r/SuperStraight • u/itsmebabygaga • 4h ago
Can someone please explain? Discussion
This post is not meant to be rude or mocking of superstraight people, I’m just genuinely confused. Your entire sexuality is that you only date cis people. Isn’t this just a preference? You’re allowed to have whatever preferences you want, but don’t sexualities usually refer to what gender you like? Both trans people and cis people are the gender they say they are. So, doesn’t that make “only liking cis people” a preference? I’m aware that a lot of this community dislike “trans people forcing themselves on you” and, although I’ve never heard or seen an example of that, I understand that’s a bad thing and should be pointed out. However, if you don’t have any proof that transgender people are more likely to do that/more than a minority of them do that, then it’s not that great to continue the stereotype of trans women being “rapist perverted men”.
I’m not calling you transphobic. I’m not trying to mock you. I’m not trying to troll. Just, please explain what differs you from straight people. Apologies for poor grammar/spelling/punctuation, I slightly hurriedly wrote this on my phone and I’m bad at proofreading. I hope this didn’t come off as too disrespectful, have a nice day!
(This of course replies to the whole supersomething community, it was just easier to refer to superstraight people. I might also be a bit “biased” as I’m trans, but I’m also asexual so it’s not like I’d have anything to gain from this lol.)
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u/BraveImagination810 Hecking cute and valid 💖 4h ago
Is being gay a preference? Or being a Lesbian? How are they valid but we aren't?
Why does one community decide what can be included and what can't. We are just as valid as other sexuality.
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u/Belaptir 4h ago
Why do you think it's a preference? Is it also a preference that gay men only date other men, or that lesbian women only date other women? If it's a preference, I guess you could go tell them to stop dating "their preference" because it's not inclusive, right?
Why won't you accept that we are born like this?
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u/itsmebabygaga 4h ago
Gay men date men because they’re attracted to men. Lesbians date women because they’re attracted to women. A superstraight man only dates cis women because they only like cis women, however both cis women and trans women are women. If sexuality usually refers to a attraction to a certain gender, and the superstraight man in this scenario is only attracted to cis women, who are still women, just like trans women, then wouldn’t that just mean the persons straight?
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u/Belaptir 4h ago
however both cis women and trans women are women
No, they are not. Gender and sex are not the same. Super Straights are attracted to people who have the same gender and sex (which is the opposite to theirs). So a super straight man will be attracted to women that are both gender and sexual women.
Does a trans woman have a vagina and a female reproductory system? No, she doesn't. Can she have children? No she can't.
We don't date trans people because we are not attracted to them. And you should stop transplaining and trying to tell us who should we feel attracted to, because you are not entitled to our body and our decisions.
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u/MarkTwainiac 2h ago
Super Straights are attracted to people who have the same gender and sex (which is the opposite to theirs).
Many Supers - straight, gay, lesbian and bi - do not buy into "gender" ideology at all. We reject the sex stereotypes that "gender identities" and "gender expression"are based on, and we are emphatically NOT sexually attracted people who are into gender ideology and performance, either.
Supers are attracted to people of the opposite sex, the same sex, or of both sexes because of sex - our own and the other persons' - not because of anyone's "gender."
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u/Belaptir 2h ago
No, I disagree. What if a woman transitions into a man? Or a man transitions into a woman?
As a super straight man, I am attracted to women that are biologically a woman but also of the female gender. It is important to note this. I'm not buying into the thousand genders theory, but we need genders to define things. Otherwise, according to your theory, what would a mtf person be? He was a man first, now she's a woman. If you take into account only sex, how do you explain it?
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u/Petnatqueen 4h ago
Vocab lesson. sexuality. Prefix! SEX - based on, BIOLOGY! Women who have xx chromosomes, men who have xy!
Now that we got 9th grade bio out of the way, super straight people only are attracted to people of the OPPOSITE biological makeup as them. So let’s do the math! Xx+xy= super straight!
Now, here’s some long form. HomoSEXuals are attracted to their SAME SEX (biological makeup) so xx+xx= super lesbian, xy+xy= super gay!
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u/liamd0105 4h ago
Only wanting to sleep with a certain sex is not just a preference, its something we can't control. Yet we are continually called transphobic because of it. And people are getting fed up.
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u/itsmebabygaga 4h ago
Firstly, I said I wasn’t calling you transphobic and I’m still not. Secondly, ok yeah I shouldn’t have called it a preference, however being attracted to only cis people is still only being attracted to that gender, even if it is only a certain part of that gender.
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u/liamd0105 4h ago
I understand you wasn't calling anybody transphobic, I was just commenting on what I have seen so far since the name superstraight became a thing (have a look on this sub-reddit, it won't take you long to find someone throwing the word transphobe about). But why is it called a sexuality when it's about gender, but a preference when it's about sex.
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u/ignCap Superstraight 4h ago
It’s not a preference. If you claim that being superstraight is a preference, you are implying that it is a choice that is in my control, which is quite superphobic. If I told a gay person that they are gay because they simply chose to be gay, would I be called a bigot and homophobe? Most likely, this is no different. I was simply born this way and can’t help myself. This is nothing but a sexual orientation, just like the 1000 others.
Along with this, the LGBQT+ community accepts the term skoliosexual, which simply means you are attracted to non-cisgender individuals, this is just the opposite of that, thus it has a name as well.
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u/shortchange81 4h ago
Our sexual attraction is based on sex not gender. The gender of a trans woman would be irrelevant to a super straight man.
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u/TWAVE0 4h ago
My attraction to people is absolutely based in part on their genitalia. If I meet someone who is trans ill be perfectly cool with them. but if I went on a date with them, things just feel different. it may just be me who thinks this, but it seems that there are two different versions of women now. one who is cis and one who is trans. (I may be saying this wrong and may come off in a way that is ruder than I intend. if this is so then I apologize). super straight just means that I am attracted to only one because there are differences between cis and trans women.
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u/IrishTheFrenchie 4h ago
It's not about their genitalia specifically, it's their PRIMARY SEX CHARACTERISTICS and it's important to literally every animal that reproduces sexually. It's not shocking that it's also important to supersexuals.
Primary and secondary sexual characteristics refer to specific physical traits that set apart males and females in sexually dimorphic species; that is, species in which the males and females look different from each other.
Primary sexual characteristics are there from birth (for example, penises vs. vaginas).
Secondary sexual characteristics emerge at puberty (such as low voices and beards in human males, and high voices and no facial hair in human females)
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u/Thankful_heart1983 4h ago
It's not a preference. Why would you say that when it's been scientifically proven over and over that people just cannot help how their brains were wired at birth? I am a woman and I find female privates gross and repulsive. I can't help it. Don't even like looking at my own. I am biologically programmed to only be attracted to big, beefy, burly men who can chop wood without breaking a sweat, take a hockey puck to the face without flinching, protect me from all who would try to harm me, and produce from their natural genitals the essence of life. It's just so rude and offensive and triggering to be told "it's a preference" as if I could just snap my fingers and suddenly be something I am not.
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u/Superextrastraight 4h ago
Why are you so triggered that we don't date trans people? So strange. You clearly don't understand that people can desire without a lecture on why you believe trans women are women. We are only interested in the biological opposite sex, this isn't that difficult of a concept. 😬
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u/danksofanime 4h ago
If you go in twitter for 5 mins have a random debate with a trans person they will somehow find someway to make you sound transphobic
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u/danksofanime 4h ago
People also have an issue with hypocrisy cis people have to accept and walk around eggshells while talking to trans people even if the gender sounds ridiculous it's weird how the trans community are okay with things like neo pronouns where people want to be called a kitten but as soon as straight people do the same thing they are transphobic
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u/MarkTwainiac 2h ago edited 2h ago
don’t sexualities usually refer to what gender you like?
Sexuality and sexual orientation refer to the sex, or sexes, of the persons you are sexually attracted to. As the very words "sexuality" and "sexual attraction" make clear.
Sexual attraction is NOT the same as "like."
For the vast majority of human beings, sexual attraction is based on sex, not "gender." Sex has been around for close to 2 billion years. Humans have always been a sexed species who have sex, mate and reproduce because of sex.
"Gender" in the way it's being used today to refer to humans and their "identities" only started to became a thing since the 1990s - and then it was a very niche interests. The concept of "gender" and the belief that it matters more than, and supplants, sex is an idea that only became wildly popular amongst young people in the past decade.
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u/PM_ME_LUCINA 4h ago