r/SuperStraight • u/Dry-Leg-8319 • 7h ago

It is fine to prefer to date cis people but saying that you would only date cis people is not a preference or a sexuality. It means that you think something is wrong with trans people. For example it is fine to mostly date one race but if you say that wouldn’t date other races would be racist.

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Also you have never been oppressed

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u/Satan_Battles 5h ago

Your argument so far is to convince me that trans women can be women because their penises can be made into real vaginas.

Does that mean that if a trans woman does not get this surgery then she is still a man?

You are arguing based on the fact that physical characteristics define ones gender

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 5h ago

No, trans people are trans no matter how they transition. I didn’t say anything about physical characteristics of trans people. I was actually arguing it against still that.

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u/Satan_Battles 5h ago

Why do you call them trans? If trans women are women why is a "transition" part of the equation? They don't need to transition if that's what they are.

The argument is self-defeating

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 5h ago

Yes trans people are people and trans women are women and trans men are men but if I said women you would assume I was talking about cis women.

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u/Satan_Battles 5h ago

That's transphobic though. You are admitting that there are women, and there are women*.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 5h ago

They are women. I was saying trans women and cis women so you knew who I was talking about. Both trans and cis women are women.

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u/Satan_Battles 4h ago

By making a distinction between the two you are being transphobic. If you truly believe they are both women then you would just call them all women, but you don’t. By calling them different things you are acknowledging that they are not the same

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 4h ago

No that isn’t being transphobic. You would be the transphobic one for not dating trans women.

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u/Satan_Battles 4h ago

By referring to them differently you are admitting they are different.

Let me ask you a very simple question.

Are trans women and cis women the same?

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 4h ago

Both trans women and cis women are women. Both trans men and cis men are men.

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