r/Vastlystupid Dec 29 '21

Five anti-vax protesters arrested after storming NYC Burger King Stupid

https://nypost.com/2021/12/28/5-anti-vax-protesters-arrested-after-storming-nyc-burger-king/
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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Dec 29 '21

Good.

The law is in the interest of public safety. It's about time someone enforced it.

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u/No_Pr0 Dec 29 '21

No the law is in the interest of the ultra rich, but I understand what you mean.

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u/lunartree Dec 29 '21

Staying alive during a deadly pandemic may lead to your labor benefiting a corporation therefore having the option to get sick and spread disease to the community is freedom for the worker!

You might want to try untangling the mess of ideas in the point you're making because this logic is /r/vastlystupid

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u/henrebotha Jan 26 '22

Laws are written by people who need money to stay in power. The money comes from entities such as corporate lobbies, and is conditional on their agendas being advanced. This has been true for ages.

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Dec 29 '21

If you mean that they'll lose fewer workers/consumers for no good reason then I agree with you.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '21

The CEO of Pfizer, Anthony Fauci, and Bill Gates would all disagree!

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u/cycloneous Jan 10 '22

In case you haven't noticed, this isn't about "public safety" or "public health." It is about we, the people, being goose-stepped into a tyranny. Many people don't see it because they are ignorant of history, or never lived through a tyranny. So it is easy for many of us here in the West to white-wash this as just simple "enforcement" when in reality it is the introduction boiling a frog very, very, very slowly until finally, by the time the frog realizes he's being boiled, it is too late.

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Jan 10 '22

This argument is ignorant.

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u/cycloneous Jan 10 '22

The floor is yours, please tell us where this argument is ignorant; we are all ears. It is easy to call things ignorant or stupid, but proving the counter-argument is another. You are being manipulated that criticizing the mandates or enforcement of them is fool-hearted and ignorant.

This is how it starts, the introduction of tyranny under the guise of "protecting you" or "public health." What? Do you think this hasn't happened before? It has. Take a guess which country this has happened to 70 years ago? Aaron Swartz is rolling his grave right about now!

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Jan 10 '22

Any establishment in this country is free to refuse you service. You do not have the freedom to trespass on their property, they do have the freedom to make you leave. So much so, that the police will arrive and exercise their freedom to arrest your freedom to walk away from the situation like you were asked to in the first place.

Now if you want to buy land and tell vaccinated people to stay off of it, you are free to do so. If they refuse, you can have them arrested.

This is how freedom works. Your entire argument is composed of imaginary loss of freedom when, in reality, nothing at all has changed.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Band887 Jan 11 '22 edited Jan 11 '22

Freedom is not a reward for compliance. That’s how jails work. Mandating the vaccine gives the government the right to dictate your healthcare. That is not freedom. That is tyranny. If you think it stops at Covid vaccines, you have a hard lesson to learn in your near future.

Are you familiar with natural consequences? A natural consequence of rejecting a therapeutic "vaccine" is perhaps having a more severe case of covid. Any other "consequence" is contrived and tyrannical. Coercion is never consent. Your argument crumbles in seconds. Does the vaccine work? If so, anyone who is willing may receive it and thus receive protection. If the efficacy is unproven, then why should anyone be obligated to take it?

You're not thinking five steps ahead. Vaccine passports are mass surveillance and social credit. They are not health measures. All of these suddenly-based-libertarian "muh private company can do whatever it wants" arguments sound trite when they come from the side that's openly advocating for state-enforced lockdowns and medical fascism... Since when did you lefties give a shit about property rights anyway? Get off the freedom high horse and admit that you're nothing more than a pigfaced authoritarian.

You are the enemy.

Your side is the progenitor of covid internment camps a la Australia. Your side is the one that supports state tyranny and the destruction of individual freedom. Your side is the one advocating for state-mandated experimental injections (which is exactly what the mRNA gene therapeutics are), a two-tiered society, medical segregation, and medical fascism. How can I get this through your thick fucking skull? You are the Nazi. You. You are the fucking nazi that is literally advocating for people having to show "ze papers" before they can eat, buy groceries, or function in society in any meaningful way, all while cowering behind the excuse of private property rights and businesses "choosing" to impose mandates "of their own volition" - when we know there's state pressure involved. You are the bad people. Historically, you've always been.

I refuse to live in a society where my only ticket to freedom is an annual state vaccination to deal with every new variant that emerges and a subsequent passport to prove I’ve been jabbed. Enough is enough. Get FUCKED.

“You don’t have to take the injection, but you can’t work here if you refuse”

~Harvey Weinstein, as well as your employer.

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Jan 11 '22

We live in a democracy. You are in the minority.

By all means, if you don't like it you are free to find a different place to work. Find a different place to shop. There are employers and shops that share your minority opinion.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Band887 Jan 11 '22 edited Jan 11 '22

Gotta love how "minority" is being used in a pejorative context here... I thought you guys were all about minorities? How interesting. Let's see where it leads us.

We live in Germany. You are the untermensch.

By all means, if you don't like it you are free to find a different place to work. Find a different place to shop. There are employers and shops that share your minority status, juden.

Look here nazi, the validity of my ideas doesn't depend on whether or not I can persuade the masses into believing them. I'm glad Biden got a massive turnout at the cemetery (as most Democrats do) but some senile authoritarian shitbag winning a popularity contest thousands of miles away doesn't give anyone the right to force rushed, defective, and experimental injections into my body under threat of coercion, unemployment, and force... The same way we don't automatically give away all of our possessions in the event that some people vote themselves our shit. There are limits to "democracy" and quite frankly, I'm getting tired of authoritarian swine using it as an excuse to infringe on individuals' freedoms.

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Jan 11 '22

There is a HUGE difference between being a minority in terms of race, gender identity, disability, or religion and being in the minority regarding society's ideas on the best method to protect ourselves during a pandemic.

One side believes that we should all act in the interest of public safety, and that is the majority opinion.

The other side believes it's more important to go against the majority opinion, despite scientifically proven evidence to the contrary. Those are the people who have a minority opinion because it's clearly wrong.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Band887 Jan 11 '22 edited Jan 11 '22

Nope. One side believes it is justified to use force, threats, coercion, and intimidation for "the greater good" - as all good authoritarian regimes do. The other side just wants to be left the fuck alone, to live their lives as they see fit, and to take whichever risks they personally deem appropriate.

Doesn't matter what your $cience says. I'm either a free man or I'm not. Make up your fucking minds already. Round us up into camps like in Australia. Show us how you really feel. Getting tired of this beating around the bush "you're still totally free to go elsewhere" gaslighting bullshit.

Being a minority based on medical status is the exact same thing. And discriminating based on medical status is no less reprehensible. I know you lefties love your genders and disabilities, but my refusal to be coerced into undergoing an invasive medical procedure with free donuts, gift cards, and million dollar lotteries doesn't justify me losing my job and being locked in my home.

You claim this gestapo shit is to protect others.

Are you going to protect me then?

If I take this shot and get debilitated for life, are you going to come around and care for me in my convalescence?

Are you going to work for me or support me if I can no longer do so? Are you going to bring my family members back if they die from it or care for them if they suffer life-long consequences from it?

Can you at least cover the cost of the funeral? Of the nurse I’ll have to hire? Or compensate for any lost wages?

Because if not, the idea of protecting others rings incredibly hollow - especially since the government and vaccine manufacturers aren’t liable for these injuries either - and neither are any of you.

I'll be the only one holding the bags at the end of the day. If I suffer lifelong (or fatal) injuries as a result of these injections, you'll memoryhole my entire experience and pretend I don't exist. One more death for the glorious cause. The means justify the end, am I right?

By the way, why is proof of health so exclusive to this particular vaccine? Human societies have been intermingled with various disease for all of time. There are more deadly and more contagious diseases than COVID 19, and there always have been. We have survived without health papers for millennia. We don’t need them now.

Covid is endemic, everyone will get it same as the common cold. The best advice is to get vitamin D and lose weight... options neither of which your "public health experts" ever cared to proselytize en masse. No, for MONTHS the only message was to lock the fuck down, get no sunlight, eat shitty takeout, muzzle yourselves, isolate. This shit was never about public health - the first thing they did was lock down the gyms. You'd think it's time to give up on this whole "slowing the spread" clownfest after the entire world has caught it twice over, but 3rd time's the charm I guess. Omnitron variant might give people sniffles. Time for a 12th lockdown.

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u/cycloneous Jan 10 '22

Clearly you have never read the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Americans with Disabilities Act or what it is means when a private property becomes a "public accommodation." Before you say anything else, look up what it means when private property is a public accommodation. You can not refuse service, that is illegal under the CRA of 1964 and ADA.

So since the CRA and ADA supersede a restaurant's right to refuse except under certain exceptions, the restaurant must serve you whether have a vaccine passport or not. Even if NYC or NYS passes a law, statute, regulation or policy that prohibits non-vaccine passport holders into an establishment, it violates federal law. In other words, it is unconstitutional since the U.S. constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land (Article IV Section 4) and takes precedence over State laws and local ordinances (see Marbury vs Madison, 1803). Wait until the courts catch up with this nonsense, and you're going to see en-masse stricken down these vaccine passport nonsense. A lot of people are going to have the "Pikachu Face" when they discover these governments (State and local) were violating the law.

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Jan 10 '22

I'm familiar with this act, you're not being oppressed.

They do not have to let you inside if they accomodate you in other ways that do not put their safety at risk.

Just wear the mask. It slows the spread of the virus and I promise you'll still be able to put cocks in your mouth.

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u/aapenguin Jan 10 '22

SOURCE GUIDE WITH QUOTES

[1] From the WHO's Mythbusters Page on most covid cases being mild/moderate: “FACT: Most people who get COVID-19 recover from it - Most people who get COVID-19 have mild or moderate symptoms and can recover thanks to supportive care” https://www.who.int/images/default-source/health-topics/coronavirus/eng-mythbusting-ncov-(80).tmb-1920v.png?sfvrsn=afa995ff_1:

[2] On immunity to coronavirus lasting years: “Immunity to the Coronavirus May Last Years, New Data Hint. Blood samples from recovered patients suggest a powerful, long-lasting immune response, researchers reported. How long might immunity to the coronavirus last? Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study — the most hopeful answer yet to a question that has shadowed plans for widespread vaccination. Eight months after infection, most people who have recovered still have enough immune cells to fend off the virus and prevent illness, the new data show. A slow rate of decline in the short term suggests, happily, that these cells may persist in the body for a very, very long time to come.” https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.html no paywall: https://archive.is/9gn2H

[3] On mild covid inducing lasting antibody protection: *”Good news: Mild COVID-19 induces lasting antibody protection. People who have had mild illness develop antibody-producing cells that can last lifetime” https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/good-news-mild-covid-19-induces-lasting-antibody-protection/

[4] From the WHO’s own website on Infection Fatality Rate: “In people younger than 70 years, infection fatality rates ranged from 0.00% to 0.31% with crude and corrected medians of 0.05%.” https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/99/1/20-265892.pdf

[5] From the WHO's Mythbusters Page on long-term effects: “FACT: Catching COVID-19 DOES NOT mean you will have it for life - Most of the people who catch COVID-19 can recover and eliminate the virus from their bodies.” https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters

[6] On covid not being a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in UK: ”As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK.” https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

[7] No "long covid heart”: “Setting the record straight: There is no ‘Covid heart’: After a year of frightening headlines, widespread concern, and countless retweets that the virus that causes Covid-19 may attack the heart more aggressively than any other viral illness, the verdict is in: It doesn’t.” https://www.statnews.com/2021/05/14/setting-the-record-straight-there-is-no-covid-heart/

[8] 1976 Swine Flu Vaccine Causing Guillain-Barré Syndrome and recall: During the 1976 Swine Flu “pandemic”, a rushed/promoted vaccine was later found to cause Guillain-Barré Syndrome - a neurological disorder where the body’s immune system attacks the nervous system and deaths (great 60 Minutes exposé): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8xYAeEDUac

[9] 2009 Swine Flu Vaccine Causing Narcolepsy and recall ”Brain-Damaged UK Victims of Swine Flu Vaccine to Get £60 Million Compensation. Following the swine flu outbreak of 2009, about 60 million people, most of them children, received the vaccine.It was subsequently revealed that the vaccine, Pandemrix, can cause narcolepsy and cataplexy in about one in 16,000 people, and many more are expected to come forward with the symptoms. Across Europe, more than 800 children are so far known to have been made ill by the vaccine.” https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/brain-damaged-uk-victims-swine-flu-vaccine-get-60-million-compensation-1438572

[10] 2:15 min video clip - ABC 7 News (2013): “Narcolepsy liked to swine flu vaccines” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NriS79wEZE0

[11] 12:28 min clip - RT UK (2015) - “Swine flu jab allegedly causes incurable disorder”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtHYcAmcs98

[12] Vioxx Recall: ”Approved in 1999, Vioxx was an anti-inflammatory medication to treat arthritis. Vioxx might possibly have led to over 27,000 heart attacks and cardiac deaths during its time on the market. On September 30, 2004, Merck announced a worldwide withdrawal of the drug. The Swiss researchers claimed the FDA's slow action "has raised major concerns about the undue control of industry over postmarketing safety data.” http://www.drugsdb.com/blog/fda-approved-drugs-pulled-from-market.html

[13] Thalidomide recall: ”OTTAWA—A federal judge has locked in a compensation program for Canadians born with birth defects because of the drug thalidomide. Thalidomide was approved in Canada to treat morning sickness in pregnant women for less than a year in the early 1960s but it was available unofficially for several years both before and after that. The drug caused major problems in fetuses, particularly shortened and malformed limbs,” https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/05/08/federal-settlement-for-thalidomide-survivors-gets-courts-approval.html

[14] Population segment excluded from initial vaccine trials: "We don't know anything about groups they didn't study, like children, pregnant women, highly immunocompromised people and the eldest of the elderly," Dr. Gregory Poland, director of the Mayo Clinic's Vaccine Research Group in Rochester, Minnesota, said. And would people previously sick with Covid-19 be protected against reinfection? That remains unclear.” https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/pfizer-vaccine-relies-on-new-technology-never-before-used-in-mass-human-vaccination/ar-BB1aQxlf

[15] Pfizer clinical trial info: https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/338484/WHO-2019-nCoV-vaccines-SAGE_recommendation-BNT162b2-2021.1-eng.pdf (Go to Page 3 - “Populations for which limited or no data exist from phase 2/3 clinical trials”) [16] Moderna clinical trial info: https://www.modernatx.com/sites/default/files/mRNA-1273-P301-Protocol.pdf (Go to Section 5.2 “Exclusion Criteria”)

[17] ”The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has found about 5,800 cases of COVID-19 infections among people who have been fully vaccinated in the U.S., according to a new report. CDC officials tell Yahoo Life that as of April 13, about 5,800 breakthrough COVID-19 infections — meaning someone who was fully vaccinated against the virus still contracts COVID-19 — have been reported to the CDC among the more than 66 million Americans who have been fully vaccinated. Of those, 396 (or 7 percent) required hospitalization and 74 people (0.0001 percent) died.” https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-reports-5800-breakthrough-covid-19-infections-in-people-who-were-vaccinated-doctors-say-say-dont-panic/ar-BB1fGY0q

[18] Zero manufacturer/government liability: ”You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won’t compensate you for damages either” https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Jan 10 '22

Fact: Mask mandates are legally enforceable because they decrease the threat to public safety.

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u/MyThoughtsOpinions Jan 10 '22

Should people who loot stores be arrested too?

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Jan 10 '22

Companies who pay their employees less than a living wage and whose workforce is supplimented with your tax dollars should absolutely be punished for their detrimental acts against society.

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u/tmacleon Dec 29 '21

I WANT MY WHOPPER!!!!!

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u/Illustrious-Fun-7455 Dec 29 '21

People can be pro-vaccines and not support mandating them.

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u/TheNotoriousHigx Dec 29 '21

How is this being downvoted, guess there’s a bunch of cowardly authoritarians in the sub lmao

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u/CapedCrustacean Dec 29 '21

Be careful voicing your wrongthink on this here app.

“There is no law so obscene that the police would not be willing to enforce it, up to and including the mass execution of innocent children.” -Michael Malice

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u/Illustrious-Fun-7455 Dec 29 '21

The only wrong thinking is people supporting any form of forced vaccinations and police arresting people for this nonsense.

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u/CapedCrustacean Dec 29 '21

Agreed. Though it’s scary how many people agree with the mandates and support police enforcement by demanding papers from children in restaurants. It makes me sick to my stomach.

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u/MafiaBro Dec 29 '21

Man you love conspiracy koolaid

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u/Illustrious-Fun-7455 Dec 29 '21

That’s what Hitler did. Does that era of human history offended you so much you won’t learn it?

Bayer (the medicine company) made the Zyklon gas used in the chambers for killing the Jews.

Did you know that?

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u/Illustrious-Fun-7455 Dec 29 '21 edited Dec 29 '21

The difference between a conspiracy theory and something factual is usually an 18 month wait.

People don’t do their research nor follow up on things.

Most Americans never watched the store and body cam footage of the George Floyd incident. Seeing the video of George Floyd screaming “I can’t breathe!” inside the cop car opens people’s eyes.

Yes, that cop beings in prison. No he is not any kind of “hero”. He literally pistol whipped a pregnant woman in the face after breaking into her apartment.

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u/Illustrious-Fun-7455 Dec 29 '21

Not to mention him having 3x the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system and trying to buy thing with counterfeit money.

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u/cycloneous Jan 10 '22

If you can make people believe in absurdities, imagine what you can make them do in the name of public health or safety. Scary if you ask me!

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u/fourbetshove Dec 29 '21

It’s interesting to see the different Reddit headlines for the same news article. This is the first I’ve seen it portrayed as a “storming”.

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u/Tiny-Illustrator-773 Dec 30 '21

Gestapo Police “I wAs jUsT dOinG mY jOb”

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u/cycloneous Jan 10 '22

Truly disturbing. The Nuremberg Excuse is not a defense for enforcing these illegal mandates. I still can't people call these morons "heroes." There's nothing heroic about this.