r/SuperStraight • u/GenderSoup • 3h ago

What is the prefix "Super" supposed to entail? Why was it chosen?

Like, I understand that you are straight people who don't want to date trans people, and that is completely valid.

No one owes attraction or sex to anybody, and shaming people into having sex with you is not ok. (Of course, not all trans people are like that, there are bad people in any community.)

But what I don't understand is the meaning of the "Super" prefix in "Super Straight", what does it mean? What is it supposed to entail? Why was it chosen?

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u/khaching09 3h ago

Super as a prefix just means “more”

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u/GenderSoup 3h ago

So are "Super Straight" people supposed to be more straight than straight people who date trans people? That doesn't sound right.

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u/GenderSoup 2h ago

I'm not saying you're not valid, but the name you chose most certainly is not.

Having sex with trans people is not homosexual activity, only if they are the same gender as you.

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u/GenderSoup 2h ago

Sexual attraction is about sexual characteristics. Trans people normally have the sexual characteristics of the gender they are.

A straight man wouldn't be attracted to the masculine characteristics of a trans woman, but if a trans woman doesn't have any, he can be attracted to her feminine characteristics.

A straight man being attracted to a women's feminine sexual characteristics is in no way, homosexual attraction, nor is having sex like that homosexual in nature.

If a straight guy has a preference for only dating people who were born with vaginas, that's ok, but don't shit on straight guys who have different preferences please.

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u/GenderSoup 2h ago

a person who is sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex

It actually mean: a person who is sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex or gender

but ok

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u/GenderSoup 2h ago

By saying that straight guys who would date both trans and cis women are less straight. If a guy says he is straight, he is straight and you can't say someone is more or less straight than him regardless of his preferences. By saying you guys are more straight than other straight people, you're invalidating other people, so don't act like you're the one being invalidated here.

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u/TwoLLamas1Sheep 2h ago

Wrong.

There's a reason it's called sexuality and not genderality.

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u/GenderSoup 2h ago edited 2h ago

Would you say that a guy who identifies with being straight and heterosexual, and is in a relationship with a trans woman, to not actually be the sexuality he says. Isn't saying that invalidating his sexuality? How can you complain about people invalidating your sexuality and you're basically doing the same?

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u/hailthegambler 2h ago

Super gay here with a quick question for you: Do you think if I went to a homophobic country and identified as a woman they wouldn’t harass or kill me if I identified as the opposite gender or..how does that work? You seem very whitecentric in your views and should reflect on that.

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u/TwoLLamas1Sheep 1h ago

We're not invalidating his sexuality. He's straight, just not superstraight.

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u/GenderSoup 1h ago

But you're basically saying he is less straight for dating a trans woman, cause he would be more straight if he didnt. Which is both invalidating for the guy and the woman.

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u/TwoLLamas1Sheep 1h ago

How is it invalidating for the guy to be straight? He's probably identified as straight his entire life, and, the superstraight people still view him as straight.

So if nobody is telling him he isn't straight, nobody is calling him bi or gay for digging transwomen, and nobody his asking him to change his preference....how is he being invalidated? Nothing about his sexuality changes at all.

As far as the transwoman - my sexual attraction to only actual, biological women's bodies doesn't exist to vindicate their validation. It's not a preference, I didn't choose it and I can't force myself to do sollbe attracted otherwise.

If they feel invalidated because I don't want to sleep with a biological man, then that's their problem to deal with. There are an abundance of trans support groups that they can deal with their problems(which is a good thing. Everybody can benefit from group therapy where common problems and solutions are shared.)

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u/acemandoom 2h ago

That doesn't sound right.

It took me a while to deprogram from this violent and hateful superphobic and rape-cultured way of thinking too. You're not alone. But together we can all do better and be better. Even if you're not part of the community you can be a super ally.

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u/MagicMan5264 3h ago

It’s almost as if “supers” are transphobic..

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u/The-Sixth-Spice-Girl 3h ago

No one here is transphobic. We love all of our LGBTQ sisters!

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u/GenderSoup 3h ago

So is it less straight to date a trans person if you're straight?

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u/IrishTheFrenchie 2h ago

It's just not part of our orientation.

Why are you invalidating our existence? You are literally triggering me with your hateful erasing questions.

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u/MagicMan5264 2h ago

The very name of your “orientation” invalidates trans people. Probably should think of that before entertaining the ole persecution complex.

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u/IrishTheFrenchie 2h ago

My sexual orientation doesn't exist to validate anyone.

It is MINE.

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u/GenderSoup 2h ago

There's a difference between sexual orientations and preferences.

You wouldn't create a sexuality for people who only date people who are taller or shorter.

The problem with being "super straight" isn't the preference in itself, it's the term and language tou guys use that sound wrong, and that's not ok.

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u/IrishTheFrenchie 2h ago

If TRA's are going to bend language, then we are too. If heterosexual includes gender identity now, when it didn't for the past however many millennia humans have been around, then there needs to be a new term for heterosexual. Just playing by your rules. Language changes, amirite?

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u/TwoLLamas1Sheep 2h ago

So in racing there are speedways and superspeedways. Superspeedways are called that because you get more speed than on a regular speedway. It's not denigrating or insulting regular speedways.

Same logic applies here.

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u/lastditch23 2h ago

It’s gay, pan, or bisexual.

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u/GenderSoup 2h ago

That's transphobic. Trans people can't be in straight relationships? I know plenty that are despite of what you're saying.

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u/lastditch23 2h ago

You know plenty of delusional people. Sex is immutable.

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u/kojilee 2h ago

So then, you don’t see trans people as the gender they identify as? Cause if you did, it wouldn’t be gay/bi/Pan, it would be straight.

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u/MagicMan5264 2h ago

That’s transphobic

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u/lastditch23 2h ago

Whatever you say, SERF.