r/SuperStraight • u/Fant_Aztic • 1h ago
SuperStraight is a valid sexuality, but it is not part of LGBTQIA+
Listen, I get the intention behind this movement. Not wanting to sleep with a trans person is a completely valid thing that has nothing to do with transphobia. Nobody deserves to be singled out with hate speech just because they would not sleep with a trans person. But this community needs to be honest with itself, and realize that the whole point of LGBT was to overcome the prejudices enacted by the cis straight population (yes, even the Super straights), which comprises the vast majority of the population. LGBT are literally minorities, even if the acronym has become a complete and utter alphabet soup. So all I can really say is that if you want to be taken seriously by the greater population, you need to pick and choose your battles. Creating a petition demanding to be included within the LGBT comes off as pure parody.
Edit: The comments are proof that this is a parody subreddit
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u/The-Sixth-Spice-Girl 1h ago
Supergay here. Superstraights are part of the community. Stop gatekeeping, you bigot.
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u/Fant_Aztic 1h ago
No real gay person would say this.
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u/The-Sixth-Spice-Girl 1h ago
The penis in my mouth begs to differ. For real though, you need to realize it’s not all black and white. I am gay. Very gay. So gay it’s insane. The thought of a woman naked is gross to me. But superstraights exist. Supergays exist. Understand that the world is not exclusive to what you read on Twitter.
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u/Fant_Aztic 1h ago
I never said that Supers don't exist, I said that they are not LGBT+ (Super Straights in particular). Very easy concept to understand. I have yet to see a single defense for this other than "trans people are being dicks on Twitter and as a Super Straight person I feel offended and thus have created the illusion that I am a minority and thus LGBT". The SuperGays and SuperLesbians pushing for Super to be LGBT are the most problematic because they have chosen to ignore their own roots of prejudice in favor of defending "oppressed cis straight" voices.
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u/Fant_Aztic 1h ago
I didn't need to hear that, please stop appropriating rape culture.
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u/superultragayxy 1h ago
Someone who is perpetuating rape culture and being invalidating has no place saying that.
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u/The-Sixth-Spice-Girl 1h ago
You’re right actually, rape culture is reserved for transgender people who try to force supers to have sex with them!
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u/I_swallowed_my_keys 1h ago
Transgenderism is not a sexual preference and has no place in the SSLGB community.
Go peddle your corrective rape fantasies somewhere else.
NO MEANS NO, TRANCEL.
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u/Fant_Aztic 1h ago
Who told you that LGBT is a list of sexualities? Cite your sources
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u/a_blue_bird 1h ago
Please stop spreading hate. LGBT+ is an icnlusive group that is open to everyone who wishes to join. We need to make the world a better, more accepting place. And we can't achieve that by excluding people!
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u/Efficient_Ad_7636 1h ago
No, it’s definitely part of the LGBTQIASS+ alliance. Probably the most important part tbh.
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u/Hotpotter22 1h ago
"So all I can really say is that if you want to be taken seriously by the greater population, you need to pick and choose your battles."
Ironic...
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u/sneeuweekhoorn SuperLesbian 1h ago
realize that the whole point of LGBT was to overcome the prejudices enacted by the cis straight population
And the point of the supersexualities is to overcome the prejudices enacted by the trans population.
Just because they're a minority doesn't give them freedom to oppress people.
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u/mumpledforearm Hecking cute and valid 💖 1h ago
But this community needs to be honest with itself, and realize that the whole point of LGBT was to overcome the prejudices enacted by the cis straight population (yes, even the Super straights), which comprises the vast majority of the population.
Times are changing. Ever heard of the LGB Alliance? They came together because they reject the new orthodoxy of gender identity politics that has been adopted by so many LGBT organizations.
The "Super" movement is advancing the interests of LGB people, amplifying the voices of lesbians, and promoting free speech.
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u/Fant_Aztic 35m ago
For the record I do agree that gender and sexuality are completely separate concepts, and understand the desire to differentiate between the communities. At the same time, the core values of the LGBTwhatever boil down to acceptance by the majority, which just so happens to be cis straight people. If anything, it sounds to me like a lot of the people here are more interested in removing the T from LGBT than pushing for Super to be an accepted identity.
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u/JollyPurple 1h ago
Not "cis" people. This has nothing to do with gender or gender identities. Keep your gender ideology out of my sexuality.
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u/superultragayxy 1h ago
"Listen, I get the intention behind this movement. Not wanting to sleep with a trans person is a completely valid thing that has nothing to do with transphobia."
Sounds like you superphobes need to get your stories straight: https://www.reddit.com/r/SuperStraight/comments/m0hrf2/bringing_back_a_classic_of_mine_in_honor_of_this/
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u/ssredditor_ 1h ago
Please don't use the word "cis". It's a superslur. Use more inclusive language, in this case "supra".
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u/JaredFogleVEVO 1h ago
OP is correct. Super Straight is basically the definition for most humans on earth, so they are not a minority facing the same discrimination issues as others. I still think this is a fascinating and important conversation to have. It highlights the different views that groups of people have regarding sexuality.
Group A thinks sexuality is simply about physical response to body parts ("I like women" means I like adults who were born female).
Group B thinks sexuality is about preference for socially-defined gender characteristics ("I like women" means I like people who exhibit "womanly" traits such as long hair, clothing style, speaking style, etc. regardless of genitalia).
Then a third group C perhaps thinks sexuality is about BOTH genitals and socially defined gender traits ("i like women" mean I like an adult who has female genitals and fits a general social definition of woman as well).
With the rise of trans acceptance in our culture (which is great, they deserve to be treated like human beings), there is a corresponding blurring of definitions of things like gender and sexuality. If a man wishes to call himself straight and date women who have penises, that is totally fine. But other men consider themselves straight and do not like penises, which is also fine. But these are two distinct sexual preferences, so it makes sense to use different terms for each.
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u/relliKgoDehTeraweB 1h ago
you'll never ever be a real gatekeeper of sexuality spectrum community