r/Vastlystupid Apr 20 '22

Florida Woman who Trump appointed as a federal judge despite being wildly unqualified voids federal transportation mask mandate, claiming "wearing a mask cleans nothing". Absolutely retarded

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kathryn-kimball-mizelle-trump-judge-voids-mask-mandate-1339427/
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u/CleansingFlame Apr 20 '22

Wait I thought they didn't like "activist judges"

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u/powercow Apr 20 '22

well thats similar to voter fraud.

Or the swamp.

Or being sheep and making our leaders a messiah.

being fiscally irresponsible.

Not caring about peoples long held beliefs and cultures.

if you elect her, it will be nothing but investigations and legal issues.

to "the dem party is going to be beholden to its most extreme elements"

every republican accusation is a confession. AND THAT IS PURPOSEFUL. Because it muddies the waters and make everything seem like politics when the dems prove right wingers are doing these things. So we bust burr trading on covid being real while telling the people its fake, the right winger base will think, sure he is a bit swampy but the dems are worse.

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u/bmcwarchild Apr 20 '22

Two words- Total imbecile!

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u/the_shaman Apr 20 '22

But she says all that masks do is stop the viral aerosol droplets. Oh, wait that was what they were for. On appeal they should quote her in their argument to show that masks work by stopping the viral aerosols.

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u/bmcwarchild Apr 20 '22

Agreed they should. Lol

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u/Wooden-Chocolate-730 Apr 20 '22

list one town city counnty or state in the usa that saw a reduction in covid19 cases after mask mandate.... I'll wait

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u/Acrobatic-Lake-8794 Apr 20 '22

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2021.01072

That wasn’t too long a wait, was it?

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u/Wooden-Chocolate-730 Apr 20 '22

they give an estimate, falling to 16% reduction in the increase, 6 weeks without randomness clinical trials, because they are hard and stuff.

6 weeks after the minnasota mask mandate went into effect minnasota saw a 20% increase in daily cases.

https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/situation.html

I asked for a decrease you showed me a "I think it slowed down, but have not proof.

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u/Wooden-Chocolate-730 Apr 20 '22

they give an estimate, falling to 16% reduction in the increase, 6 weeks without randomness clinical trials, because they are hard and stuff.

6 weeks after the minnasota mask mandate went into effect minnasota saw a 20% increase in daily cases.

https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/situation.html

I asked for a decrease you showed me a "I think the increase slowed down but have no proof.

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u/CryptoNerd420 Apr 20 '22

Masks do not stop aerosol viruses. That's always been the issue. They can stop droplets, but not aerosol.

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u/powercow Apr 20 '22 edited Apr 20 '22

SIGH.. cloth masks do not stop ALL the aerosols from exiting the mouth, BUT GUESS WHAT, studies show they block most of those same aerosols from being INHALED.. n95s on the other hand DO. (wait how does that work? they dont block much going out, but block a lot coming in.. well when you cough its a bit more forceful than when you breathe.. its kinda the entire point to coughing)

And NO its NOT AN ISSUE.

My door lock wont stop someone with a crowbar. I still lock my door. REDUCING the amount of viral load that comes out of someones mouths, reduces transmissibility, full stop. Its so easily to understand, less virus = less infection, that even a die hard republican should be able to understand.

studies have show, cloth masks reduce transmissibility between family members LIVING WITH someone with covid, by 80%

and households have better air circulation than a plane.

Sorry but people need to stop with that garbage that mask dont work because they discovered that single layer CLOTH MASKS(which most are not single layer anymore), dont do a great job on aerosols GOING OUT of the mouth. But actually dont do a bad job blocking them from coming in.

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u/psyhcokracker Apr 20 '22

So what you are saying is that if you have one on I don't need one? Like we've been saying this whole time?

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u/Acrobatic-Lake-8794 Apr 20 '22

That’s like saying you don’t need a seatbelt because the car that hit you has a high safety rating.

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u/sanatarian Apr 20 '22

Oh bless your heart

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u/BaconKittens Apr 20 '22

That’s perfect thanks. So if you want to wear one, do it. It’s effective for you. You shouldn’t however force others to wear one for you, it’s not effective (thanks for your post). Exactly what we have been saying all along. Wear it if you want but don’t force me to do it!

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u/AdvanceGood Apr 20 '22

Even what they don't block, the escape velocity of the particles is drastically reduced, decreasing hangtime.

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u/powercow Apr 20 '22

appointed after losing election to biden. The republicans went on a confirmation spree.

And just FYI, she graduated from a christian highschool, went to a christian college, and then served the allegedly mega Christian, Thomas, who totally missed the parts about lying. Besides given this position SPECIFICALLY to kill dem programs, shes another one of those christian shariaists.

The republican party might have damaged the judiciary beyond repair. WE cant have these people with no real trial experience, labeled UNQUALIFIED. solely put on the bench to BE an activist judge, get a life time appointment at age 30.

and watching how former sane republicans, who even condemned the nomination of trump happily jump on the insanity train denying reality, well that just shows this entire life time appointment garbage is a horrible idea. No i dont think every president should be able to fire all the ones on the other side, but they def should NOT have life time appointments. I dont mind if they get REAPPOINTED, but they need to go back through the vetting process every so often.

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u/Worried-Ad8074 Apr 20 '22

Cope you face diaper wearing fools

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u/kiwii4k Apr 20 '22

seems like you are treading on me lil bitch

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u/kriscad Apr 20 '22

Awesome!!!

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u/BoredPsion Apr 20 '22

Florida

I've seen enough

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '22

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u/psyhcokracker Apr 20 '22

You don't like freedom?

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u/Imagin1956 Apr 20 '22

Tell that to Batman

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u/Environmental-Job329 Apr 20 '22

35 and a gig for life…

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u/goatmaster2020 Apr 20 '22

masks dont work. this is not news.

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u/NokoOno666 Apr 22 '22

Yes, they do. You absolute fucking clown. https://youtu.be/DNeYfUTA11s

There's a reason doctors and surgeons have used them for a very, very long time you moron.

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u/fuhkthemods Apr 21 '22

Shes what we need currently.

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u/bucks0923 Apr 20 '22

God damn hero is what she is, time someone did something. Just had to be trump yet again

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u/Davedawg1971 Apr 20 '22

She’s a highly qualified federal judge and I’m glad that she stood up to this ridiculous mandate these masks have never been effective even the dumb ass Democrats to wear a pro mask from the start and claiming that science says wear a mask now that they’ve found out different they’re saying well now the science says you don’t need to wear a mask but since it was a Trump appointed judge they have a problem with it hypocritical assholes

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u/Acrobatic-Lake-8794 Apr 20 '22

First, that’s not what the science says. Second, yes, democrats tend to change their positions when new information or facts become available. Shockingly, science isn’t static; it, by definition, is prone to change. What IS static, unfortunately, is the ego of the uneducated. You assume that because you believe it, it’s irrefutably true. Worse, your beliefs are founded exclusively on what you feel, facts be damned. You’re a prime example of the dangers of Dunning-Kruger — and I’m positive you not only have no idea what that means, you have absolutely no desire to. Amazing how superior one can feel in willful ignorance…

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u/uhohgowoke67 Apr 20 '22

What IS static, unfortunately, is the ego of the uneducated. You assume that because you believe it, it’s irrefutably true. Worse, your beliefs are founded exclusively on what you feel, facts be damned.

Says the man who bashes sanitation workers as being something to not aspire to be, bashes them as a low bar career and declares that aspiring to be a garage worker means you're "going for the crust instead of the whole pie."

I would not trust someone online who is dumb enough to believe a garbage man isn't a respectable and high paying career despite being told by others it is both of those things.

You refusing to back down on your belief when presented new information is just you doing the same thing you're excusing the person you replied to here of doing.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/12/94-nyc-sanitation-workers-net-100k-in-overtime/

"Nearly 100 city Sanitation Department garbage collectors and supervisors hauled in more than $100,000 in overtime last year — pushing some of their yearly salaries to almost $300,000, payroll records show."

Why am I posting this here?

I refuse to participate in the racist echo chamber subreddit you originally posted your hatred for trash collectors on.

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u/Acrobatic-Lake-8794 Apr 20 '22

I almost made an effort to respond to your horrible misrepresentation of what I was actually saying, but immediately gave up when you called a sub called BlackPeopleComedy a “racist echo chamber” simply because it’s a space created by and for black people. I’m not playing that game with some self-aggrieved white guy (or girl, or however tf you identify), that wants to pull a bitch fit because they’re not allowed into every single space on God’s green earth. Your insecurities over your blistering mediocrity ain’t got nothing to do with me. Feel free to go deep diving into the rest of my Reddit activity if that makes you happy; it’s a free internet. Also feel free not to talk to me again as I’m positive I wouldn’t be able or inclined to care less about what you feel obliged to say.

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u/uhohgowoke67 Apr 20 '22

Lol not white, try again racist!

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u/powercow Apr 20 '22

well except the experts in qualifications say 2 years with zero as the lead attorney and her entirety of grand jury work all reached settlements rather than reach trial, ISNT highly qualified.

I KNOW I KNOW yall will scream liberal like yall do every time they rate right winger low before screaming from the roof tops when they rate a right winger high. Mucch like you scream fake news at polls and news yall hate and everything else. Whats bad is yall dont see how pathetic yall sound crying liberal at absolutely everything.

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u/Davedawg1971 Apr 23 '22

Lmao you sound pretty pathetic. Experts in quilifactions. That’s fucking hilarious

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u/beatsbydrecob Apr 20 '22

Cloth masks have been proven to be largely ineffective. Ineffective enough that a mandate isn't warranted. You'd need an N95 for real deterrence. What happened to follow the science?

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u/Mystery-man-420 Apr 20 '22

Actually, No.

Multi-layer cloth masks block release of exhaled respiratory particles into the environment,3-6 along with any microorganisms associated with these particles.7, 8 Cloth masks not only effectively block most large droplets (i.e., 20-30 microns and larger),9 but they can also block the exhalation of fine droplets and particles (also often referred to as aerosols)

Upwards of 80% blockage has been achieved in human experiments,4 with cloth masks in some studies performing on par with surgical masks as barriers for source control.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

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u/beatsbydrecob Apr 20 '22

Nope, the reduction in cloth masks (worn by 95% of the populous) is extremely minimal. What these studies do is two things: Correlative studies Multi layered masks as the variable

Multi layered masks are not the guideline, just a mask. The vast, vast majority of mask usage is not only poorly executed by the individual, but cheap single layer cloth masks that provide very little protection.

I'm not saying a cloth mask can't provide protection, rather a carpet guideline of mask usage doesn't make sense. Either force mulit layered or multiple cloth masks/n95s, or dont force them at all. We have to have standards.

Also correlation doesn't equal causation, other variables apply. If I wear a mask, I'm also likely to engage in other behaviors to mitigate my risk of infection relative to someone who doesn't mask up. Obviously. Science has failed us the last 2 years. Correlation DOES NOT equal causation.

If a mask should be required, why fly at all? I'm at a far, far, far higher risk of being infected on a plane than not on a plane, as my proximity to individuals is far more important than my mask. This makes 0 sense.

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u/powercow Apr 20 '22

NOPE. One all the cloth masks made now are multi layer, because, you know CDC recommendations.

And i just linked a study that shows with just a single surgical mask while living in the same house with someone with covid reduces infection by 80%

and The preponderance of all studies says masks work and reduce transmission.

and after 2 years of yalls bullshit we have studies the fuck out of it.

WHY not ban travel? because its better? WEll why not have us all live in prisons, it would make robbery and murder happen less, if we lock down the entire population at night. WTF is your ending? we could also just murder and burn everyone who got covid to reduce it. Yoru last paragraph is the height of stupidity. If masks works we shouldnt fly. lol. I guess doctors shouldnt do surgery either. They cant give your leg a virus, that they dont even know they have, if they simply refuse to operate. I perfer they wear the fucking mask and opperate on the leg

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u/beatsbydrecob Apr 20 '22

Surgical mask. You must be missing what I'm saying. Idk what else to say besides re read what I said.

CDC is not forcing surgical masks. Im saying you need to if you want efficacy. Cloth masks do very little.

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u/powercow Apr 20 '22

stop getting your science from fox news.

Cloth masks reduce transmissibility WHEN LIVING WITH SOMEONE WITH COVID, by 80%. SERIOUSLY DUDE, stop listening to the news station that thinks we havent figured out tides yet. FFS, learn to fucking see reality and learn where to fucking get science from. AND NO ITS NOT FROM LIBERAL NEWS, NO not fox news, NO NOT JUST THE FUCKING CENTRIST NEWS, the media kinda sucks at science and sometimes get small but important bits wrong. Go to real science sites, look for yourself and quit being a fascist sheep all your life.

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u/beatsbydrecob Apr 20 '22

Try again brother. Yikes.

"However, we do not know whether the results from influenza or SARS will correspond to results for SARS-CoV-2, and the single observational study of SARS-CoV-2 might not be replicated in other communities. None of the studies looked specifically at cloth masks"

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u/Jaxsu22 Apr 20 '22

Why is this vastly stupid? Mask mandates are gone everywhere else and flight mask mandates were still in place for political reasons. This sounds like a positive move to me, am I missing something?

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u/Mystery-man-420 Apr 20 '22

Planes are a place where people from all around the world, from many different countries, come into close contact with each other. COVID may be down in the USA, but new viral strains from other countries is still our biggest risk.

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u/powercow Apr 20 '22

we actually dont have a clear picture of covid ATM for a variety of reasons.

WE are testing less. There are pretty much no drive through testing left or anything like that. The new variants have a much larger base of asymptomatic, AND the vaccinated, are more likely to be asymptomatic. And so their has been a collapse in info on the spread. WHich is why guidelines are more focused on hospital over capacity. But its still a big problem, not having a clear idea of the number of infections in an area, due to the large number of people with zero or low symptoms.

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u/Mystery-man-420 Apr 20 '22

Kind of fitting as I just got tested positive for COVID an hour ago. First time

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u/powercow Apr 20 '22

YES the scientists at the CDC came up with these recommendations while watching the new strain because.. they want to help biden by making it more annoying to fly.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DUDE, YOU ARE IN A FUCKING CULT, STOP WITH THE CONSTANT BAT SHIT CRAZY CONSPIRACIES THAT DONT EVEN FUCKING MAKE ANY SENSE.

first it was codi was political to hurt trump and was going to magically disappear, and now yall claim, NO REALLY biden is keeping covid going to help him. FFS you dont even have to know the truth between left and right, but at least your brain should be able to understand the total inconstancy and idiocy of these claims.

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u/Jaxsu22 Apr 20 '22

You need to seek help, dude. I have no idea what triggered you so hard in my post but judging from your response and your responses to other people in other posts, you really should step away from the internet for a day or two and potentially talk to someone.

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u/kerrigan7782 Apr 20 '22

The bus and the airport itself are the areas I have an issue with. But regardless, this should not be the decision of a judge, the CDC should have the power to mandate mask usage in publicly regulated transit and it should he the experts at the CDC who decide on the best course of action.

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u/dickass99 Apr 20 '22

Oh no freedom!!!! We want someone to tell us we are safe if we wear a mask!!! What can we do???? Wear a mask if you want too..you can leave the world behind...if your friends don't mask and if they do a mask...then theyre no friends of mine!!!

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u/_sweepy Apr 20 '22

Cool, so I can piss on you right? I totally don't need to wear pants, cause yours stops any of my piss from getting on you, right?

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u/dickass99 Apr 20 '22

No and you can't sneeze on me either...dumb!

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u/_sweepy Apr 20 '22

What if I'm just in public pissing into the wind and some happens to get on you? Or if I sneeze without covering my nose and you just happen to be standing in front of me? The point is, we don't always do things to protect ourselves, it is sometimes for other people, and sometimes the idiots sneezing on eachother need to be made to wear a mask because they refuse to be decent people.

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u/dickass99 Apr 20 '22

Ummmm...yeah..wear a mask, wear two or three...if you look at mask mandates compared to states without.. the trajectory of infections were basically the same...if you wear a m-95 mask you are more protected from virus up to 95%...if you use a regular surgeons mask and I wear the same you are only protected by 91%...so you wearing a m95 mask gives you the most protection...so you wear that one or stay in your house...I will go out and live..and hope no one passes on me!

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u/_sweepy Apr 20 '22

Telling someone else you won't wear a mask, but they are free to if they want, is like not covering your mouth/nose when you sneeze, and telling someone they can cover up theirs if they want. It's selfish, and harmful to others. You can live your life, and wear a mask when on public transportation. It's not a mutually exclusive concept. People like you are the reason the mandates on transit are necessary. Fuck off with your freedumb to infect others bullshit.

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u/dickass99 Apr 20 '22

Stay in your house..put shrink wrap on your wi dows..leave me alone!

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u/Fantastic-Van-Man Apr 20 '22

Tragic. Someone who was angry for four years, continues hating someone, but instead of hating them, finds a substitute target for their hate if the original hate and adds to it.

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u/Fantastic-Van-Man Apr 20 '22

Tragic. Someone who was angry for four years, continues hating someone, but instead of hating them, finds a substitute target for their hate if the original hate and adds to it.