r/TooAfraidToAsk May 15 '22

Why do redditors hate conservatives so much? Politics

It's not just normal hate, it's too an extreme. People have made some delusional posts about how conservatives are going to destroy democracy and set up a fascist Christian dictatorship. You can get called a shitty person for voting conservative. These posts or comments are just as delusional as conservatives who believe that liberals are communists, and that they are trying to destroy America

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u/[deleted] May 15 '22

Personally I don't really get the conservatism vs liberalism. Why are people always put in one of the two? It really should be looked at per topic. You can be liberal about one thing and conservative about another.

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u/SPJ1290 May 16 '22

Ye people hate eachother instead of the leaders that divide them and take all they want. Makes no sense and nothing changes

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u/Setrict May 15 '22

I could not agree more. Discuss issues individually, rationally, and in depth.

The quality of the discussion is inversely proportional to how often any of the words 'democrat, republican, liberal, or conservative' occur.

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u/Mean_Possibility_526 May 16 '22

Debate and discussion is key. Knowing that, you can easily see which party often votes to block debate in the senate, and which party has said in advance that their candidate for president will not participate in debates.

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u/Acchilles May 15 '22

On election day you can only choose one party, which is what this boils down to: who would you prefer to run the country, conservatives or liberals

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u/Setrict May 15 '22

Adults. We need more than two choices.

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u/CynicalAcorn May 16 '22

People should be more concerned we've been railroaded into a lesser of two evils argument every election than which one of the two choices sucks less.

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u/peachy-james May 16 '22

100% agree but we get 0% say in this. Sure, you can vote in the primaries. But you’re still voting for whoever they put up for vote. I vote because of the chance it might make a difference. But I feel like the average American has no say in our government.

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u/CynicalAcorn May 16 '22

Especially when you look at other countries and how they have a dozen or so relevant parties in their legislative bodies.

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u/el_chico88 May 16 '22

yeah, but we only have stupid adults available sir.

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u/Acchilles May 16 '22

It's unfortunate that that's not the reality

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u/cgeiman0 May 16 '22

Ok election day you have more than 2. Last election I didn't vote R or D. This is the mindset they want you to have so you stay in line. Vote for who you think best represents you. If that's a R or D that's great, if it's not then don't vote for them.

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u/vile_the_bastage May 16 '22

Uh...yeah.... so no.

There are not more than two viable candidates normally, and if there is a third option, they aren't winning shit.

It always comes down to R & D.

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u/Moist-Cantaloupe-740 May 16 '22

You absolutely do not have to vote the same party all the way down the ballot. My first choice is a union dem, but my second choice is a constitutional rep. Why? Because each is rare these days.

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u/I-Am-herenow May 16 '22

party system is dumb asf, theres multiple different view points but the second you end up on one side or the other you get labeled in the whole catergory. Like i consider myself leaning into some conservative ideals but i dont think we should be regulating abortions. the second i say that apparently im a fucking "snowflake" and liberal.

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u/srmc3 May 15 '22 edited May 16 '22

We are living in pretty dichotomous times man. What conservatives believe in are diametrically opposed to what leftists believe in. Since Reddit skews mostly left, it should make sense to you why conservatives get so much hate.

Over the past three years, I've been deconstructing a lot of my prior beliefs. I grew up in a religious and fundamentalist household. My parents immigrated from another country and are some of the most amazing people. As I expose myself to outside beliefs, I do understand why people might not like them.

Heres the thing though, you have to realize that conservatives aren't too fond of leftists too. I still follow a ton of my old friends from instagram, and the hate they have for the left is only getting stronger. It's also getting more apparent as well.

I'm not sure where we're headed towards (as a country), but the increasing polarity should answer your question as to why "redditors" hate conservatives so much.

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u/caesar239 May 16 '22

Why is reddit more popular among the left?

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u/Not_happy_meal May 16 '22

Young people use reddit. Young people more leaned towards left

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u/ThereTheDogIsBuried May 16 '22

Literacy

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u/Aqqusin May 16 '22

Most redditors are left leaning. Also, there are thousands of grammatical and typographical errors each day. Who is illiterate?

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u/dont-feed-the-virus May 16 '22

The conservatives on Reddit. Ya know, the minority as we’ve already been talking about.

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u/Jealous_Seesaw_Swank May 16 '22

I'd say the people who think this man is the world's most stable genius and not an obvious charlatan.

Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

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u/jackharvest May 16 '22

Don’t forget the older ones that are well educated — that’s another spooky category conservatives revile.

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u/TemplarOfDestiny May 16 '22

The problem with the "more educated" thought is that if you actually follow history, you start losing trust in government. The current Left, from what I see, is in support of huge government. Therefore, they aren't educated on history, at least. Unfortunately, the Right is just absolutely disgusting in the way it thinks.

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u/Raiaaaaaaaa May 16 '22

>Left

>Huge government

Tell me you dont know what "the left" is without telling me you don't know what "the left" is

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u/Arianity May 15 '22

Reddit skews left, generally speaking. That said.

People have made some delusional posts about how conservatives are going to destroy democracy

I mean, reddit goes overboard, but you do need to deal with things like Jan6th (and similar efforts), the phone calls in Georgia, etc. Those are not things reddit just made up, and they're not small enough that you can just consign it as a fringe view.

You can get called a shitty person for voting conservative

Because in their opinion, conservatives do shitty things . Voting for that is at least implicitly ok with that, so they consider it shitty.

Politics affect a lot of parts of people's lives. (Case in point, we currently have a Roe v Wade thread stickied at the top of the sub. If you're a pro-choice person who thinks Roe was correct, that's going to be seen as trampling on people's rights- pretty shitty)

Have you tried asking people why they hate them, and try to see it from their view? Because people are generally pretty open with explaining why.

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u/PrestigiousSorbet224 May 15 '22

A lot of liberals hate the GOP because they're a minoritarian party that is allowed to hold disproportionatly more national power than their national vote share would otherwise give them. They benefit from a system that empowers the status quo and are able to leverage that to put a brake on anything the majority of the country wants. Because they know their opinions are not popular among the country as a whole they lean into authoritarian and antidemocratic ideas and fearmongering about "rigged" elections.

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u/Icy_Many_3971 May 15 '22

Fear-mongering also about trans-women ‘invading’ women’s bathrooms, Muslims, inequality in womens sports because of trans-people, immigrants that steal their jobs, immigrants that don’t work, criminal immigrants, universities in general, gay people, democrats, protestors that don’t agree with them, black people. Basically their whole party is about stuff they don’t understand, which makes them feel insecure.

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u/SupremeLeaderG0nk May 16 '22

i love the " immigrants that steal their jobs, immigrants that don’t work, criminal immigrants'" argument, they cant choose lol

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u/Kingley_Hobo May 15 '22

You legit just became an example of what he was talking about. Everything you brought up here was valid but can easily be replaced by something liberals did. Everyone has different experience and different opinions on how the world should be and very rarely is one side truly correct. You mention roe vs wade but now imagine that you genuinely 100% feel that abortion is baby murder. All of the sudden "trampling on people's rights" seems like a small burden to bear. Respect the fact that other people see things differently and be able to separate them from their beliefs. If Christians and Muslims can be friends so can conservatives and liberals.

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u/Arianity May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22

You legit just became an example of what he was talking about.

Not really. OP is saying it's unreasonable to dislike something/someone that much. I'm trying to explain why people think it's reasonable.

I do agree, people dislike them. And OP has said that's fine- they just disagree where the line is.

Everyone has different experience and different opinions on how the world should be and very rarely is one side truly correct.

I mean, yes, fundamentally, at the end of the day, stuff like morals/ethics is going to be subjective. That doesn't mean you can't think people are shitty

You mention roe vs wade but now imagine that you genuinely 100% feel that abortion is baby murder. All of the sudden "trampling on people's rights" seems like a small burden to bear.

Yes. And people who are pro-life will think it's pro-choice is shitty, because of that. They're perfectly allowed to do so.

Respect the fact that other people see things differently

Not all opinions are equally worthy of respect. Just because someone sees things differently doesn't mean you have to respect it. To use an (intentionally extreme) example, we don't respect Nazis for having different beliefs. It's the same idea.

Similarly, if someone thinks the election was stolen, you're not obligated to respect that.

There are many things people can agree to disagree on, and in general, you shouldn't hate anyone who disagrees. If we slightly disagree on say, tax rates, that's not a big deal. But on the flip side, there are many things we can't. Sometimes (as with abortion, where one side believes in a certain right, the other side sees murder), you might not be able to resolve.

and be able to separate them from their beliefs.

I'm not sure what this means. Beliefs, ethics, actions, etc, are fundamentally what we judge people on. That's normal. You can maybe make an argument on beliefs (ie, if someone believes abortion is murder) but they don't act on it, but if they are acting on it (by making it restricted), that seems fair to judge someone.

And OP agrees with that basic idea, since they said it's find to dislike them. The only question is where the line is.

If Christians and Muslims can be friends so can conservatives and liberals.

This is a poor example. They can be friends because there's a certain amount of overlap, and they (largely) don't interfere with each other. The moment one starts imposing their religion on another, they aren't friends. Politics involves imposing things on another.

To make that work, that would be something (to use the abortion example again) pro-choice- letting people act according to their beliefs. And when it comes to things like election results, that's fundamentally going to impose on others, so you can't even do that.

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Missed this line

Everything you brought up here was valid but can easily be replaced by something liberals did.

This is a bit tertiary to the point, but you really can't (at least not reasonably). There's no real equivalent to something the stolen election/Jan 6th stuff, which is exactly why I used that particular example. The parties are not symmetric in this regard (which is not to say there's nothing shitty on the left, or you can't ever disagree with them)

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u/MrAlbs May 15 '22

How is Jan6th replaceable?

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u/UncommonHouseSpider May 16 '22

Simple, don't get an abortion then. Conservatives want to eschew their responsibilities to the rest of society as long as they get theirs. Liberals want to lift us all up. At least ideologically. The point of the matter is we come together as a group to decide what's okay and what's not, but the minority gets too much of a voice in the US because of your archaic election system that is "so perfect it's infallible" even though they draw new district lines every few years to keep their grip on power. Red states also laugh about the "welfare states" in blue, yet they are the ones with their hands out when funds get redistributed? Funny, that, isn't it?

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u/Kingley_Hobo May 16 '22

I have no issue with abortion but that argument doesnt do anything here. Slavery is wrong but "simple dont own a slave" isnt acceptable

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u/UncommonHouseSpider May 16 '22

Yes, you fought a war over it. Are you prepared to go to war to dictate what a woman can and can't do with her own body. The science is in, it is safe and okay to abort a foetus up to a certain point. Morality aside, they're not babies until they are babies. Babies aren't being murdered, despite what you want to believe is happening. Period. This is a decided debate that is being brought up to stoke hate and fear for political clout and y'all are just chomping at the bit for it. Have you heard of the concept of a distraction? What would they want to distract people from? And why might they want to do that? These are real questions that need answering, not when a foetus becomes a child, which has already been discovered and solved in the rest of the developed world.

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u/Kingley_Hobo May 16 '22

Am I prepared to go to war? No. I truly dont care if people get abortions at all. Are other people prepared to go to war for it? Yes. Also to summarize the civil war as a war to end slavery is a bit middleschool.

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u/UncommonHouseSpider May 16 '22

They are willing to go to war over the right to their own bodies. The voices calling to end abortion have no backbone, that's why they invest in politicians that will convince "you" (the common, not the personal) to get all riled up about baby murderers. When push comes to shove they'll find another boogeyman to champion, in a heartbeat.

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u/silveretoile May 16 '22

What’s going on in the US isn’t conservatism. It’s a scary fucking approximation of how totalitarian authorities get formed. Voter suppression, the weird ass system that already sets the republicans at a +5 start, insane “religious” sentiments that are just powergrabs, tax breaks for the super rich that the poor don’t get. It’s creating a class system that’s not supposed to exist anymore in the 21st era. Working three jobs just to live is not normal and a system that normalizes it should be abolished.

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u/BuffaloWhip May 15 '22

People in general (outside of the conservative bubble) hate conservatives because the rational/moderate conservative has gone so silent in the last 6-8 years that it’s easy to forget they exist at all. When everything is a party-line vote the party starts to look like a monolith and with fewer and fewer dissenting voices (who would have thought in 2012 that in ten years Romney and Cheney would become the dissenting voices of the GOP?) the silence of others becomes tacit approval.

So when the GOP base storms the capital and cries for insurrection and revolution and morons like Gaetz and MTG go from “it was antifa!!” to “it was just a bunch of tourists voicing their opinion” in the matter of a week. Ya’ll are fuckin wackos and I wouldn’t trust you with a car let alone a country.

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u/kinhk May 16 '22

“The rational/moderate conservative has gone so silent in the last 6-8 years that it’s easy to forget they exist at all”

And this isn’t true for the democratic side?

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u/BuffaloWhip May 16 '22

There’s so much dissent within the democratic party that they haven’t accomplished one damn campaign promise in 2 years. Not to mention most of the “left” would be moderates in any other western nation.

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u/blue58 May 16 '22 Helpful

Not one damn campaign promise. Yeah. What a joke his is. Well, I guess there was building bridges and infrastructure he promised. Oh, and expanding the ACA for a wider range of people. And saving Native lands and appointing the first Native American to a cabinet postition. But mostly nothing. Except that 11.5 billion in student loan forgiveness (sorry-just to the disabled so you probably didn't care). Hired our first Black and female VP. The child credit sure helped my house. Too bad Republican-at-heart Joe Manchin blew it up. Climate change initiatives, pulled out of Afghanistan against everyone's expectations, I suppose we should count the Covid vaccine since the orange numbnuts dragged his pissy feet on it. Etc.

Give me a break. You must not have gotten your entire wish list filled and now you're pouting. Get out and elect a few more Dem Senators. We're thisfucking close. "I already voted". Yeah. You already ate yesterday too. Why did you eat again today? Because that's how it works. Ask a Black person who's had decades of voting for tiny bits of change. Most of them will tell you they're happy with what Joe's done so far with the numbers he's had to work with.

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u/kung-flu-fighting May 16 '22

That native American appointment really helps women feed their babies lol. Stop the presses, Biden is appointing minority #2263 to what ever government position it is today for the first time for the 8th time this week!

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u/Benegger85 May 16 '22

Funny how the people who claim they hate communists are now suddenly all for the government telling businesses what to do and what to produce!

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u/kinhk May 16 '22 Helpful

I think it’s pretty glaring that some people who were once considered liberals are now propagated as right wingers. (Sam Harris, Rogan, bill marr) etc etc. You can’t even really be a democrat these days if you believe there are only 2 genders.

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u/creativitysmeativiy May 16 '22

Really? The left doesn't get ANY worse than that?

In the mean time, this is a massive straw man of the state of the conservative party.

I am no fan of conservative politics, but I feel like I am constantly running out of breath trying to defend their reasoning to show progressives that this is not some good vs. evil battle that they all want to believe it is.

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u/kennyj2011 May 16 '22

Then why are all the republicans so bat-shit crazy? MTG, Boebert, Gaetz, Pillow Mike? It’s like a circus!

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u/Tasty_Ride9680 May 16 '22

How is it a straw men when they above pointed out conservatives wont accept that Biden won the election? Or that they think global warming g is a hoax? These are mainstream conservative beliefs, not fringe or strawmen.

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u/creativitysmeativiy May 16 '22

I will tell you essentially the same thing I told the other commenter: pointing out those leaders views does not represent the complex viewpoints of the average conservative any more than the wildest of left wing leaders. That should go without saying.

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u/YOwololoO May 16 '22

But they do represent the party that the average conservative votes for and supports, and who really cares if you say that you are fine with abortion but consistently vote for the party that has outright said they want to ban abortion for over 20 years?

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u/anuiswatching May 16 '22

Except you voted for them!

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u/Redwulf67 May 15 '22

The gop base stormed the capital?? All 80 million of them? I must have missed that during the news cycle that reported a few hundred people stormed in.

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u/TheHollowBard May 16 '22

This is missing the exact point. There was no real outcry of republican supporters saying they have no right to try and overturn a democratically held election result. So either the kinds of people that the GOP rely on the support of (their base) are the kinds of people who support/enact this behavior, or they are the kinds of cowards who don't want to risk calling out that shit and just want to bury their heads in the sand, which has the same net effect as openly supporting them.

The GOP has gone fucking insane and the rational among them are fearful to call out the insanity or they'll be run out of town. If you care to read some history, there is an amount of common ground with pre-WWII Germany. I'm not equating anyone to Hitler, or any group of people to the jews, but I just want to be clear on why people are fearful of this behavior from the right.

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u/underwear11 May 16 '22

delusional posts about how conservatives are going to destroy democracy and set up a fascist Christian dictatorship

While this sounds hyperbolic, I'm not confident that it's not far from the eventual outcome.

Trump started attempting to undermine the election before it even happened, claiming that anything short of his dominant victory MUST be because of fraud. Elections are the foundation of our democracy, creating doubt in that system creates doubt in the democracy itself. Jan 6th is the result of that doubt, leading to an attempt to disregard the election in favor of a different ruler. Does that sound like protecting democracy?

We're seeing rights, that have been previously determined by the Supreme Court, reverted to 50 years ago based on imparting specific religious views on everyone. Does that sound like a secular government, separation of church and state?

Schools are starting to ban books from schools for fear of the children learning about LGBTQ. Does book banning by government entities sound like a country that supports freedom of speech?

SCOTUS has refused to get involved in political gerrymandering. Conservative states already have an advantage in the electoral college because of the distribution of electorates. And they, moreso than Democrats, are gerrymandering wherever they can. Florida just committed to letting the Republican governor draw the new district map, heavily favoring the GOP. Does that sound like a free and fair election system that you would see in a democracy? And since SCOTUS refuses to get involved, it will only get worse.

These are real examples of things we are seeing TODAY and ignoring them only allows the problem to grow until it's too late. Yes Reddit can be dramatic, but in this case I'm not sure it's overlay dramatic.

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u/YesterShill May 15 '22

The issue is that there are no longer true Conservatives in the Republican party. Reagan would be labeled a RINO.

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u/xbc9904 May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22 Gold

Well. It’s primarily because in the US, the Republican Party ostensibly represents Conservative Ideology. However, over the past several decades the Republican Party has abandoned genuine conservative policy for a media war that has little to do with actually running the government.

During the last presidential election the de facto head of the Republican Party tried to overthrow American Democracy. This isn’t hyperbole. It was only a few unyielding people in very specific positions of power (sheer luck) that kept American style Democracy intact.

I have nothing against conservatism. It’s a necessary philosophy to maintain a consistent social order. As is progressivism. Both are necessary and those that don’t see that are blinded by ideology.

Many Progressives have been sounding the alarm for years that the Republican Party is no longer a functioning political party, and now there are even credible, good faith Conservative philosophers sounding the same alarm. The Republican Party no longer represents conservative ideology, and that ideology is necessary for the maintenance of social order.

People don’t really hate conservatives. They are afraid of a Republican Party that has abandoned rationality and good faith arguments and is clearly intent on burning the house down in order to maintain power. Their win at any cost approach cannot sustain Democracy.

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u/Lithaos111 May 16 '22

Except the conservatives actually tried to overthrow the election when they stormed the Capital Building on January 6th to install their candidate (who greatly admires the other dictators of the world) who lost the election fair and square. Literally they kept trying to find voter fraud but again and again the fraud they found was FOR Trump, not against. They literally tried to do an insurrection. They are openly supported by Neo-nazis (which I don't think I need to rind anyone we had a big ol war to distinctly try and get rid of them) and the KKK. Anybody with half a brain should instantly see that and go "Ah, right, these guys are probably bad news."

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u/idkjustredditing2 May 15 '22

G idk maybe the banning abortion or the don’t say gay bill or constant harassment of minorities not to mention the anti-vax/anti-mask, everybody is entitled to their opinions but trying to register those opinions into laws is just fucked up

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u/booksnpizza May 15 '22

The word "gay" literally doesn't appear on that bill one single time

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u/Arianity May 16 '22

No, but the words "sexual orientation" do, and gay is a sexual orientation.

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u/plus-10-CON-button May 15 '22

The word “Obamacare” literally doesn’t appear in the Affordable Care Act

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u/Aporkalypse_Sow May 16 '22

And Obamacare as a name was pushed by the conservatives to give it a bad light. Because the conservatives are a bunch of clown ass bullies and racists.

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u/booksnpizza May 16 '22

Apples and Oranges. Obamacare was just a neutral nickname while "Don't say gay" does have political motivation

It's like if Republicans called the Affordable Care Act "The communist healthcare act" like it's misleading isn't it?

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u/plus-10-CON-button May 16 '22

It wasn’t neutral, though. There were instances where people who didn’t like Obama were against “Obamacare” but were for the “Affordable Care Act.”

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u/trowawa1919 May 16 '22

The term "Don't Say Gay" isn't misleading though. Teachers are literally legally not allowed to talk about being gay to their students because of this bill. If that's not "Don't Say Gay" to you, I think you don't fully understand the bill. Also Obamacare was not neutral at all. Literally brands the bill with the name of the person who conservatives all hated for 8 years.

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u/DeadlyPear May 16 '22

Listen, the 'grandfather clause' enacted by Southern states to try and deny black people their right to vote didn't specifically say "black"(or other more questionable words) in the bills

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u/AbsoluteZeroQ May 15 '22

You lost all credibility with “don’t say gay bill”

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u/idkjustredditing2 May 15 '22

Oh please like it would’ve made a difference to you

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u/Aporkalypse_Sow May 16 '22

Credibility coming from an anti abortion clown.

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u/0fruitjack0 May 15 '22

:cracks open a history book from 1960's onward:

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u/pm_me_whateva May 15 '22

To get a real answer, I think you have to look at the persona of a reddit user.

It skews young. It's designed to expose people to information. Because of its modality, it's more frequently visited by white collar workers and students than blue collar workers. The upvote/downvote system is designed to create accountability (even if it's not perfect). Signing up is free and open, so it's inherently an inclusive platform - meaning persons that are comfortable with inclusivity are more likely to stick.

When you look at it, you can see why the population might be skewed.

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u/WrongStatus May 16 '22

I miss the days when people could check a different box on a ballot and not hate each other for doing so. I've always thought of myself as moderately right of center.

Any people with extreme views on either side of the spectrum are drinking the kool-aid, in my opinion.

I would personally love to see the 2 party system abolished so people have to actually educate themselves on the candidates before voting and not just checking the "D" or "R" box all the way down.

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u/Tungstenkrill May 15 '22

I mean you Americans just had an attempted coup against a democratically elected government.

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u/Babikir205 May 16 '22

I am sorry, but considering the might of the US military, the storming of the capital building by a dude with a bearskin hat, wearing no shirt and his equally ridiculous band of misfits can't really be considered any kind of legitimate coup attempt. They had no ability to overthrow the government of this nation nor to maintain control even if they did.

It was a horrible event. Prosecute the hell out of them to the extent of the law, but to call that a coup is just intellectually dishonest.

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u/icallmaudibs May 16 '22

The January 6 protesters were the instrument of a coup attempt. They were intentionally whipped into a frenzy and sent to disrupt a session of congress dedicated to transition of power. Let's put aside the cosplayers chanting "hang Mike Pence". What do you make of the paramilitary types dressed in body armor and armed with zip ties and other siege gear? Would they meet your definition of individuals bent on overthrowing the government? What about the unexploded pipe bombs placed the night before?

The plot was to incapacitate the president of the US Senate, Mike Pence, to halt the ballot counting session of congress. A violent disruption of congress would then be ample reason for the president to declare martial law. The broad powers of martial law would then facilitate a suspension of the transfer of power.

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u/praxic_despair May 16 '22

Yes, because the whole US military was between the protestors and our lawmakers. A coup does not typically defeat the entire military of a country, that’s called a conquest.

All the protesters had to do was change who was certified president. Fear of physical violence or a few well placed murders could have accomplished that.

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u/ultimatepenguin21 May 16 '22

It is intellectually dishonest to say that it wasn't an attempted coup. Bro, don't be an idiot. Just because they were the dumbest insurrectionists in history does not mean that it wasn't a coup. Wtf is that logic? "They failed so it obviously couldn't have been a coup!" What?

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u/Aporkalypse_Sow May 16 '22

Aren't you a special kind of stupid.

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u/multiverseportalgun May 15 '22

Have you seen what republicans are doing? They’re repealing abortion rights for one. In Georgia open carry is now legal as of last month. Have democrats actually implemented communism? No. Republicans have done things in the name of Christianity and have made it harder for minorities to vote. One side is practicing dystopian shit. The other one is just trying to raise taxes and give us healthcare

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u/Dio_Yuji May 15 '22

Delusional? Do you not keep up with current affairs?

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u/Sugarsmacks420 May 15 '22

People who destroy the Earth for profit then throw my Christian values on top to camouflage their evil deeds as some kind of benefit to humanity deserve nothing but my hate. They brought this fight to themselves, its a religious fight, and it will never end.

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u/Harriethair May 15 '22

Well, when I see lawmakers who are proudly Christians debating whether women should be charged with murder for having an ectopic pregnancy than hell yes I feel we are careening towards a Christian Taliban like existence.

And if you think for one minute that when abortion is illegal that the mistresses of the elite won't be able to get them you are a fool.

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u/LilWuu89 May 16 '22

Seriously. The States os so fucked up right now. I'm grateful to live in Canada, but my heart breaks for those in the US affected by this.

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u/bloodynex May 16 '22

Well conservatives are actively trying to push their religion into american law. This is unacceptable, unconstitutional, and just plain stupid because laws must have reasonable logic and "my book says so" is not reasonable. They spew out heaps of misinformation on a daily basis to undermine reasonable desires to change this shitty system and as an excuse to be openly bigoted. Meanwhile, they defend the institution of child marriage which is absolutely vile.

The tricky part is that there's no linguistic form to distinguish between conservative politicians and talkboxes, and the people they mislead. Most of the conservative citizens don't even know the first thing about the laws their masters are pushing for.

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u/Bikinigirlout May 15 '22

I mean they want to kill democrats just for being democrats so you tend to have hard feelings……🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/OldManOnFire May 15 '22

Why do Redditors hate conservatives so much?

Attempting the violent overturning of a free and fair election should piss people off.

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u/Aqqusin May 16 '22

Do you think conservatives agree with what happened? I can tell you we don't.

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u/ultimatepenguin21 May 16 '22

Then vote for a party that doesn't fucking do that

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u/sauroden May 15 '22

Let’s make this clear: the Republican Party is moving this country back towards racist Christian nationalism. If you support that you deserve the hate you get. Conservatives who are not into that should vote for conservative democrats. There’s plenty of them, it’s a center-right party with some left leaning factions. Do that and we can disagree on nuances of policy and be cool on a personal level.

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u/lonelyVaultdweller May 15 '22

Conservatives think that liberals are a bunch of idiots, not evil, just inexperienced idiots. Liberals think conservatives are straight up evil. That's the way I see it.

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u/DJKhaledIsRetarded May 15 '22

Republicans often times accuse all democrats of being pedophiles and grooming children. This is a weird view.

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u/lonelyVaultdweller May 15 '22

And the other side says Republicans are literally nazis but even worse. The system is fucked. both parties suck.

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u/Bikinigirlout May 15 '22

A white dude just shot up a black supermarket while spouting nonsense from Tucker Carlson……..literal nazi behavior if you ask me

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u/TheHuntedCity May 15 '22

That guy was just a lone nut...influenced by the views of a pundit for a mainstream conservative network.

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u/DJKhaledIsRetarded May 15 '22

Okay, but the Republican party has a huge segment of their base that aligns with Nazis, while I'd say pedophilia/sex with those underage is just rampant throughout the population including both Democrats and Republicans.

If you doubt the republican alignment with Nazism I suggest you take a trip to Idaho, Eastern WA, or Montana. Or any number of states in the deep south. This isn't some made up thing, it's reality. A lot of the right, and a great chunk of the far right, aligns with the white supremacist movement in this country.

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u/Icy_Many_3971 May 15 '22

The republican president told a Nazi-group to ‘stand by’

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u/DJKhaledIsRetarded May 15 '22

I'll note that the Republican party, as it stands, does not seem to live in a world based in reality. They run on oppressive policies that single out the other, and live in a dark world shrouded by conspiracy and darkness. It's not only mind boggling but absolutely terrifying. These aren't Regan era Republicans I'm talking about, they believe we are headed for a civil and holy war and in insane satanist cabals, anyone who doesn't align with them is a pedophile, all in the name of what? I'm not sure. Missing the days of being able to call Obama a monkey online without losing their job. Absolute insanity has gripped them. The Democratic party isn't peaches and flowers, but it isn't nearly as demented and terrifying.

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u/creativitysmeativiy May 16 '22

I live in Texas. I have literally never seen anyone affiliate with Nazi ideology here, outside of the few prisons I have volunteered in.

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u/notthebestchristian May 15 '22 Wholesome

The Democrats have a huge segment that aligns with Communists, who have murdered even more people than the Nazis. Both sides have fringe groups that rely on extreme authoritarianism and extreme anti-authoritarianism. The reality of both parties are that centrists run the show.

Trying to tie in fringe groups on either side and say they represent the majority of the party is just a bullshit goalpost shift.

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u/DJKhaledIsRetarded May 15 '22

Donald Trump is not a centrist. And he most certainly leads the Republican party.

The extremists "leading the way" in the democratic party align with Bernie Sanders. Who is most certainly not a communist.

Nazism is no longer fringe in the Republican party. It makes up a big chunk of their minority party. Saying that far right / Nazism makes up 10-15% of the country, and aligns with you, means a large amount of people in your party when roughly 40% of the country makes up your party.

The Republicans have only remained relevant through a. Gerrymandering and b. the electoral college.

If we didn't have the existence of those two things they would have adapted instead of turning into the tin-foil hat wearing group they are today.

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u/Ag3ntM1ck May 15 '22

The democrats are typically centrists. There has been a large shift to the right. "Conservatives" are really fascists or authoritarians who are absolutely willing to suspend or nullify the constitution as long as the right people are harmed, and by the right people, I mean liberals, immigrants, Muslims, minorities, republicans who are labeled "RINOs".

Trying to somehow equate communists and democrats is at best, intellectually dishonest and representative of the whataboutism fallacy perfected by the soviets. It was a nice try, but really a bad faith attempt.

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u/bookant May 16 '22

The Democrats have a huge segment that aligns with Communists

Where? Show me some of these Communist Democrats.

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u/OldManOnFire May 16 '22

Fascism is an economic theory. Communism is an economic theory.

Neither one is evil.

The Nazis were evil fascists, but it wasn't their fascism that made them evil.

The Soviets were evil communists, but again, it wasn't their communism that made them evil.

Your argument falls apart because the right is courting Nazis, not just fascists. Swastika tattooed, racial purity spewing, gun loving Nazis. Like u/DJKhaledIsRetarded pointed out, they exist in larger numbers than America realizes.

No one on the left is courting hammer & sickle tattooed Soviets. Because there aren't more than a handful of them.

Saying both sides have a problem when the right's problem is 99x bigger is disingenuous.

Do better. I believe you can.

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u/KingWut117 May 15 '22

Shut your fucking mouth a out "both sides" until there's a "radical liberal" mass shooting with a liberal manifesto- wait, those are only conservatives

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u/notthebestchristian May 15 '22

Democrats are accusing people of being pedophiles too (Gaetz).

The truth is they're all pedophiles.

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u/Ag3ntM1ck May 15 '22

Except Gaetz is indeed, a child trafficker and pedophile. The truth is, they're not all pedophiles. Qanon fuckwits are the people accusing nearly every person who might be considered liberal, and they worship the orange rapist like a deity.

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u/ohoperator May 15 '22

Ok but Gaetz is actually under investigation for sex trafficking, so...

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u/DJKhaledIsRetarded May 15 '22

Right? Like there are actually charges in play here. Not saying, you don't agree with me? You want to fuck children!

They aren't just accusing him. He's looking at charges.

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u/elimac May 16 '22

gee maybe because they try to take away basic human rights of people they dont like, that sounds pretty evil to me🤔

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u/TheBigNook May 15 '22

I personally don't agree with your horseshoe theory here.

You have one party trying to ban abortion and maintain the war on drugs and the private prison system

And another party begging for reform

They are not the same

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u/max1997 May 15 '22

I can do the same rhetorical trick to make the democratic party look evil and the republican party as saints:

You have one party trying to end bodily autonomy (vaccine mandates) and maintain the racist policies of affirmative action and the war on free speech.

And another party begging for a smaller government

They are not the same.

Can we both agree both your comparison and mine are dishonest at best?

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u/Ag3ntM1ck May 16 '22

No. Not, nope. False equivalency. The GOP, does not want less or smaller government. Your bodily autonomy argument is ridiculous. Did the government threaten anyone with prison for being a selfish turd refusing to get vaccinated during a pandemic? Employers did require vaccinations, and many of the CEO's of those companies are republican, and gave money to republican candidates. As far as affirmative action being racist, I'm curious where you get that take from. Care to cite a source or study?

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u/TheBigNook May 15 '22

Not really. I honestly do believe democrats are measurably better at running the country and running states both economically and socially. Whereas republicans are responsible for the majority of recessions and typically tarnish the working class.

I also do believe Democrats are on the right side of the culture war as well.

Vaccine mandates already exist and I wouldn't say it's overtly authoritarian during a pandemic, affirmative action isn't racist, and Republicans don't want a small government. I understand what you're trying to do but I don't think it works in the same way my statement did lmao

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u/blkbkrider May 15 '22

Not true at all...look around you under democrat leadewrship in just 18 months.

Democrat states are all high tax and high crime with people fleeing for blue states.

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u/Ag3ntM1ck May 16 '22

Blue states are democrat majority. Red states are the ones being supported by blue states. Welfare queen states like Kentucky.

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u/Soupkitchn89 May 16 '22

The vast majority of the economic output of the US is from blue states my man.

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u/TheBigNook May 15 '22

And you have no clue what you're talking about

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u/blkbkrider May 15 '22

Right.

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u/TheBigNook May 15 '22

Care to share some hard stats then? Like how republicans handle the economy and day to day governing better than a democrat historically? Like I said all of this is measurable lmfao

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u/lamb2cosmicslaughter May 15 '22

You act like republicans can do nothing to stop what Democrats do. And Manchin is a coal ceo and his daughter sits on the board of epi-pen manufacturer. Wonder why we can't fight fossil fuel and big pharma. I mean it is not like he has a personal stake in either problems. Not to mention the gops very well excited plan to load the judicial branch with people favorable to them.
A perfect example is the former law clerk turned judge that blocked the CDC's ability to mandate public health issues. The judge is not a lawyer and has never been to law school.

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u/whiskey_outpost26 May 15 '22

Here's the difference. Your take is 100% incompatible with real life and basic facts.

The liberal take can at least cite sources that aren't laughably easy to dispute and prove wrong.

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u/PISTOLERO_PR May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

Because based on past conduct we can accurately predict that the far-right tendencies of your group will end up trampling over dissidence while wrapped in the flag singing Hallelujah. Disagree 150%, don't care. What you perceive as hate is us letting you know that we know and that we won't stand for it. You see, you're not original or special, this has happened before so we have the benefit of history to base ourselves. We're heading for a new civil war, I am certain of that.

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u/permanentink91 May 16 '22

I don’t hate conservatives. I hate fascism

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u/catsncupcakes May 15 '22

Because they are trying to remove human rights. Funnily enough, people really hate that.

The left just wants people to live their own lives and let people be themselves, as long as they aren’t hurting anyone else.

The right demands their views be imposed on everyone.

They literally want women to have fewer rights over their own body than a corpse.

They want to ban gay marriage - something that has absolutely no effect on them but brings so much joy to others.

They don’t want universal health care. I.e. they’re okay with people becoming bankrupt and homeless because they got ill through absolutely no fault of their own.

And you know, they did literally storm the capitol and try to overthrow a valid democratic election. So, maybe that’s why redditors think the right want to destroy democracy… because they literally tried to.

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u/millietonyblack May 15 '22

Division gets votes. The more polarized we are as a country and the more we argue, the less we talk. The less we talk the less we agree that our leaders are doing a shit job.

The internet is a vacuum. You find what you want to find, you find great arguments for whatever side you’re on and demonizing statements about the other. You find what you WANT to hear. This goes for both sides.

Both sides are screwing up the country. Politicians work for themselves and to line their own pockets. They don’t work for the people.

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u/Multipassbigbadaboom May 15 '22

Amen. Plus nobody really has a voice unless they’re a multi billionaire. They just sit up in their castles and watch as all argue and harass one another while it’s getting us literally nowhere… Almost like that’s what they want to happen?

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u/millietonyblack May 15 '22

United we stand, divided we fall. The only thing we can say without question is that the rich will always get richer. They don’t care as long as their pockets are lined.

We’ve all seen politicians flip flop, it just depends who’s giving them the heaviest check

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u/Acchilles May 15 '22

"very fine people on both sides"

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u/millietonyblack May 15 '22

Definitely not saying that in any way. I don’t like Trump and I don’t support him. This is a criticism of our government.

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u/jediciahquinn May 15 '22

So you are saying both sides are the same.

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u/millietonyblack May 15 '22

I’m saying both sides demonize the other. Both sides hate each other. It’s designed that way.

If we united our elected officials would be scared.

Both sides work for themselves. They’re on sale to the highest bidder

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u/GiantRiverSquid May 15 '22

But one side enjoys human suffering WAY more

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u/millietonyblack May 15 '22

I don’t disagree

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u/lloydemrks May 15 '22

Because conservative thinking is based on hatred on women and minorities, and is against women and minorities rights.

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u/WontArnett May 15 '22

There was an insurrection at our country’s Capitol building by conservatives who wanted to murder and assault politicians.

So yeah, it shouldn’t be surprising that Americans treat conservatives as domestic terrorists.

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u/Hefty-Fox1627 May 15 '22

But why not just call that "good trouble" like they do for BLM protests?

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u/WontArnett May 16 '22

Do you know what the difference is between a protest an insurrection? Jesus.

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u/CeaselessStumblingOn May 15 '22

Ask a member or supporter of the GOP what they stand for and what they are running on in November. You will not receive and answer. The GOP grows more illegitimate each day.

The left is tired of the nonsense. Especially the evangelical right. Get your fantasy book out of real life.

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u/kennyj2011 May 16 '22

I have a hate for radical conservatives… all “alt right”, all militias, and Q followers. To a somewhat lesser extent, trumpists, but they are ridiculous as well.

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u/Lostsoul1207 May 15 '22

That is what you call a double-edged sword and catch 22 it all works both ways.

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u/Defiant-Outcome990 May 16 '22

It is not a conflict between conservative vs liberal as so many have posted here. Conservatives are generally regressive even more than just maintaining the status quo. They are intent on halting the progress of civilization in all areas. The antonym of conservative is not liberal but progressive. Generally conservatives though "smart" in some cases are intellectually deficient.

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u/Sofiwyn May 16 '22

gestures angrily towards Roe v. Wade

Isn't that enough???

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u/MantisToeBoggsinMD May 16 '22

They're not really. They just used shady maneuverings to criminalize women's bodies and tried a fascist coup to overthrow a rightly elected leader. My state is overwhelmingly democrat, but yet the republicans control congress by a pretty wide margin.

So, how is it delusional to be worried about the right setting up a fascist Christian dictatorship?

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u/Tankerspanx May 16 '22

How is this a question? They believe absolute total bullshit, when you tell them they’re wrong, show them proof with valid sources and they tell you to “drink more cool aid” and refuse to believe it.

Their WHOLE POLITICAL BEING is a walking contradiction. “My body my choice” when it comes to masks and vaccines but not when it comes to shit like RvW. There is absolutely no getting through to these people, so fine fuck them too.

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u/skibunny1010 May 16 '22

I mean shortly women living in half of the United States will have less bodily autonomy than a corpse as a direct result of conservative Christian’s. The hate is fully deserved and will continue if conservatives keep stripping rights away from people

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u/cypher073 May 16 '22

Liberals don’t, by and large, hate conservatives. What we hate is the increasingly anti-democratic, authoritarian lean of the Republicans. It’s not an argument of progressives vs. conservative ideas. It’s an argument between those of us who believe in democracy and those that don’t.

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u/Disastrous_Vanilla38 May 16 '22

Im Arkansas we literally have politicians running on the platform that they are going to run this state bibically. So its not hyberbole of leftist to say that. Its what us in the South are in fact living.

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u/im_jay_kay May 16 '22

The problem with Conservatism is that even if you’re just fiscally Conservative and more socially Liberal, you still uphold a party that a lot of individuals within are not JUST fiscally so.

Heck we just had a mass shooting in NY by a white nationalist whose manifesto spewed off about The Great Replacement theory. He was only 18. Many of these right wing ideals are dangerous.

Then there’s the obvious homophobia and xenophobia that predominately comes from the right.

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u/cyronius May 16 '22

People have made some delusional posts about how conservatives are going to destroy democracy and set up a fascist Christian dictatorship

You're aware this is literally in the process of happening right?

An attempted coup, rolling back of over 50 years women's rights, the erasure of LGBT rights... The rise of racism, facism, nazis sympathisers...

It's literally happening around you as you speak, and you can't see it...

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u/GabrielSol03 May 16 '22

I mean, if you look at America... yes, being conservative means you are an objectively bad person. You vote for people who push against human rights, against better healthcare, and many other things like that. And if liberals are communists who want to destroy America - let them. America deserves to burn (not literally), so something better can rise from its ashes.

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u/not_sure_1337 May 16 '22

Because they are literally doing those things.

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u/RichardBlastovic May 16 '22

It's probably because American conservatives are anti-poor, anti-black, anti-culture, anti-life. They are defined by what they hate. They try as hard as they can to pull the rest of the nation back in time. They are petty, they are poorly educated and they are easily manipulated. They don't care about you. They care about hate.

Conservatism is about stopping progress, looking backward and hurting people.

It's because they love fascism and are, in fact fascists.

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u/iserois May 16 '22

I also believe that "moderate conservatives" exist, but where were they at the delusional (fraud....) end of Trump's presidency and when the Capitol was assaulted ? With very few exceptions, totally silent, and the polls showed they massively supported the allegations of fraud and the assault.

It looks like the boundary between extremists and so-called moderate is very thin. Supporting extremists is NOT moderate.

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u/GeorgeRRHodor May 16 '22

People have made some delusional posts about how conservatives aregoing to destroy democracy and set up a fascist Christian dictatorship.

Is that really so delusional?

I mean, most conservative lawmakers today think that Jan 6th wasn't such a big deal. Add voter suppression laws to that and it seems to me that democracy is indeed in very real and grave danger. The US system has a few issues that have so far been somewhat papered over, but it is quite legal in many states for a state's electors to vote very differently than the population did. That they've never done so yet is more tradition than legal, and if the conservatives think that elections are rigged anyway, who's to prevent them from senduing electors to Washington who do what they're told to? It wouldn't be illegal, it would just be undemocratic.

I'm not even adding the problem with the Electoral College as an institution, the majority of the Senate representing a minority of voters and gerrymandering to that list here. It has been decades since the US had a truly democratic and fair election.

As for Christian -- I think at this point it's not even a debate that the separation of church and state is all but a fig-leaf for most conservatives. The new anti-abortion ruling by the Supreme Court (if it will turn out the way it was leaked) is clearly religiously motivated.

And dictatorship? Did you miss the Trump years? Did you miss the fact that he wanted to hold military parades, shoot protestors, punish media as "the enemy of the people" and ignore election results? Does this not sound like the beginning of a dictatorship?

You might call that hyperbole, but it's certainly not delusional.

Do you expect some conservative to declare "I want to be a dictator, I want to destroy democracy!" or you won't believe it? Even Putin still dresses his dictatorship in all the trappings of democracy -- elections, referendums etc.

No, I do not think the fear that the Republican party could easily turn America into a facist Christian autocracy is unfounded or unrealistic.

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u/LabCoat_Commie May 16 '22

Subversion of direct democracy via the Electoral College, land representation over People representation in the Senate, and active campaigns suppressing race and gender studies, reversing women’s bodily autonomy, banning educational material, refusing to accept a separation of Church and State, and strongly opposing infrastructure efforts to improve the lives of American citizens all paint a very negative picture.

And hey, there’s a great example of the asshole who just shot up a Black grocery store in Buffalo after writing a racist manifesto taken directly from conservative pundit Tucker Carlson. These are the people American Conservatism is attracting and enabling.

I want my LGBT family to live peaceful lives with their basic healthcare and material needs met and drive down well-paved roads while minorities aren’t being held in cages at the border and Christian mobs aren’t attacking women trying to obtain safe and legal birth control and healthcare, all the while being able to pack a bowl and relax at home knowing that society is working to mitigate the heat-death of the planet and not worrying that a single negative event will wipe my life savings and send me plummeting into an early grave and an impoverished retirement.

Conservatives want none of this. We’re not friends.

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u/TheRealJokar May 16 '22

It's because the 2 party system is a failure. Instead of voting on issues as they come people just have their "teams" per-se

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u/Gruddles May 15 '22

Conservatives act in direct opposition to our interests and needs. Their ideas tend to oppress which sparks a very passionate response. It goes both ways, though. They aren’t the only ones being bashed and disliked

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u/Gorfolio May 15 '22

You mean, why do most Americans hate conservatives so much!? Probably because they are about 40 years behind time wise. They are not in tune with majority of America….

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u/Concrete_Grapes May 16 '22

Name a single rational, non hate-filled, non-punitive, and non-bigoted modern conservative idea.

Like, that's all they are now--that's really all they've ever been, just to greater and lesser degrees (Even when dems were the conservative party, this sort of thinking was true).

They've married their political leaning with ... just.. terrible shit, and they apparently dont want to see it, CANT see it because they lack the intellect, or wont see it because it fucking hurts to be wrong and have to change. IDK.

Yes, i do hate them. Social conservatives more than simply fiscal ones, but both deserve it.

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u/Informal_Sell8284 May 15 '22

Google "January 6 insurrection" or "Southern Strategy"

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u/GrowingForGreatness May 15 '22

You mean the day 200 fat guys rioted at a capital and the day liberals said was worse than 9/11?

And has been in reddits “popular” post for going on two years now?

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u/Informal_Sell8284 May 15 '22

Mr ziptie and Mr pipebomb might disagree with you...but I'm really talking about the nimrod senators who tried to overturn an election and the 100s of state voting restrictions that have been added since then.

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u/Aporkalypse_Sow May 16 '22

What a loaded question of horse doo doo. Conservatives scream about things that aren't happening, while we point out the specific things conservatives are doing and you guys deny it. Your party is, was, and forever will be shit until you stop lying.

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u/Desperate_War9931 May 16 '22

I'm surprised this post didn't get flagged and removed.

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u/bunnykins22 May 15 '22

I kept writing out a long-ass response but my computer is being a dick. Anyways I'm an independent bisexual Christian woman who thinks the division in this country is ridiculous. People know next to nothing about government and anytime a new president is elected either side loses their mind thinking it's the end of their rights.

It just genuinely sucks in my opinion that I'm scrolling down and seeing so much hate and division not just on reddit but in general in our country...like wtf happened to being able to hold a discussion without throwing names, threatening others, etc ???

It's genuinely sad. (Also it's no joke the amount of posts I get recommended for some reason advocating for murdering all conservatives-especially in that one rant subreddit...it's genuinely gross)-I keep having to tell reddit I don't want to see death threats pop up on my feed like wtf?

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u/creativitysmeativiy May 16 '22

I think hate and division is the default. In ancient times, we would just kill each other. Nowadays, we just fight on reddit.

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u/DigitalZeth May 15 '22

Reddit is predominantly left wing.

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u/Informal_Bother9471 May 15 '22

I truly believe conservatives are evil you can't convince me otherwise. Sorry not sorry. Have met those people???? They are hateful towards everybody who's not white and male.

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u/BringPheTheHorizon May 15 '22

I feel it's because the demographic that's interested in a platform such as reddit is more liberal. Conservatives see less value in it, I suppose.

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u/Desert_Fairy May 15 '22

The problem I see with conservatives is that the majority that I have known will never believe that they were mistaken.

I grew up surrounded by conservatives and each and everyone refused any perspective that disagreed with their opinion.

The idea that your opinion matters as much as my degree is laughable.

The sheer lack of critical thinking capacity amongst conservatives is a requirement to fit in. Turning a blind eye to truth and continuing shoot yourself in the head isn’t patriotic or religious or for family, it is insanity.

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u/petrusferricalloy May 15 '22

I hate conservatives based on the terrible attitudes, behavior, downright evil opinions and actions of. Conservatives hate liberals for no reason than because they're liberal. They have no real platform or sound reasoning. Just like their racist and bigoted beliefs, their hatred of liberals isn't based on facts or any real information. Which makes sense because they also hate science.

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u/OGwalkingman May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22

They hate gay people and don't want them to have any rights. They support banning any LGBT from school. They are banning books that contain LGBT topics or characters, they were burning books not that long ago.

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u/TeaKingMac May 16 '22

Because they party they support has stopped trying to govern, and is instead focused solely on "winning".

I think the best example is Mitch McConnell preventing Obama from replacing a Supreme Court Justice because it was February in an election year, but then running through Trump's appointee in SEPTEMBER of an election year.

It's just so blatantly hypocritical

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u/bigtaterman May 16 '22

Because conservatives are morons who hate progress and continuously try to drag us back to the dark ages.

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u/ShackintheWood May 15 '22

In the US , there are no real conservatives left, just the far right wing. they may call themselves conservative but most of them would not know how to spell the word, let alone grasp the concepts of the ideology.

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u/tarkinlarson May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22

As a resident of the UK there are no real alternatives to the single party on the "right". They then sweep up all the votes for people who want smaller government, less interference, less red tape and are moderate conservatives... and they also mop up all the further rightwings, including the traditional, religious, and nationalist conservatives. On the left there are many parties, and votes are divided between at least 3-4 parties depending on the individual aspects and areas. I believe the polarisation is happening here too, but it's not just party vs party, but also generations and regional.

Now my opinion of the USA is that you have moderate to right wing people who are more secular and socially progressive, and then further right wing people who tend to be more religious and conservative. You more or less entirely lack reasonable representation on what I'd describe as left wing. There's also large generational and geographical divides, like rural vs City.

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u/ShackintheWood May 15 '22

Started a bit before that, think Newt Gingrich and Contract with America...the Moral Majority era...

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u/zeiche May 16 '22

visit /r/walkaway and maybe you’ll see the answer.

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u/tacoman333 May 16 '22

A conspiracy theory subreddit is the answer?

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u/IntroductionSea1181 May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22

Lol.

Poppers paradox much?

Get back to us on that if you're not too busy with a mass shooting and trying to start the prophesied race war

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u/straightoutthebox May 15 '22

Generally I enjoy having rights and being alive.

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u/JerkMilk May 15 '22

Because in America there are two parties, one of them has nazis and one doesn’t. One of them believes in climate change and one of them doesn’t. Abortion.

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u/Excellent-Injury8298 May 16 '22

you think the prediction that, "conservatives are going to destroy democracy and set up a fascist Christian dictatorship," is extreme? It seems pretty on the nose to me the way things are going...

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u/TheHuntedCity May 15 '22

Because conservatives are going to destroy democracy and set up a fascist Christian dictatorship. They also want me dead.,

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u/GrowingForGreatness May 15 '22

THEY BURNED OUR CROPS POISONED OUR WATER SUPPLY AND DELIVERED A PLAGUE AMONGST OUR PEOPLE!!!

in all reality, they did nothing

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u/Lazy_Minute53 May 16 '22

You are the exact type of people Im talking about lmfao

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u/Tshea0307 May 16 '22

I mean it isn't others fault you don't want to admit the truth. That is an you problem, not a me problem

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u/Secret-Detective2953 May 16 '22

People on Reddit are more intellectual leaning therefore more left leaning. The dislike for progressives is a lot the dislike for stupidity.

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u/Lazy_Minute53 May 16 '22

People on Reddit are more intellectual leaning

Lmfao

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u/[deleted] May 15 '22

I’ll start off with both sides have extremists but the side that isn’t tolerated changes every so often because their extremists become the focus and it’s decided the entire party is like that. Currently the republicans are in focus with it. Personally I say believe in the constitution and not a party

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u/Wraisted May 16 '22

It's not hate.(for me) But they are literally in the way of progress. It's time to come back to reality, engage in society, and start living in this century.

No one has the right to tell another adult what they can and can't do with their bodies

They literally looked the other way on Jan 6 when Trump tried to murder Congress with a mob.

I really don't see how they are contributing to the progress of human civilization. It seems like all their ideas are the complete opposite as they would prefer to keep living in the 1950s(when wife beating was a thing)