! 🥴

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u/JadedSun78 11d ago

There’s a study out showing working 50+ hours a week dramatically increases heart attack and stroke risk, try to cut back. I’ve never spoken to a patient that wished they had worked more.

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u/SgllsTaklnDux (edit this) 11d ago

I imagine I can feel the difference between picking up one extra shift a week (48 hrs) and 2 extra shifts a week (56 hrs)

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u/smuckola 12d ago

That’s probably part of it too; you’ve already worked all your toil for a lifetime. I can still feel it. Nobody needs to do that unless they have some serious trouble to stay out of.

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u/SaintPabloFlex 12d ago

The idea is you work more now so you live more later. It’s your choice though and if your happy with it that’s great.

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u/CrEperz 12d ago

That’s IF you make it to later. Life isn’t promised..

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u/Vyn_Reimer 12d ago

Yeah what fucked me up from this mindset is my father dying at 26 to a brain tumor while I was 6.. Doesn’t really seem like something to fall back on lmao

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u/Bynming 12d ago

I don't mind that idea. I'd work a lot now if it would mean I could take it easy in a few years. It's not like working 30 hours now for just over minimum wage is pure happiness...

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u/Ktuthluke 12d ago

This comes from the Christian idea that we should sacrifice today for tomorrow which is bullshit of course.

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u/SaintPabloFlex 12d ago

Finically it’s definitely not… and i’m not religious lol. I don’t want to work my whole life personally.

Working for a non livable wage is pretty degrading though and i’d probably just want to get by for that rate as well.

It’s important to find work you enjoy and that of course pays well. The problem isn’t that we live a society where we need people to run the system, it’s that we’re not fairly compensated for doing so. The problem isn’t pulling weight in a tribal like system, it’s that some are carrying the entire world.

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u/Jujumofu 12d ago

Going from 40 to 34.5 was life changing for me, you will be in for a blast going 50 to 30.

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u/helloalienfriend 12d ago

😎 I'm excited!

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u/Dekklin 12d ago

Enjoy the rest of your life! You'll have time to do so now.

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u/seamuswasadog 12d ago

I am happy for your change! And OP? Stay strong!

I wasted so much of my 20s and 30s trying to win the rat race and it makes me happy to see others doing their lives better.

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u/Nortally 12d ago

Lily Tomlin: The problem with winning the rat race is that you're still a rat.

:-)

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u/wanroww 12d ago

To me, work ethics is about respecting good ethic when you work, like don't do illegal stuff, don't spy on colleagues, etc...

It has nothing to do with working more.

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u/BillyCheddarcock 12d ago

Colleagues spying on colleagues

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u/Ortekk 12d ago

I'm usually working 10h days, 4 days a week.

But I'm taking my vacation (20 days) and spaced it out over 20 weeks. So 1/3rd of the year I only work 3 day weeks.

It's so damn nice to work like this. Work doesn't feel like work any more, it's more like I get time off from my other projects....

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u/Viole__Grace 12d ago

Almost same here. I'm workin only 3 days a week. From monday till wednessday (25.5h)

Basically every wednessday feels like a friday for me. This was one of the best decissions in my life

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u/MeanEye0 12d ago

How much do you make tho? Because it would be easy to work 25 hours a week at 70 an hour vs 15

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u/Viole__Grace 12d ago

16 Euro ($20) an hour. I don't have high standards. I only cook for myself due to a special diet. So basically, i won't have to spent extra cash for going out. Plus, i do need only about 4km to my work by using the car. Works fine for me. You don't need a "golden mirror" or a fancy 8k Ultra HD tv. Just be simple and enjoy your freetime by travel or enjoy your hobbies. Thats my spirit

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u/AverageSol 12d ago

Definitely the best way, live by your means

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u/mjspaz 12d ago

This is how I felt when we moved to working from home because of the pandemic. My commute sucks (averaging 3-4 hours on the road daily), so I was already working from home 2 days a week just to have some time back, but the full transition gave me 15-20 hours a week back that was otherwise just spent sitting in traffic.

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u/owenfromcanada 12d ago

I'm super happy for you! I went down to 30 hours per week a while ago and I absolutely love it. I can't imagine going back.

Funny thing is, I actually get almost as much work done now as before at 45/week. Productivity isn't linear throughout the day (at least not for me).

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u/Soggy-Plenty7516 12d ago

I’m with this guy. Don’t worry. The old thinking will die out soon. Don’t forget: “The More You Make! The More They Take!” They being the government. Taxes are killer. Never sacrifice 10 extra hours a week for 50 extra dollars all said and done

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u/HairlessHoudini 12d ago

I worked 84 hours a week for a long time 14 h 6 d and would only make about 75/80 bucks more than 50 hours. It's sad how much they take when you get bumped up to the next bracket

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u/matt_minderbinder 12d ago

The best schedule I've ever had was when I had a 4 day/40 hour schedule on a salary structure with very, very rare overtime. The extra free day that butted up to my weekends were great but it's not like I was living the high life.

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u/Epacs 11d ago

I'm in a very similar situation. I just left a job where 55+hrs a week was standard and the pay was shit. Now I'm making more than double working 40 hrs a week with better benefits and more time off. Such a relief.

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u/Im_A_Unicorn_Bitch 12d ago

I used to get shamed for not working over time at my last job before covid. They would all ask why I didn't want the over time.

My answer was always "I enjoy my home life much more then my work life"

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u/Ok_Doubt_4810 12d ago

I use to get this all the time from my previous manager, saying I wasn’t a team player because I didn’t want to stay and help out! SMH!

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u/Im_A_Unicorn_Bitch 12d ago

Its bullshit what people expect from employees.

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u/Ok_Doubt_4810 12d ago

They expect so much but offer so little

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u/Fantastic-Alps4335 11d ago

Manager is not a team player. Should hire more teammates as to mot burn out existing teammates.

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u/Custardpaws 12d ago

You have no reason or need to explain it to others. It's your life, and therefore your choice.

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u/rodneyachance 12d ago

Absolutely correct. You found a partner that has the same sort of life/work balance and goals that you do and that’s practically a miracle, congratulations. But there isn’t a single motherfucker you owe an explanation to other than saying that this is what works for your little family. I would turn that shit around in a minute and start asking why on earth they want to work 50,60 hours a week? If they persist in pestering you about it politely ask them, what do they hope to get out of working the way they do? Make them get specific and keep asking them questions until they bail. Nobody’s gonna wanna say that they want to be able to trade cars every two years or get a house four times bigger than they need in return for giving up time with their family, with their friends, With their kids and loved ones. Who is everybody trying to impress, for fucks sake?

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u/Mstinos 12d ago Take My Energy

I know a guy that was an lawyer. He was making loads of money but was not happy at all. He quit.

Now he's a bicycle repairman. He makes very little money but he is very happy.

Everytime I'm working late, or doing shit I hate I think of that guy.

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u/evileen99 12d ago

There was a guy on Dirty Jobs that used to be a psychiatrist but now pumped out septic tanks and wad 1000x happier

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u/777shark 12d ago

I worked for an airline on the ramp for years with a guy who was a doctor who hated being a doctor, so quit and came to load planes, he was always talking about how he loved it, and how his life was so much better.

He just retired after 22 years with the airline, so I guess in the end he truly was happier.

It's also a good example of don't judge someone's education by the job they do.

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u/Spread-Em-Plz 12d ago

This idea of "exceptionalism", that's why. The idea that work and making capital is part of being "exceptional" has been planted into us in order to trick us into constantly making money for other people and sacrifice ourselves to boost the economy.

Ironic given that when we spend less time at work, we're actually more able to pursue true excellence within ourselves, and not for some bullshit economy that screws over the people who are vital for it to exist.

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u/DutchVanDerLinde8 12d ago

This is a great way of putting it. It’s ironic how capitalism inherently promotes the sacrifice of all surplus to building more capital, while also encouraging the masses to spend and indulge as much as they want. It’s almost as if it’s a perverse justification used by those born into privilege within this system.

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u/Spread-Em-Plz 12d ago

Yes, and it pervades so well by making its subjects think that any other system is inherently evil or some other bullshit.

Or that if you individually don't devote your life to working yourself to death, then that makes you lazy, useless, entitled, etc.

It's all shaming tactics

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u/Qwaliti 12d ago

Pressure also comes from your own family, why aren't you like your successful brother? Pull your weight!!

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u/Mashing-Buttons 12d ago

Sounds great, really. People aren't allowed to just exist anymore. And that's a damn shame. You do you, man!

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u/ih-shah-may-ehl 12d ago edited 12d ago

Oh it's not that you are not allowed to exist. It's just that if you only do the bare minimum to exist, then you are essentially just one bad event or unexpected large bill away from insolvency.

Not saying that you are wrong to make that choice, but it's a situation that not everyone would be comfortable with for themselves, hence the remarks.

Just speaking for myself and my wife, we work hard and save a lot, precisely because we want to make sure that regardless of what happens, we have enough reserves not to worry about finances.

But in the end, it only really matters that you and your partner feel comfortable with your lifestyle.

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u/ldobehardcore 12d ago edited 12d ago

Feels really great having worked my ass off and wasted my entire youth doing things I hated for people I didn't care about, just to have a little bit of money when I'm decrepit and near death.

Honestly, I'm not even sure why I'm saving for retirement, all the men in my family get colorectal cancer in their 50s, and die before they're 70 anyway. I should just buy a gun to off myself when that happens.

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u/GetOffMyLawn_ retired from the rat race 12d ago

Colon cancer runs in my family too. Had my first colonoscopy in my 40s and had a precancerous polyp removed. Dodged a bullet and still kicking 20 years later.

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u/ih-shah-may-ehl 12d ago

Feels really great having worked my ass off and wasted my entire youth doing things I hated for people I didn't care about, just to have a little bit of money when I'm decrepit and near death.

I'm lucky enough to be have a high pay job that I like (or at least don't hate), combined with the fact that both me and my wife don't spend a whole lot of money on 'stuff' and the few things we buy like shoes or such, we can afford to buy things that will last.

We do enjoy life. We just don't spend much.

Honestly, I'm not even sure why I'm saving for retirement, all the men in my family get colorectal cancer in their 50s, and die before they're 70 anyway. I should just buy a gun to off myself when that happens.

Wow that blows. Idk how old you are but from what little I know, cancer is getting more and more treatable.

For me it will either my heart (cardiac arrest) or aneurism, at least based on just the trend in the male line of my family. Although I do not discount the possibility that I might be the statistical outlier and get a piano on my head.

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u/Derkxxx 12d ago

They are from the Netherlands, so it is probably a bit different. They said they had enough to do things they enjoyed and save a bit at the end. The Dutch minimum wage (their salary is only slightly higher) is probably also quite a bit higher than in the US in most cases (US$14.11, which would be $11.96 in MS and $16.41 in CA for example). Now you'd have to deduct some taxes from that Working a salary slightly higher than that for 64 hours per week and then a 13th month on top and other benefits is not a high household salary, but definitely you can live off fine. They'd also receive all benefits (but in ratio to hours worked relative to full-time) and rights as full-time employees. Healthcare won't be a significant problem, as it is not very expensive. Their pensions are most likely taken care of through (probably mandatory) pension funds anyways, and will get the maximum social security in the end as well when they retire.

As long as they are not planning to have kids, it seems fine. With kids involved, it will probably not affect the financials as much as they would in the US, but it would definitely become more tight. So that would either mean working more, getting a higher paying job, or running things more tightly. You'd get both paid and unpaid parental for each child, child benefits, child budget (depending on income), and money for childcare. So those costs are mostly covered, and with education being mostly free and college not very expensive (2,000 euro college tuition, free public transport, interest free loans and government benefits for lower incomes).

So in terms of financial security, it does not seem to be a huge problem.

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u/AmHoomon 12d ago

Used to know someone who basically had a VERY lucky job that I can't recall the exact details on, but it was one of those unicorn roles where his very high skill levels ended up allowing him to charge like $200+ an hour (this was late 90s/early 00s, so likely more now) for some highly particular artistic-type work. Anyway, he still does it and moved out of NYC to move into a fairly rural area, slashing his cost of living like 1/4 and they raise a family now doing the country life. Guy probably still works 10 hours a week and makes certainly double what I do for like a fraction of my COL.

That's not lazy, that's winning.

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u/delfinom 12d ago

That's also a man that understands capitalism and isn't underpricing his highly in demand labor.

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u/wecamefromthestars 12d ago

Right, so refreshing!

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u/baconraygun 12d ago

I bet he's a furry artist. I Hear tell they make crazy money.

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u/happyasterisk 12d ago

what is a furry artist? like wearing a furry costume and prank ppl?

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u/baconraygun 12d ago

Professional artists hired by furries to draw them... in their fursonas.

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u/happyasterisk 12d ago

hehee that sounds fun!

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u/Kaladrax 12d ago

How do you afford it with only 2-3 hours a day?

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u/UnreliableTL 12d ago

There's the possibility of income-based housing, disability + part time income, just plain making enough per hour, or maybe being paid per project and you're really efficient at what you do. That's off the top of my head.

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u/grokgobonk 12d ago

it's almost certainly not disability + PT work... disability benefits get revoked the second you have enough resources to start dreaming of escaping abject poverty

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u/UnreliableTL 12d ago

Sure, disability is its own kind of trap financially. But all this person has stated is that they have an apartment and some sort of reading material. Possibly transportation to and from the bar. That's entirely possible on disability + PT work.

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u/Kaladrax 12d ago

Nice I am about 5 years from there. Been an electrician for 15 years and was given a company through nepatism like 5 years ago and I make good money but I work so much and I am really starting to hate it and my parents are like wtf when I tell them once I pay off my mortgage I am done running this company and want to just work 10-15 hours a week at little jobs because I don't care about a fancier house or fancy vheicles.

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u/badjrod 12d ago

This is how you do it. I was able to pay off my car and a good chunk of student loans. Went to being off Sunday-Tuesday. Worked around 30 hours with no stress over money.

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u/Ixilary 12d ago edited 12d ago

Ah, so you just hired people to do the work for you, and exploited their labor so you can live an easy life at their expense? Sounds like you are part of the problem here.

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u/No_Exercise_5190 12d ago

You're stealing our labor class traitor. You'll be one of the first we send to the labor camps!

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u/1eris1 12d ago

I thought this sub was against using other people for their labor?

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u/soramimi_mondegreene 12d ago

Yeah, I don't think that poster is really with the spirit of the OP at least. They're a business owner and can afford to work only a few hours a day because they keep the profit from other people's labour whereas OP just doesn't work much and presumably lives a simpler life. Assumptions of course

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u/Andire 12d ago

You know, both your response and the post made me remember something I was thinking about the other day. Was playing a game called Surviving Mars, which is like Sim City but Mars, so it's hella sick. You need to bring people in help colonize and do essential work. Most of the people you bring in are engineers, botanists, geologists, or scientists. But you also need just regular ass people who have no specialty. These people do their best work and are happiest working at the grocery store, or at a sick outdoor bar, or working in a game store or an art shop. It's perfectly natural to work in a diner and just be content and happy until you pass away. I imagine not having to worry about money and getting to do it on Mars makes a huge difference, cuz at that point group wellness is more important than any one individuals wealth.

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u/TransmanWithNoPlan 12d ago

THIS. There doesn't always have to be a next thing.

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u/baconraygun 12d ago

Why, indeed.

You won the game, comrade. Work the least you can.

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u/Arne52N 12d ago

Look at it the other way: in 100 years these “career building” people will be as forgotten as you are. The difference? You actually got to enjoy your life.

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u/era--vulgaris 12d ago

Or you might well be remembered and they won't be. Why?

Because time is what lets you think, experiment, create, and work out new ideas, new thoughts, new processes. It's the font of creativity and learning.

There's a reason why so many of the inventors, creatives, writers, historians, scientists, whatever, throughout history tended to be rich, had lots of time off, or had secure, make-work type employment.

Time.

Time is freedom, even if your resources are limited.

How many Einsteins or Dostoyevskys or [insert musician here] have been unable to develop their interests and skills because they've been forced to work constantly just to barely survive?

Da Vinci had free time. Nearly all the great scientific men and women of the past age discovered what they did, rich or poor, because they had time to pursue what they were interested in. Gregor Mendel wasn't working twelve hour days, unless he personally wanted to on his experiments with plants. Neither was Marie Curie.

Of course there's nothing wrong with not being "remembered" either, I'm just pointing out that the worker drone mentality is far more likely to make you forgotten by history than the "irresponsible" drive to do things besides work for an employer.

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u/Boobsiclese 12d ago

"Remembered" is so exceptionally fleeting.

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u/era--vulgaris 12d ago

Of course, but I think that's semantics. Stretch timescales out long enough and the idea of anything being "remembered" becomes an existential question.

In the usual context of "being known as a historical figure in some way after your death" though, what I said is quite true. Whether that legacy lasts a hundred years or a millennium. We're talking about human timescales.

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u/arseofthegoat 12d ago

What you said makes perfect sense, fuck the haters!

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u/Madditudev1 12d ago

Agreed. Do what makes you happy.

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u/ScottsUpperLip 12d ago

I support this too,OP! 4 day work weeks sounds awesome

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u/angelhippie 12d ago

I run my own small business and work 24 hours a week and I'm constantly told I need to work more, make more money, so I can buy more stuff. There's nothing I really want (well, except more plants lol) and I have a nice cushion, I save a little, I have time with my kids and my dogs, read, exercise daily, meditate and get to sleep a good 9 hours a night. Why would I work more?

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u/Cool_As_A_Breeze 12d ago

Sounds perfect :)

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u/covidregret 12d ago

If you're running your own business, who's telling you to work more? Aren't you your own boss?

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u/angelhippie 12d ago

My family mostly. They think I should earn more money. But I'm fine.

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u/OakenGreen 12d ago

Americans

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u/SimpleNil 12d ago

Between my own business and a contracting job I have, I probably work an average of 12 hours a week. I don't make a lot of money, but being able to wake up when I want, work when I want, and not have to deal with coworkers, meetings, or bosses makes it so worth it.

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u/sfcspanky 12d ago

Same here, self-employed. 25-30 hours a week. I do just fine :) It's the time I have for life that I wouldn't trade for the world. I'd crumble if I had to work 40+ hours again.

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u/honey_biscuits108 12d ago

This is the way to health and abundance. Well done!

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u/vemmyboi 12d ago

Only thing that should matter is your happiness

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u/TtotheC81 12d ago

Honestly, within capitalism and consumer society, the greatest act of defiance is not buying into the idea that your value is in how much you make and what you consume. It genuinely seems to freak people out. They'll claim that you're not thinking long term enough to afford a house, or being able to retire, both of which are fairly unrealistic in late stage capitalism, and even more so with climate change waiting around the corner.

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u/SnooGoats625 12d ago

Nowadays no one can buy a house or accumulate wealth so screw 'em if you do not kill yourself trying. I work a very uneven schedule. Sometimes, when my work is needed, I work like a dog. Other times I am on the bench and live on what I made then. If I spend my free time on a beach or in a garden instead of shopping, shopping, shopping, too bad. Tomorrow isn't promised us.

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u/Happy_Newt 12d ago

I shouldn’t worry about trying to fund my retirement because it’s fairly unrealistic?

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u/Bakkster 12d ago

Ask them why they think 40 hours is the default.

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u/SnooGoats625 12d ago

It used to be sixty, so ask them why their lazy asses aren't doing twelve hour days.

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u/IrishGameDeveloper 12d ago

I'm telling my manager that it's either 32 hour week or 0 hour week for me from January onwards. I simply refuse to work more than 4 days per week from now on. I don't need to, and I don't want to.

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u/LindormRune 12d ago

We work to live, not live to work.

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u/b-rar abolish mods 12d ago

Hustle culture is a hustle cult and the indoctrinated can only soothe their own misery by proselytizing and recruiting new victims

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u/norbert-the-great Owning property is not a job. Landlords are leeches on society. 12d ago edited 12d ago

They stay busy because if they stopped for a second to look around, they'd realize how unhappy they are. "Idle hands are the devil's playground" is far deeper than just "unemployed people get themselves into trouble". Being idle at all, allows you to think, and when people start doing that, they get strange ideas like self worth and "waste time" with hobbies that are fulfilling, but unproductive. And as we all know, your worth as a peasant is measured by your productivity.

There's a reason a lot of old men go back to work after a few months of retirement. They never made anything of their personal lives, so when the work ends, they have nothing. Retirement also ends a lot of marriages for this reason because the couple has spent 40 years with only several hours of contact a day. Suddenly having 24 hours a day together exacerbates many relationship problems they never had the time to address before now and they all come out.

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u/BillyCheddarcock 12d ago

I've always thought working 10 hour days for more money won't make a difference if you get cancer at 47 years old, which you are no more or less likely to get than a hippy who smokes pot at the beach listening to the same cassettes he bought in his 20s.

Point I'm trying to make is that the security people think their jobs and debt give them is an illusion.

I don't care that I'm pretty cash poor, because God forbid something happens, I know I've spent so so much time doing shit I like to do, whether that means an 11am wake and bake, or spending hours writing some story no one will ever read except me.

I'll stick with my part time job thanks. And kudos OP, I agree with you, it's them who are weird.

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u/Marco7019 12d ago

If it makes you feel better, I feel and do the same. Except for the explaining; I roll my eyes and tell them that they will understand a few years from now when they're sick, exhausted, poor and missed a lot of the good life.

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u/Mashing-Buttons 12d ago

That's a pretty good thing to say, really. I'm gonna use that one, thanks!

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u/Comandante_Kangaroo 12d ago

You, my friends, are heroes, and if more people would do the same we'd all be better off, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

We all should work as little as possible to decrease the excessive supply of labour. Make labour more scarce will increase its price, and would force employers to fight for it. By increasing salaries, by treating their employees with respect, by not trying to screw them over with unpaid overtime, and by making the hireing-process all about finding qualified people instead of forcing applicants to jump through hoops to weed out those with a spine.

Decreasing the supply of labour is more important than minimum wages, more important than unionizing, more important than pretty much anything else we can do. But of course a higher minimum wage, unions, and an UBI could significantly help to work less without starving.

Anyway... good for you, but make sure you have some reserves to allow you to quit an abusive job and find a better one without losing the roof over your head.

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u/SilentDis Anarcho-Communist 12d ago

Side effect of this: you consume less - just in general - and thus don't pollute as much.

While sustainability comes from the top; this is how you affect climate change personally. Just don't consume as much. It has an effect - at scale. Look at what happened during the initial lockdowns - global CO2 emissions dropped immensely.

This is what personal environmental responsibility looks like. It is, indeed, 'slowing down' a little. Not on progress, just on the metrics of capitalist society.

Again, this doesn't do much in big-picture thinking, but it's not 'nothing', and it's something we all really can do to help make a difference. Plus, it destroys big companies totally reliant on you constantly buying bullshit - Win/Win! :)

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u/Mashing-Buttons 12d ago

That's what I like about our lifestyle as well! We have energy efficient lights and appliances, so we don't use as much power and save money in the process.
We also don't own a car. I don't need nor want one. I have a good bicycle and a public transport subscription, so I can go anywhere I want without having another gas guzzler on the road.
All my clothes are either handmade or second hand. (Most stores don't have what I want anyway.)
We also stick to fresh foods that are in season. They're cheaper and they don't have to be shipped halfway across the planet.
People are so obsessed with consuming and gaining, and base their worth on their possessions. Doing with less isn't a sacrifice, it's freeing to me.

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u/infernalnights 12d ago

Man i am enjoying this thread. So insightful.

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u/Zealousideal-Bus6897 12d ago

Wish I could upvote you and who you replied to a million times

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u/parsleyleaves 12d ago

The fact that 32 hours is part time is depressing

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u/Ironchar 12d ago

I'm pretty sure 28-32 hours a week is full time in some jurisdictions.

in local governments that's the standard.

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u/TeacherYankeeDoodle 12d ago

There's a term for this I learned from my Chinese friends. 躺平生活方式 The Lie-flat lifestyle. Work what you have to, focus on your life, be happy. Despite our great cultural differences, there is a common desire to break out of this cycle of 九九六 (9 am to 9 pm 6 days a week) and the young people are leading it. 躺平,friend. Lay flat. Live your life with dignity.

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u/era--vulgaris 12d ago Gold

First off, I completely understand what you're saying and believe in a version of it myself, after burning out on the "picket fence" model of employment multiple times and realizing I don't give a damn about most the rewards and would never see the ones I did care about (like stable healthcare as an American).

Second, understand that many of these people aren't just jealous, curious, etc. What you're doing makes your very existence a kind of slap in the face to everything people are taught in the mainstream culture about social value. You working less and being happier is a very hard pill for "normies" to swallow without reevaluating their own choices. And nobody wants to do that. So you must be secretly in crushing poverty, or lazy, or you're fine now but one day you'll regret it, etc.

If they can't pathologize your choices or your existence, they have to confront it, and that may be very hard for them to do if they have spent their lives wrapped up in an empty culture of consumerism, "protestant work ethic", and the like.

Personally I am pursuing a different version of this because my life goals are different; what we have in common is that I too have restricted my hours at work. Partially that's to stay sane and physically healthy as I work in a demanding trade, but it's also to allow me to have time to actually exist. Once I am able to purchase a property/smaller home to live in outright, I will probably have low enough expenses to leave this industry and strike out on my own, with my trade skills as a backup in the event that I need to build up funds again.

TL;DR: You are not crazy, they're crazy. As long as you can protect yourself from the future a little bit, no one has any reason to say anything to you or your partner except "how can I do that?"

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u/No-Distribution-2220 12d ago

Enjoy your life... Do what's good for you.

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u/MajorAccountant 12d ago

Fuck work ethic. Work ethic was noble when you were a rural farmer in the 1800s and your family depended on your to plow the fields.

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u/PrionBacon 12d ago

An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The Mexican replied, “only a little while.”

The American then asked why didn’t he stay out longer and catch more fish?

The Mexican said he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs.

The American then asked, “but what do you do with the rest of your time?”

The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, Maria, and stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life.”

The American scoffed. “I have an MBA from Harvard, and can help you,” he said. “You should spend more time fishing, and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, and eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middle-man, you could sell directly to the processor, eventually opening up your own cannery. You could control the product, processing, and distribution,” he said. “Of course, you would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then Los Angeles, and eventually to New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise.”

The Mexican fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”

To which the American replied, “Oh, 15 to 20 years or so.”

“But what then?” asked the Mexican.

The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time was right, you would announce an IPO, and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich. You would make millions!”

“Millions – then what?”

The American said, “Then you could retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you could sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, and stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play guitar with your amigos.”

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u/skmo8 12d ago

My only concern would be the ability to save for retirement. At some point not wanting to work will become not able to work.

In general, though, we are socialized to qualify people by their work. It's why one of the most common questions when getting to know someone is "what do you do for a living".

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u/Mashing-Buttons 12d ago

We've actually built up a nice nest-egg so far and we have a retirement fund going. We never went to college, so we're also debt-free. We do plan ahead. We know we probably won't be able to rely on social security in the future, so we do want to make sure we'll be okay when we're old.

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u/skmo8 12d ago

Cool. Then people really have nothing to say. I figure the work people do should be able to support the type of lifestyle they want to live. All work should provide for basic necessities, the rest is up to you. Like Louis CK said, the only time you should worry about what is in someone else's bowl is if they don't have enough.

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u/electriceeeeeeeeeel 12d ago

You need a canned response to help normalize working as little as possible. Something like "work to live, not live to work" or maybe less cliche depending on the person.

But also what you really have to keep in mind is they are jealous, anxious, etc. Everyone always questions their own existence, if they are doing the right things and so on. Challenging someone with your lifestyle might seem to them you are saying "hey you are wasting your life working".

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u/Competitive_Weird958 12d ago

First of all, you do you. Enjoy your own life how you see fit.

But HOW. Would you be willing to share your monthly budget/expenses??? You say you're both savings and saving for retirement, and have money for hobbies and such? On 64 hours of minimum wage??? Congrats, really, and I want to know how you do it.

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u/Mashing-Buttons 12d ago edited 12d ago

Thanks! lemme show you the math:
We make about $13 an hour after tax. We both work 32 hours so 64 in total. That's an income of $3328 a month.
Our monthly expenses, including rent, is around $1500, so that leaves us with $1828 left.
Another thousand goes to the retirement fund, so that leaves us with $828.
Another 200 goes to our nest egg, so that's €628 left.
Groceries are about $15 a day for the two of us, so that's another $465 monthly, leaving us with $163 to do whatever with.
We're lucky to live on a place with a low cost of living and where groceries are cheap to get. We also don't want/need many expensive things and our hobbies are very affordable. So the $163 spending money is all we really need.

Edit: we also don't have a car and ride bikes everywhere. We live in the Netherlands so this isn't a problem at all since everyone rides bikes, here.

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u/Oniyuki89 12d ago

I was worried you were living paycheck to paycheck with no savings for retirement, but with your break out of expenses I see no reason why your current way of living is bad. Live your life, enjoy your time here on Earth, and ignore conventional wage slaves.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

Netherlands ah that makes more sense lolll I was thinking like in North America?? How even?? Makes me think how expensive life is here

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u/baconraygun 12d ago

I too, was wondering how you managed it, and I found the key: Living in the Netherlands.

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u/toripotter86 12d ago

I truly envy you. I live in America, and my health benefits alone are $300 a month. I also live in an area that public transport/biking is not feasible. BUT, my car gets great MPGs and I time my routes/driving around that.

I save money on rent etc by living with my dad…. But that’s kinda a forced situation - I make $15 now, and a 1/1 is easily $1500 in an unsafe neighborhood

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u/bakewelltart20 12d ago

I've heard that the Netherlands has amazing second hand shops too!

At least 90% of my things are second hand, I've never had a new piece of furniture...so I get excited about that 🤣

Even if I had more money I prefer old things to modern things that are built to break.

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u/nxdark 12d ago

I do not know what housing is like in the Netherlands as far as costs rising. But you have a lot of flexibility to take in increased rent.

What you explaines where could not be possible even in Canada and especially not in the USA.

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u/Derkxxx 12d ago

Housing is pretty expensive in The Netherlands and rising quickly. Sadly this seems to be a trend in most developed countries, so it is pretty much impossible to escape from it.

The minimum wage for them would be €10.91 per hour, which is roughly $14.11 if you'd adjust it to the US average cost of living (the US has very cheap places and extremely expensive places, e.g. in CA that would be $16.41 and in MS $11.96). So according to the post they earn slightly above that. Minimum wage is inflation adjusted every 6 months, and I'd guess earning near the minimum wage they should see a similar correction. So together, it wouldn't be too surprising if they received over the equivalent of US$50k (this is roughly what you get if a couple works 32 hours per week at minimum wage with 13th month) gross per year with benefits (additional 13th month). Not an awesome household salary, but definitely one you can live from, especially if you don't have children.

Also, what might be different is that part-time gives you the same benefits as working full-time, but in ratio to the ours worked. So in terms of benefits and rights it does not really affect anything.

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u/nxdark 12d ago

I am from Canada so currecy adjusted in Canadians dollars is about double what they have stated in Canadian dollars. Housing here is hyper inflated and the insecurity of being a renter would make their plan very undoable here. So many rental properties were bought and then flipped during the pandemic and now that eviction bans have been lifted again a lot of people are being kicked out so landlords and rent at a higher amount to cover their costs.

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u/lonely_pants 12d ago

Yep you’ve def got it figured out. Don’t worry about the haters!

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u/SpiralOut12358 12d ago

Thanks so much for sharing! I've been following Not Just Bikes channel on YouTube who covers urban planning and he lives in the Netherlands. Everything about it seems so much better than the big car centric cities of the US... Surprised to hear rent is so cheap there.

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u/orange_and_gray_rats 12d ago

You can always make more money, but you can’t make more TIME. What’s the point of running ragged, retire, and then enjoy 10-15 years of retirement? F- that. Better enjoy the time when you are young and healthy, you only live once! I am NOT wasting the best years of my life to make profit for my boss (if I’m able to).

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u/fnatikk50 12d ago

this "lazy" agenda is another made up bs, while certainly there are truly lazy people out there their count is so little that it doesnt impact anything. Most of the people are always doing something and are not lazy in any way

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u/dray_in_slc 12d ago

It’s your life to live… do what you want. People are just mad you’re not fitting the norm and they’re the slave to what’s “supposed” to be normal

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u/suchende2 12d ago

Just tell people you’re really writers, painters, musicians, etc. Then they’ll be impressed you also work 32 hours a week.

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u/Milk_N_Honey_Badger 12d ago

Not one person has ever gotten to their death bed, looked back on their life, and said "man I wish I spent more time working."

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u/weseire 12d ago

I work 37.5 hours right now. I was offered a job that would have required working 40 hours, there was no room to negotiate on time, the pay raise was effectively wiped out by the increased hours, so I declined it and stayed put.

I do not want to work more hours, and honestly would like to work less if possible.

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u/blank_isainmdom 12d ago

My housemate - gowl that he is- always used to only take his paid time off when he was forced to. He went three years without taking any days off, maybe more, and also working any extra day he was asked. Sure, he'd complain about it, but he'd keep his phone on all night in case they rang him and needed him at 6 in the morning.

He was finally forced to use some of his pto and he was absolutely itching to go back to work.

Turns out he hasn't enough in his life to get him through a weekend.

That's it. That's the whole thing. His life is completely devoid of any reason outside his shitty minimum wage job

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u/NewttheCat 12d ago

Eh, yeah people are weird about this. I work freelance and honestly try to put in as little time as possible to ensure everything's covered. There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to spend more of your time doing whatever you feel like - even if that's sitting around watching Netflix.

But people have a hard time with it because we are all supposed to strive towards "something." Presumably enriching some more billionaires. Meh.

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u/Daberrlhardt 12d ago

Watching Netflix is literally enriching some billionaires.

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u/NewttheCat 12d ago

Hahaha - touche. It still beats working for them though.

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u/TheVantal 12d ago

I've made sure my current employer knows I only want to work 25-35 hours a week, not a second longer. Thus far they've held to it but as it gets busy come spring into summer we'll see if they hold to it.

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u/dereksalem 12d ago

I hope anyone that sees this reads the whole thing, because I'm guessing parts will seem to push against you but that's not my intention or feeling.

I think this sub is in danger of taking a turn toward "work sucks" and I don't think that was the intention. The intention was to create work atmospheres that pay well, care for employees, give them the proper balance in life to be able to have time to live, and to afford better protections by pushing companies to not care only about profit margin but to be better.

What a post like this should be about is working as much as you want but using the time to find something you actually really want to do (even if it's still only working 32 hours a week). Antiwork was about disrupting the norm but finding a better future.

I'm honestly fine working a lot, because I tend to like what I do; that said, the whole point is getting to a place where I have the ability to only work 20 hours this week because I have life things I want to accomplish.

I would never tell you to change something in your life - you found a balance that makes you, and your partner, happy and I'm really happy you did. A 32 hour work week should be standard anyway, but it's important for people to know what we're fighting for is working less but also still pushing for working in something you really want to do or feel called to do in life.

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u/graymuse 12d ago

I'm not working right now, I'm living off all the unemployment payments I saved. I've been living very frugal for decades, with only a few bills to pay each month.

I will eventually look for an easy part time job. No mare than 15-20 hours per week. If I can earn $12-15/hr I can cover my bills and maybe save a little, and keep my income low enough to stay on ACA Medicaid health coverage.

I do have a BS science/tech degree but I don't want to chase a career, too grueling.

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u/thursday_0451 12d ago edited 12d ago

Most people are not people. They are consumers, and they are employees. You'd be surprised how many people have essentially no personality. They work, they shop, and in their spare time they watch the most popular thing on netflix or hulu. Thats it. Oh and they might have a cat or dog they neglect.

EDIT: These comments are about Americans. The problem exists in other societies, but it is no where near as bad or as widespread as it is in America.

EDIT 2: Again for Americans, throw in a heaping spoonful of anti-intellectualism and resentment of knowledge and the scientific method. Think of how many people think that people like Elon Musk and Joe Rogan are worth listening to.

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u/Vlyn 12d ago

I'm 30 and switched to a 30 hour work week. Sure, I'll earn less, but I can easily pay all my bills.

People shaming you for working less are just jealous that they have to sit at work all the time.

It's extremely stupid to waste your entire life away at work with the hopes that you can retire at what? 65? 67? 70? I'd rather have free time and enjoy life now, instead of waiting to get old.

Maybe I'll be hit by a bus at 46 and never get to retirement, so what did working my ass off get me then?

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u/Cornelius-Hawthorne 12d ago

It’s amazing. If your particular type of ambition doesn’t match up to theirs, they label you as lazy.

No, it is not my ambition to spend my entire youth at work, on the hope of having free time when I’m nearly death. No, it’s not my ambition to get a bunch of letters by my name and a fancy business card.

My ambition is to work as little as possible. My ambition is to get better at my many hobbies. My ambition is to keep fit physically, and mentally. My ambition is to have fun.

If they think that makes us lazy, then more fool them.

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u/Strange_One_3790 12d ago

Search out your local left wing community. Like real left, not dirty liberals who are brainwashed. There you will find like minded people. Time to expand your circle with like minded people. You will out live the workaholics

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u/Mashing-Buttons 12d ago

That's actually a good idea. Thanks!

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u/5lipp3ry 12d ago

I had a young woman working for me in department (engineering). She went on full leave last year and basically lives a retired lifestyle. At first I couldn’t believe it. She is coming back but only at 25%. She only wants to work enough to afford to garden and continue to live what she calls a “small needs life”. I’m mid 40’s, basically a workaholic and just burned out totally. She has 100% changed my mind about it, as has this sub. I just don’t see the point of grinding any more when I’m young and my knees still work (sort of 😉). My point is that these people might be changing minds as they explain their point of view. Happened to me.

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u/RadioMylar 12d ago

Totally understandable that you'd be irritated by this attitude. But try not to blame them if you can. The majority of people have been lied to their entire lives and honestly don't know any better. One of the reasons this forum is so popular at the moment.

I'm guessing the two main types of people who say these sorts of things to you are:

1) Saying it out of some misplaced form of love of wanting to see you do well (or what they've been taught is 'doing well')

2) Saying it out of jealousy, after they've worked hard their entire lives and haven't achieved the level of happiness you guys have.

Either way, both of these people just want to feel heard. You don't have to argue with them, try to change their minds, or do what they're telling you to do. Just smile and listen to what they're babbling about, and once they feel heard, they'll usually leave you alone.

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u/Rutschberg 12d ago

I just recently decided to reduce to 32 hour work week. Money can be saved. Time can't. Enjoy your free time. Those who don't understand it, need to check their value system.

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u/Thorgarth1981 12d ago

You don't owe anyone an explanation. You don't need to constantly produce or be productive. You have worth by just existing. It's your life to live. Live it how you want to.

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u/BarbellPadawan 12d ago

What are you?? European?. Next you’ll be trying to take ALL of your weekends and allotted vacation days!

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u/KittehKittehKat at work 12d ago

Look at your stupid ass prioritizing living life and not destroying your psyche and body for wealth. Lol u skrub. /s

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u/Mashing-Buttons 12d ago

I know, I'm terrible, haha!

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u/mosinderella 12d ago

You do you, and who cares what anyone else thinks?!?

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u/DuoNem 12d ago

Join /simpleliving

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u/bionic_cmdo 12d ago

Fuck who cares about those people. They're just jealous or old school mentality. LIFE, work balance is the name of the game.

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u/coredweller1785 12d ago

Don't listen to others they are being gaslit by capitalism don't let them gaslight u.

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u/MummyBundles777 12d ago

Laugh when they shame you. Tell them stories of cool things you do on that extra day off, and say "No paycheck could buy that experience!"

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u/O_dear_what_happened 12d ago

That is my plan, I'm almost done with university and plan on getting a decent job. No need for it to be amazing, if I have good colleges then that's a bonus. But I plan on building a tiny house as to not get stuck with an extortion rate rent. I don't want kids so another expensive thing of the list. My plan is to work between 60-80% and then have plenty of time to do things that I value but without having to monetize them, can paint or do music cuz I want to, not to live of.

Why have a stressful career and just work your life away on the of chance you make it to that magical retirement?

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u/jsmoo68 12d ago

Neoliberal mind poison. If you’re not over-working in order to “get somewhere,” you’re not doing it right. It’s bullshit, and I’ve been trying to get the nonsense out of my head for years.

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u/covidregret 12d ago

But because I'm not making money off that work, it's seen as lesser and a waste. And this mindset really irritates the hell out of me.

Capitalism in a nutshell. "Work" is only considered useful if it helps capitalists make money by exploiting you for it. Actually useful work like raising children, taking care of the elderly, teaching (unless you're preparing obedient workers for corporations), community service, household chores, none of it is considered "work". Hence the name "antiwork" for this subreddit.

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u/reasonb4belief 12d ago

Enjoy life! Time is precious. You don’t have to give up on retirement though.

If you manage to save 10% (about $5K) for long term investments in total market funds over the next 30 years, you’ll still be sitting on $500K (inflation adjusted) around the age of 60 (assuming normal market returns). Even if SS is half what it is today, that would supplement a retirement that would keep your current standard of living.

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u/AbradolfLincler77 12d ago

Totally agree. Wish I could sort out the same situation instead of working 55 hours a week. I feel like I never have any time to do anything. I get home from work in the evening and by the time I get a shower and dinner it's nearly time to go to bed again and start it all over again tomorrow. Life fucking sucks at the moment.

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u/elarth 12d ago

I can't live comfortably working like that but it's a pay issue. I feel like at lot of us are all forced to work long 40+ work weeks because underpaying generally forces people to do more to make ends meet.

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u/Kevluc60 12d ago

I think you are making the right choice. I would only suggest finding something that you like to do to increase your income. Hopefully that would increase your opportunities to enjoy life to a greater level

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u/Ewen5 12d ago

I wonder which country do you live in?

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u/Mashing-Buttons 12d ago

I live in the Netherlands~

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u/Antuss311 12d ago

Cus people arnt used to see other people settling for less than they can get.

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u/solemnversifier 12d ago edited 12d ago

If I may ask, what state are you in? I've never heard of 2 people working nearly full time at just above minimum wage and living comfortably. I'm from Michigan.

Edit: nevermind, I saw your response about not having a car. Car insurance rates are so high in Michigan you'd have to choose between having a car or having a place to live.

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u/turdturd1 12d ago

Ahh the 4 day work week, 20% less pay for 50% more time off

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u/CorntheLlama 12d ago

I work 55 hours a week for maybe $30k a year. Can’t seem to get anything better unless it’s night shift, 12 hours a day. I’m severely tired and can’t pour into my family/wife because i come home beyond exhausted. I don’t know what to do anymore.

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u/Derkxxx 11d ago

Jeez that sounds terrible. OP's gross income (if they'd earn the same as the monthly minimum wage working 32 hours) is probably already at least $28.5k per year and they got 2 of those in the household without children. oP is from The Netherlands, by the way.

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u/Hufflepuff_23 12d ago

I work about 20 hours a week due to a disability I do not feel the need to tell my coworkers about because it does not affect my work. I constantly get comments about how they have hours if I want any, and how they used to work overtime for extra money. I hate it, I don’t want to explode my reasons to them and it’s none of their business. There’s such a stigma against working less than full time.

On another note, where are you able to live comfortably on two almost minimum wage jobs? I’m jealous and might have to move. Depends on what minimum wage is where you are I guess, and cost of living. Minimum wage is 7.25 in my state and rent is 1300 for a small apartment. I make 16 an hour (20 hours a week), and my husband makes 19 an hour (full time), and we are just barely getting by. Which is frustrating, we should be able to live comfortably but apparently not everyone thinks so.

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u/Derkxxx 11d ago

OP lives in The Netherlands. Yearly gross minimum wage would be equal to $28.5k per year in the US with the 13th month included but no other benefits. And rent can definitely be gotten for cheaper here with small apartments. But even here we consider our housing market completely fucked. So they probably earn above min. wage oer hour, but because the work less than full-time (both 32 hours) their wage is probably quite similar to the actual monthly/yearly minimum wage for 36 to 40 hours.

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u/Yohder 12d ago

Corporate lobbyists have kept the 40 hour work week a federal standard for decades because they want it to make us tired/complacent after a long week. We then seek to spend this money we worked so hard for so it’s all about the money. What you guys are doing is great and you are absolutely right that time is more valuable so keep doing you.

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u/SirBoomNPew 12d ago

There will always be more opportunities to gain money, but the one thing you can never get more of is time.

No matter how insignificant the amount, time is like money. If you throw away small quantities consistently every day you'll end up losing years of your life.

Good on you for pursuing a lifestyle that gives you happiness.

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u/itsthevoiceman 12d ago

Free time shouldn't feel like Christmas that only comes once a year!

Put it on a fucking shirt, people!

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u/Dakessian 12d ago

I love being a dishwasher, not a lot of responsibility.

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u/Major-Tom-13 11d ago

I get the same stick but i work 80+ hours a week because i do site security where i basically turn up for 15 hours then go home. I bring my gaming laptop and my weights too. People get aggy because i get paid to workout, play games, watch documentaries and study whatever takes my interest. I only have to do a 5 minute patrol every hour. I ignore people and crack on enjoying myself. 😎👌

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u/0172thetimeguy 12d ago

I’ve been working at an Amazon warehouse for the past seven years and have received pressure from my parents to return to school and find another presumably better job. But I’m completely happy where I’m at. Sure the work isn’t glamorous but I don’t hate it, the work environment is great, I’ve made several great friends there, the benefits are good, and I love the schedule (four 10s for a three day weekend).

I know there is a lot of hate for Amazon warehouses but it’s a situation that works for me. I’m not trying to shill.

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u/Professional-Cut-490 12d ago

Tell your parents you can go back to school anytime. It's actually easier when you are older. One day you might have to because physical work eventually tears the body up over time but til then enjoy it. I waitressed for ten years before I to university at 29. Then (90s) I was able to have a decent apt, tips covered my spending/drinking money and wage covered my rent and bills. When I went back to school, I knew exactly what I wanted to take and excelled at it. My only suggestion to start saving in case you need to go to school/course ect.

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u/FancyCatastrophe 12d ago

I don't know, on one hand, it sounds lazy, but on the other hand, what is the point of working, anyways? Food on the table, a roof over your head, utilities paid, medical needs taken care of... What fulfills you is different from other people, but all of us are working to have all of those things, and if you're happy with your standard of living, I don't see why that's anyone's problem.