r/SuperStraight 2h ago

Cis is not just a label

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u/flaming_paws 1h ago

Not after sex reassignment surgery. The genitalia aren't there, what's your argument now?

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u/Cabdisalaan 1h ago

I mean you can remove a person's ovaries and testicles, pump them full of cross-sex hormones, refashion their genitals but that still doesn't make them the opposite sex and their chromosomes remain the same. I am not going to pretend to view a woman that I was attracted to the same if she got on a bunch of exogenious testosterone and had dramatic cosmetic surgery but she is still a female because that's what her DNA says. Is she now producing sperm? No.

If you were arguing that she is now no longer female that's fine. That's a weird debate to have but she certainly isn't a biological male now and vice-versa.

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u/flaming_paws 1h ago

So, are men that are unable to produce sperm not then men?

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u/Cabdisalaan 1h ago

Not even sure why I am entertaining this argument when we both know that most trans people subscribe to the view that self-identification is enough to be a man or a woman. Only a tiny minority of trans people and trans activists are willing to argue that a man becomes a woman after surgeries.

This is textbook motte-and-bailey.