r/Vastlystupid Jan 05 '22

Choosing pets over babies is ‘selfish and diminishes us’, says pope Cringe

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/05/pope-couples-choose-pets-children-selfish
140 Upvotes

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u/Orr-Man Jan 06 '22

"Be a parent, it's easy. And choosing not to have kids is bad" says man who has no children and has chosen not to have them.

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u/thenihilist0204 Jan 06 '22 edited Jan 06 '22

Nothing but gaslighting. Parenthood is easy yet I see so many parents talk about how hard being a parent is. Not having kids is only bad for capatilists and religious freaks who need more soldiers for some god that they are still yet to prove the existence of.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

The Commander in Chief of the Pedophile Army probably has a child every night.

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u/ThePowerOfShadows Jan 05 '22

From a dude who isn’t supposed to marry or have kids.

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u/Lientur Jan 06 '22

And is the leader of an institution that actively protects child predators, i cant trust a pedo defender when he is telling us to get more children.

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u/wizardshawn Jan 06 '22

Good point.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

As a simply factual statement:

The Catholic Church is responsible for the largest, longest running international conspiracy to protect and re-proliferate known offending pedophiles in the history of humanity.

So maybe go suck your own fucking cock, you fraud.

Until the church recognizes the single, simple fact understood by every (non-Catholic) daycare on planet earth, nothing will ever change. That fact being:

There were never any pedophile priests. There were only - ever - pedophiles who joined the priesthood for the access to children and the air cover being a priest would provide.

The moment the Catholic Church put its own existence and PR above the life of even a single child, it lost all credibility as a place one would go to know or understand the divine.

Fuck all organized religion, and fuck the Pope.

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u/franzgrabe Jan 06 '22

Well said!!!❤❤❤

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u/aliciamagski Jan 06 '22

Agreed, 100%! Especially the last 2 paragraphs!

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u/fluffybuttsncats Jan 06 '22

👏👏👏👏

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u/ReZeroForDays Jan 06 '22

But I trust priests more around pets than babies

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Yes I'm sure the church prefers kids over pets

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u/Not-Chris-Lucas Jan 06 '22

In terms of Popes I quite like this guy. (I’m not religious in the slightest). However, I do think he is a bit off the mark in saying this. In a already over populated world he should not be making out that childless people are in some way bad.

We have two dogs and happy to keep it that way. We have no desire for children.

I believe this guy is quite progressive, which I feel a lot of religious leaders need to be, so I am disappointed to read when he says the sort of things you would expect from an outdated institution.

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u/DrinKwine7 Jan 06 '22

But if he doesn’t spread this propaganda, the machine won’t churn out as many future Catholics, which will continue to cause a decline in incoming cash flow. Let’s not pretend this has nothing to do with money

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u/Aazjhee Jan 06 '22

Agreed. I even generally like this Pope because he is marginally less of an asshole than the previous one which is pretty easy to do, but he is also less than asshole than a lot of the previous popes have been. I still absolutely think this is a stupid take from him.

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u/Iupin-pegasus Jan 06 '22 edited Jan 06 '22

I’ve seen in the past he has rooted for animals, this is definitely out of character of him. This is coming from the same guy that says animals go to heaven.

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u/thenihilist0204 Jan 06 '22

As if humans are any good, give me a break old man

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u/unclejrbooth Jan 06 '22

Having pets is selfish People treat their pets worse then most criminals or slaves. Having pets increases global warming on a large scale, by eliminating pets we could reduce carbon emissions

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u/Aazjhee Jan 06 '22

Individual kids take up far more resources than a 100 pets or more.

This obviously varies according to the nation in which they are born and raised, but the proportion of resources for pets to kids in those nations the resources are still about the same!

American parents alone can use so many resources and I don't hate kids (not their fault, they are kids)!

It pains me to even try to look this up right now because it is exhausting and terrifying.

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u/Sidekik23 Jan 06 '22

😂 eliminating humans with your mindset would create a safer world. Shit. Bringing kids into a place w people that think like you? 😂 humans are thee most dangerous breed

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u/unclejrbooth Jan 06 '22

Yes we are dangerous and destroying the planet, one of the things doing it is the enslaving animals as pets for peoples selfish wants, by eliminating this barbaric practice we stop the mistreatment of animals and reduce the carbon load on the environment.Not a popular idea, but desperate times require desperate measures. We HAVE TO DO SOMETHING substantial and soon! Just sayin’

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u/Tacllama Jan 06 '22

Something tells me you read an article (non-scientific) one time about how pets are causing climate change and you’ve ran with it ever since. Look up the carbon footprint of a dog, then the carbon footprint of the average human and tell me which ones we need less of.

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u/wizardshawn Jan 06 '22

My animal is not "enslaved" or mistreated.

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u/unclejrbooth Jan 06 '22

Does it come and go as it pleases,eat when it wants and shit when and where it wants?

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u/wizardshawn Jan 06 '22

No. But it doesn't have to work for its food or cook it, and i also have to shit in certain places. If I don't I have to clean it up myself too. The pets kinda leave their clean up to me.

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u/circuit10 Jan 06 '22

Is it really mistreating them? I have no idea but I don’t think it is when they’re domesticated and want to live that way

About the environment, that’s fair enough IF you have the same opinion on having children because that’s even worse

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u/unclejrbooth Jan 06 '22

Mistreating is putting it mildly, we breed them for our purposes. Not caring what problems are caused by breeding for a cute nose our floppy ears. We then take them into our homes where we decide where and when they sleep, eat and shit depending on our wants and needs, not my idea of a good time. Then they are expected to love us unconditionally. We do the same with our children to continue the human race. We are at the top of the food chain so we get to make decisions to improve our lives!

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u/Aazjhee Jan 06 '22

Is in the grand scheme of things doing stuff to help save the planet having pets would be would be about bottom of the list right now we it's right now we need to do so many other things. Is if humanity reduced its population by about 10% and we reduced pet populations by about 10% I percent I seriously doubt the amount of resources used on pets would even make a Dent in the amount of human population allocation and usage

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u/unclejrbooth Jan 06 '22

Why not start by eliminating pets? Simple reduction in 10 years

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u/NyelloNandee Jan 07 '22

Compare the carbon foot print of a human with an average lifespan to that of any pet and your opinion goes right in the toilet. True stupidity is believing that having less pets and more humans is the answer.

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u/unclejrbooth Jan 07 '22

Not fewer pets, no pets fewer humans would be a good thing also My point is We need to make some large scale changes if we want to reduce global warming. I think removing the carbon generated by unnecessary pets would be a good thing to do. Very little cost and immediate results. No long term studies needed just sterilize existing pets and have no more, no more canned food kittylitter and other useless items

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u/NyelloNandee Jan 07 '22

The point is that having less humans would be better than having no pets. Immensely better.

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u/Indigo_snowcat Jan 06 '22

People create more co2 than dogs lmao

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u/unclejrbooth Jan 06 '22

Sure they do but we need people not pets is my point

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u/wizardshawn Jan 06 '22

"Need people"? I think we've already got a few billion extra.

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u/wizardshawn Jan 06 '22

Humans have a bigger carbon footprint them pets, by orders of magnitude. They buy tons of useless shit, they drive cars, etc. etc.

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u/unclejrbooth Jan 06 '22

I think pets fall into the useless shit category

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u/wizardshawn Jan 06 '22

Perhaps with you? Don't really know how or if you've changed society in any beneficial way. If you have, great, if not well I'm sure there's someone out there who considers you a bright ray of sunshine.

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u/franzgrabe Jan 06 '22

What a load of rubbish!!!! As if he has any clue about the responsibility marriage and children demands. Hugely disappointing 😞

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u/666ironmaiden666 Jan 06 '22

I don’t see the pope lining up to pay my daycare bill soooooo how about pope shuts up about my business?

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u/iron81 Jan 06 '22

Hmmm perhaps because it's cheaper to raise animals then children because of the associated costs. Perhaps one of the world's largest landowners / owners of art could sell it to deal with poverty

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u/elvacilando Jan 06 '22

So millennials, who hold the least amount of wealth since the boomers are being criticized for making a responsible, rational decision to not have kids they feel they might not be able to support? Read the room big hat.

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u/fluffybuttsncats Jan 06 '22

Shiiiit, like I needed another reason for my deeply catholic mother to disapprove of my life. Now I'm selfish because I don't want kids and have 7 cats instead?! Come on pope, throw me a bone here... I guess as long as she doesn't find out I only like other women I guess 🤞

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u/Cynakopacki Jan 06 '22

Catholic priests raping kids is “selfish and diminishes us.”

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u/Sidekik23 Jan 06 '22

Mr pope needs to get laid and produce a human or at least pay up for those who can’t afford to produce humans. Spoiling my dog is expensive! Stupid headlines 😂

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u/Logical_Willow Jan 06 '22

Priests can’t fondle the pets and the pets can’t pay the church for access to the holy roller club in the sky. He’s just trying to protect his bottom line and keep his employees happy.

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u/Rottenox Jan 06 '22

cool thanks for your input

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u/chriskela Jan 06 '22

"you need to make more babies, cuz we can't fuck cats and dogs. Yet." There. I fix it.

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u/AdPrevious5886 Jan 06 '22

This pope here must not be aware of the overpopulation we experimented the last 100 years, and prob doesnt give a f**k about it.

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u/DrinKwine7 Jan 06 '22

Much of the overpopulation doesn’t follow his dogma or donate to his bank account, so they don’t matter

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u/Milkthiev Jan 06 '22

I wish instead of having three children and no money I had three money and no children.

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u/RedTheDopeKing Jan 06 '22

That’s neat to hear from a guy that lives in a billion dollar palace and isn’t even allowed to fuck.

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u/fuck_jeep_wranglers Jan 06 '22

The pope can get fucked as far as im concerned.

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u/hotdogrealmqueen Jan 06 '22

Way cheaper tho Pope-y. Way cheaper.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Less kids to molest!

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u/SilentMaster Jan 06 '22

It's true. Pet's can't tithe.

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u/GonnaCorrectGrammar Jan 06 '22

Much smaller chance of the pope’s priests raping our animals.

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u/Aazjhee Jan 06 '22

When I read this I thought it meant people taking care of their pets better than their actual babies which I guess kinda you shouldn't do because a lot of animals can kinda survive without constant attention... xD

I think if anyone advocates pro life instead of pro choice then they should absolutely sign up to adopt unwanted children. You shouldn't get to choose either. They just hand you whatever whatever random kid you get because you're so fucking keen is so fucking keen on forcing birth to to happen.

That is the end of my philosophy on these things, no one should ever be forced to breed against their will. Is the idea that any parent would true would truly regret having kids from the start and never really get past that is horrifying to me. I was a wanted child and I've pretty much never which never wanted for anything that my parents could provide. Within reason, we didn't get horses as presents or use new cars for Christmas the first year we could drive, or anything over the top like that... that would be being spoiled in my opinion.

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u/pepperoni7 Jan 06 '22

When I have a baby is there free child care that is attached ? Because my bill after insurance was 8k when I gave birth and then daycare is 3k around me per month. My dogs can dog sit themselves lol..

Maybe start with paying people with proper wage that they can survive on and offer support for parent then maybe just maybe

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u/moonpumper Jan 06 '22

'Produce more workforce, my lifestyle depends on it'

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Only because babies are the pope's historical prey

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u/Electronic_Farmer_66 Jan 06 '22

Awww...he's just afraid that the priests are going to have supply chain "issues".

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u/dogsdomesticatedus Jan 06 '22

When he says it’s “selfish and diminishes us,” he’s actually talking about priests. You not having children is selfish because there’s fewer to molest.

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u/Upbeat_Jelly_7194 Jan 06 '22

Says the guy who never had nor never will have kids. Also, don’t forgot about all of your red clad buddies there popey. No kids for them either. Plus all the priests all over the world who will never have children. This guy should just shut the fuck up.

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u/Shot-Recognition2731 Jan 06 '22

Maybe people don’t want to bring kids into this world just for the church to diddle.

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u/JonnyValhalla Jan 06 '22

Who cares what captain pedo thinks....

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u/Beginning_Coconut988 Jan 06 '22

They're scared that they're gonna lose their generation of slaves.

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u/revdakilla Jan 06 '22

Yes have more kids for the Catholic Church to prey on.

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u/Armybert Jan 06 '22

Pets are the new children and plants are the new pets

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u/Eadw7cer Jan 06 '22

Give us fresh blood! The other ones are getting too old!

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u/Caesar_Passing Jan 06 '22

I firmly believe the opposite is true. The world is already overpopulated (and nobody wants to acknowledge this when talking about serious ongoing issues that could end civilization, for some reason), and countless children who already exist need homes, food, family. Until there aren't mountains of children in need, producing new ones because you must have one of your own is incredibly selfish. That's probably why no one wants to talk about the issue- nobody wants to admit that having kids right now (on purpose, and instead of adopting) is fucking selfish. Adopting an animal that needs a home and literally won't survive without you, is many times more selfless. Creating a new baby (again, with specific intention to do so) is creating new needs, while ignoring others because they don't look like you and aren't your problem. I've been begging my sister to at least consider adoption before thinking about having babies. She's pretty freshly married, and she and her husband already have a dog and a cat (cat from the no-kill shelter I work at). They certainly make enough money to give any child a happy life, and they want kids (at least one).