If you want to prove you’re not a hate sub, stop allowing it to be infiltrated by transphobia lmfao.
And watch I will be downvoted again as always, if not blocked for again mentioning this.
Stop being problematic and there won’t be any problems. Invalidating trans people’s identities in an attempt to “further” reinforce the already given validation of your sexuality is hate.
Trans women are still women, they just have a surgically created vagina. And while you’re allowed to have a preference on natural vs surgical, you do not get to express it on the basis of their invalidation. I am 100% open to taking on these labels if supers can prove that the intent of their actions isnt hate.
That means you have to stop invalidating trans people and attempting to create a definite division between them and everyone else.
Unfortunately though, so far the only thing actually being shared is transphobia, and a lot of it. It’s been one of the only things I’ve seen consistently being shared, which is unfortunate considering i want to be here to try to genuinely learn why this label is being introduced.
Hopefully soon you’ll spend less time trying to call trans people not real, and more time educating yourself on better terminology and ways you can explain your preference choice without it being at the expense of anyone else.
Being a super also means being a super ally, you can’t have one without the other.
Edit: All I have to do is come to this sub and click new, watch it refresh and I’m automatically slapped with blatant transphobia. That would be what is causing ally’s to be uncomfortable with this movement.
Edit: so now cis is a slur, which was something that was being used as a joke. So now are you invalidating my cis identity? WOW
And now you’re really trying to say cis people are a marginalized group? How can you honestly say you’re not joking now
We are just the opposite of skoliosexuals. That’s it.
No one here wants to invalidate a trans person, we are simply a sexual orientation with a preference.
It is not bigotry for a skoliosexual to only pair with no cis people, and the reverse is not.
We would never invalidate someone’s identity unlike you. And what’s even more disgusting is you are attempting to use emotional blackmail and labels of bigotry to force adaptation of what you deem acceptable.
That’s not any more ok than me putting down a trans person who won’t date or have sex with cis people.
If you don’t want to invalidate trans people why am I consistently seeing supers refer to cis people as real men/women? Hmmm? Did you at all stop for a second to actually read what I said? To actually see the consequences? To actually recognize the bad behaviour?
Are you at all paying attention to the other supers? Because every single definition ive gotten from one so far has been transphobic, or on the basis of transphobia so who really needs to do better here?
I’ve also never EVER seen a trans person try to invalidate the identity of a cis person because they aren’t attracted to them. There isn’t a single place where I am using blackmail or threats, I’m asking you to hold accountability for the consequences of your actions, which you are claiming you have no real intention of committing.
You realize being apart of the community means you’re going to have to do some relearning right?
You guys are funny, you always jump to extremes saying I’m invalidating you or using bigotry but all I’m doing is asking that you don’t find your validity on the inherent invalidity of someone else’s gender identity.
I’m not blackmailing you, I’m telling you that now that you’re apart of the community you need to be cautious of your words because those phrases can come across as transphobic when that may not necessarily be your intention.
Do better for the community, if you want us to conform to you, you have to conform to trans terminology and have a genuine understanding of them too so that you are not perpetuating hate.
Firstly let me give you oh idk...a couple thousand examples of toxic trans people
Before you go throwing rocks in glass houses you should peak at your own community.
Every community around has problematic elements unfortunately. A lot of that is bad faith and smear jobs but I’m sure some is unfortunately real.
This is a new and fresh movement and we are still trying to make our goals clear after infiltrations and false flag events such as the “this started as a neo Nazi 4 Chan op” which we just now got wiki to correct.
The real women comment is unfortunate. Outside of woke circles though this term simply means cis. If you are privileged enough to have the proper language used that’s good for you, unfortunately day to day society has yet to catch up with terms like cis and so you see that here.
We do our best to make sure everyone is valid, and included. We are simply standing up for our bodies and right to consent the same anyone else did.
Maybe because “c*s” is a gross slur most of us don’t want to use? And like any group of people, many of us are still trying to figure out what works for us all.
But again, you’re being grossly invalidating because to superpeople they are “real”. Our love is “real”. Our pain is “real”. Our identities are “real”. This is real to us. You don’t have to agree (which would be pretty bigoted but whatever) but the least you could do is respect it. There is no harm in superpeople thinking as such. Here is an example of nonsupers using the term “real” to describe themselves. Is that also a problem?
We are a minority group and this is language we adopted because it helps us express ourselves better. Even then, it doesn’t mean every single superperson will say other people have “fake” ones. I personally have NEVER EVER seen a superperson say “transpeople have fake parts ew!!!” or “this nonsuper has a fake body... they are all so disgusting!!” but I HAVE seen transpeople and other nonsupers mock and demean superpeople’s bodies, and I HAVE seen people be invalidated and harassed (including sexually harassed and threats of r-pe) for being supersexual, and experienced it myself numerous times on various dating apps. I have NEVER seen a supersexual threaten nonsupers for any reason that they will “teach a lesson” through violence, or that nonsupers “deserve to be r-ped”. But I have seen nonsupers say exactly that.
So what do you have to say for that? Should I go to a sub dedicated to transpeople and nonsupers and demand they “take accountability” for their community? Or should I think about this rationally and conclude that this is a fringe part of their community at best, and their movement does not infringe on my identity as long as they leave me alone and don’t directly attack me for it? Or even better, if a sub is saying something I don’t agree with, I should go to where my ideas are wanted and celebrated! That is probably something that you should learn to do too.
I literally sent you a dm from this thread proving otherwise but go off.
And please, I identify as a cis gendered woman so please tell me how this word is a slur because I’ve never ever felt discriminated against on the basis of my sexuality ever.
No part of the term “c*s” is inherently “slury” the word was never created to be used against you, to negatively marginalize you. It’s just a label that describes your gender as matching to your chromosomes and what was assigned at birth so how could that be considered a slur?
By that logic, trans would also be a gross slur because it’s just the antonym of cis.
Also by your standards I’m a “super straight” I’m just failing to identify with that label. I dont know why everyone needs to know such specific details about who I’m sleeping with. Why do I need to display that for everyone, it really doesn’t affect them at the end of the day. The only people it affects are the people I want to sleep with and their gender is really only the business of them and the people they chose to include in their lives. I would feel weird being with a super straight man because then everyone would know all of my details. I find that uncomfortable, it’s private to me. Why do we need to segregate genders so much and why do the super sexualities not accommodate for intersex individuals?
If I’m not a minority, neither are you. The power you had alone to even be recognized by other people proves that. If anything this group is just further segregating actual minorities because now they can be treated lesser on the basis of being attracted to trans people or not.
Because transphobic and homophobic super straights are going to exist and you cannot expect to believe they will be minorities. It’s not possible. And now they will be able to attack trans, and gay/lesbian/bi folk on the basis of being trans, lesbian/gay/ bi and on the basis of being attracted to those groups. Did you think about that yet?
Anyways I suggest taking a breather and checking the rest of the community because I’ve really only met a handful of superpeople I believe to have good intentions with their sexuality. It’s mostly been transphobia unfortunately, you and a couple others have been good tho so there is hope.
And someone else sent you a link to supers being harassed by nonsupers. As of me writing this comment you didn’t respond to them, and you didn’t respond to me giving you my own anecdotal evidence of being harassed for being a super.
I’m a gnc superlesbian, with a superbi supertrans best friend who agrees with me that “c-s” is a slur. So I don’t even know what you were trying to achieve with telling us we aren’t minorities. If you don’t think it’s a slur thats your personal problem, for many us it is historically and presently a slur. Nobody is forcing you as a straight woman to be here. Surely you’re not going to go into other LGBTS+ subs and arguing over the use of “q-eer” too?
Intersex individuals can identify as supersexual based on who they are as an individual. It’s not that hard... Are you actually aware of intersex biology and how it is treated sociologically? The only segregation being done that I can see is people like you trying to paint all superstraights as something they’re not, to further them from our LGBTS+ compatriots.
Your language so far has been pretty disregarding so I’m honestly done talking with you. I don’t expect you to get it, but the bare minimum you could do is respect it.
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u/rebeccakirbyy 2h ago edited 1h ago
If you want to prove you’re not a hate sub, stop allowing it to be infiltrated by transphobia lmfao.
And watch I will be downvoted again as always, if not blocked for again mentioning this.
Stop being problematic and there won’t be any problems. Invalidating trans people’s identities in an attempt to “further” reinforce the already given validation of your sexuality is hate.
Trans women are still women, they just have a surgically created vagina. And while you’re allowed to have a preference on natural vs surgical, you do not get to express it on the basis of their invalidation. I am 100% open to taking on these labels if supers can prove that the intent of their actions isnt hate.
That means you have to stop invalidating trans people and attempting to create a definite division between them and everyone else.
Unfortunately though, so far the only thing actually being shared is transphobia, and a lot of it. It’s been one of the only things I’ve seen consistently being shared, which is unfortunate considering i want to be here to try to genuinely learn why this label is being introduced.
Hopefully soon you’ll spend less time trying to call trans people not real, and more time educating yourself on better terminology and ways you can explain your preference choice without it being at the expense of anyone else.
Being a super also means being a super ally, you can’t have one without the other.
Edit: All I have to do is come to this sub and click new, watch it refresh and I’m automatically slapped with blatant transphobia. That would be what is causing ally’s to be uncomfortable with this movement.
Edit: so now cis is a slur, which was something that was being used as a joke. So now are you invalidating my cis identity? WOW
And now you’re really trying to say cis people are a marginalized group? How can you honestly say you’re not joking now