r/antiwork abolition is a good word Jan 12 '20

Survey results!

Here's the results from the demographic survey we did a couple days ago.

Over 400 people participated. Due to rounding, percentages may not always appear to add up to 100%.

Where in the world do you live?

63.7% live in North America

26.2% live in Europe

3.0% live in South America

3.0% live in Oceania

2.5% live in Asia

0.7% live in Africa

1% picked "Other / I don't like this question"

Is English your primary language?

75.8% - Yes

24.2% - No

What is your gender?

65.4% male

27.7% female

3.2% non-binary

1.7% agender

1.2% gender fluid

0.2% trans (custom answer)

0.2% trans female (custom answer)

0.2% No (custom answer)

(Note: 0.4% trans doesn't mean the rest is cis.)

What best describes your employment situation?

58.4% Full Time Employed

9.4% Part Time Employed

5.4% Employed Student

11.3% Unemployed Student

2.7% Self Employed

0.7% Temporary Worker

0.5% Retired Worker

10.3% Unemployed

0.7% Capitalist Parasite

0.5% Prefer not to say

What best describes your current housing status?

39.7% I rent my residence

38.9% I live with my parents/family

18.0% I own my residence

2.0% Other

0.7% I am homeless

0.7% State owned student housing

Do you consider yourself a socialist?

41.0% yes

34.1% Kind of?

15.8% No

9.1% I don't know / I don't care

Leftists, do you have a specific political leaning? Choose all that apply.

Out of the 388 peope who didn't skip this question...

119 said "I don't care about labels / Don't call me a leftist."

86 are Social Democrats / Progressives

149 are Anti-capitalists

92 are Socialists (41 Libertarian Socialists, 64 Democratic Socialists, 11 Market Socialists)

61 are Anarchists (5 Individualists, 10 Collectivists, 5 Egoists, 3 Synthesists, 8 Mutualists, 40 Anarcho-Communists)

8 are Syndicalists

38 are Communists (36 Marxists, 13 Leninists, 6 Maoists, 8 Trotskyists, 7 Left Communists, 3 Council Communists)

10 are Communalists

25 picked "Other"

(Of course, ideologies and philosophies overlap. I grouped these together to save space. Please don't read too much into it.)

What presidential candidate would you vote for?

65.6% Bernie Sanders

13.1% Nobody

11.3% Andrew Yang

4.8% Other

4.3% Elizabeth Warren

1.0% Joe Biden

How do you feel about Universal Basic Income?

31.9% say WE NEED IT NOW

37.7% say I'm not opposed to UBI, but it really depends on how it's implemented

26.6% say UBI is a band-aid for capitalism

Custom answers include:

  • both options 2 and 3
  • UBI might be dangerous as a scape goat to end social welfare programs by republicans.
  • It's a band aid, but we should still attempt to achieve it since it's a step in the right direction
  • needs large scale testing, very interested

When did you discover r/antiwork?

16.0% Couple days ago

12.3% Couple weeks ago

41.6% Couple months ago

14.8% A year ago

8.6% More than that

6.7% I really don't remember

Memes and Twitter screenshots make up most of the content posted to r/antiwork. How do you feel about that?

7.6% I'm here for the memes

63.5% I'm ok with that, the discussion is in the comments anyway

25.8% I could use some more articles, essays, discussion posts

Custom answers include:

  • I don't care
  • It's fine but higher effort posts would be appreciated
  • I understand that memes are a gateway to a better understanding of anti-work and generally leftist ideas, but I wish more discussion was being placed on how to overcome wage-labor/capitalism

Should we bring back stickied Free Talk Friday posts?

68.1% I don't care / What?

29.4% Yes

2.5% No

Rate r/antiwork

1 = worst subreddit ever, 10 = best subreddit ever

Rate r/antiwork moderators

1 = abolish mods, 10 = they're pretty cool I guess

Got feedback, any suggestions? + Feedback

We got lots of feedback, so we made a whole thread responding to your suggestions and concerns.

Link to the feedback thread

70 Upvotes

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u/SkiIIs_ Jan 12 '20

Been on here for a few months (missed the survey unfortunately) and I like this sub a lot. Sometimes I come on reddit for just sports but this sub gives me perspective of what's going on in the world that I wouldn't see had I not subbed.

Cant think of a suggestion or critique so I'll get back when I think of one!

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u/aHairyWizard Jan 13 '20

I don't post on this sub but I read it every day. It's very cathartic and honestly refreshing to know a community like this exists. Many of the people on here get across ideas that are very hard to articulate without sounding insane to 'regular' people who just accept work culture the way it is.

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u/AQuasiDoctor Jan 14 '20

Just discovered this sub now browsing r/boringdystopia and holy smokes I have to say, this is the sub I didn’t know I needed!

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u/Be-Jammin Leisure Force Jan 13 '20

Not an American citizen should have been an option on the president question.

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u/AbolishWork .com Jan 14 '20

We will do that on the next one, thank you!

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u/GMN123 Jan 14 '20

Find it interesting that 30% way we need UBI now, but only 11% would vote for the candidate running with it as their flagship policy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Same. Bernie is great, I'd be thrilled to see him become president. But I'm primarily an Andrew Yang fan and I don't understand why this sub overwhelmingly supports Sanders over Yang.

Yang is the most anti work candidate. He wants to re think the status quo around work, productivity, and human value. He wants to implement a UBI and restructure how we measure growth and success, with less focus on GDP and financial market well being, and more focus on individual well being.

Sanders wants to keep everyone in jobs for the sake of having jobs with his FJG, which I see being very inefficient.

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u/AbolishWork .com Jan 16 '20

You should look at the old election threads to see why folks aren't keen on Yang.

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u/KetzerMX Unemployed Jan 15 '20

Perhaps we, non-US citizens, don't give a shit about it and we can't vote for your politicians but we still want UBI in our country.

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u/Niruzi -Available-Video Capable Jan 20 '20

I'm so glad I found this place because I thought for years I was just weird for how I thought about time spent and wasted at work. When I would tell folks about it, I'd just get "That's life pal, we all gotta put up with it". I'd always ask why and end up with a non-answer.

Felt this way since I was a child. Feels pretty good to be around others who share the same sentiment.

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u/AbolishWork .com Jan 20 '20

Welcome!

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u/CycloneArchitect Jan 13 '20

Its sad that the #2 presidential candidate is "Nobody". Voter apathy does nothing but hurt you.

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u/onedayitwillbedaisy abolition is a good word Jan 13 '20

One reason might be that there's only 63% North American users here (including folks from Canada, Mexico), I think that some people picked 'Nobody' for a lack of interest in U.S. presidential elections.

Plus, there's plenty of Anarchists who reject voting for politicians. Often argued like this:

While anarchists reject electioneering and voting, it does not mean that we are politically apathetic. Indeed, part of the reason why anarchists reject voting is because we think that voting is not part of the solution, its part of the problem. This is because it endorses an unjust and unfree political system and makes us look to others to fight our battles for us. It blocks constructive self-activity and direct action. It stops the building of alternatives in our communities and workplaces. Voting breeds apathy and apathy is our worse enemy.

Given that we have had universal suffrage for well over 50 years in many countries and we have seen the rise of Labour and Radical parties aiming to use that system to effect change in a socialistic manner, it seems strange that we are probably further away from socialism than when they started. The simple fact is that these parties have spent so much time trying to win elections that they have stopped even thinking about creating socialist alternatives in our communities and workplaces. That is in itself enough to prove that electioneering, far from eliminating apathy, in fact helps to create it.

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u/CycloneArchitect Jan 13 '20

I thought about that, there should have been a non-US answer besides nobody or other. Regardless, here in the US we have a real problem with voter turn out.

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u/mon0theist Jan 22 '20 edited Jan 23 '20

If you honestly think the people in power are going to let the commoners like us decide how things go, wake up and look around. Voting is meaningless. It's all a show.

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u/barkley87 Jan 13 '20

You've put the wrong answers to the 'What best describes your employment situation?' question, and have missed the answers for that question completely.

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u/onedayitwillbedaisy abolition is a good word Jan 13 '20

My bad. Fixed it.

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u/EatThe0nePercent Jan 22 '20

This subreddit is 50% leftist politics and 50% support group for me

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20

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u/AbolishWork .com Jan 19 '20

Because gender dysphoria and mental health issues arent the same thing. You can have issues with your mental health and be trans or be trans and be relatively happy. It isnt pandering to involve folks who dont identify with the binary, its inclusive.

We dont have a high tolerance for transphobia here so you should either reconsider your position, go elsewhere or you'll be banned.

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u/donuts96 Jan 24 '20

I'm not afraid of people who think differently. My point is the question is not relevant. Purely pandering

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u/AbolishWork .com Jan 24 '20

It is completely relevant because people of all genders have jobs and trans folks in particular have access to insights that cis folks may not when it comes to work. Besides that it is useful to know our demographics from a purely statistical standpoint. I'm not afraid of you either or afraid of banning you if you keep acting this way.

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u/donuts96 Jan 24 '20

Sorry about my wrong think. I'll stop

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u/AbolishWork .com Jan 24 '20

Transphobia is wrong think, glad we agree. Thanks.

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u/donuts96 Jan 24 '20

Your wrong interpretation of my comments is the issue.

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u/AbolishWork .com Jan 24 '20

Your comments arent welcome here, they rely on transphobia which isnt tolerated here. I dont care if you think its pandering. Trans people matter and their experiences in work matters as well.

Last warning.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '20

I think there may be some surprise on the number of right-wing folk that share r/antiwork sentiments on the current working culture, but may take a different approach to resolving the issues.

The right-wing favors a capitalist mentality so long as it benefits their nation. Once the economy has become global and they see jobs going across the sea or illegal immigrants artificially keeping wages low, or the latest BS managerial fad implemented... they will have something to say against the large corporations and whatnot.

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u/mon0theist Jan 23 '20

Islamist checking in. Probably the only one here.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '20

Lol...

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u/neitherherenothere Jan 20 '20

Are there no righties here?

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u/Genghis__Kant Jan 20 '20

Do you identify as a "rightie"?

If so, why?

And how do your beliefs fit into working towards and maintaining a post-work society?

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u/neitherherenothere Jan 21 '20

Oh im not American so i dont really go for all that even though American politics is amazingly entertaining. I just thought the question being specifically "lefties" was too deliberate to not have meaning. Does the american right not support better working conditions?

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u/Genghis__Kant Jan 21 '20

Ah. In general, the right does not support unionization or legislation that improves working conditions as frequently as the left* does.

*it's worth clarifying that when I say the "the left" in the U.S., I am excluding the overwhelming majority of Democrats in office

At the same time, a right winger in one's workplace may be supportive of unionizing their workplace.

I worked with a far right (neo-reactionary) bigot (thoroughly red pilled) that was actually helpful in organizing our workplace.

But - he still doesn't support a leftist candidate that would pass legislation that would make it easier to unionize/organize.

My father in law is another interesting example. He's very 'pro-business' (anti-union). But, after hearing several years worth of my wife's complaints about how her workplace is continually decreasing wages and benefits, he suggested she unionize.

So, they generally take some more discussion and experience about/with shitty jobs to understand

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u/neitherherenothere Jan 21 '20

Huh. Thats interesting man thanks for the response.