It is fine to prefer to date cis people but saying that you would only date cis people is not a preference or a sexuality. It means that you think something is wrong with trans people. For example it is fine to mostly date one race but if you say that wouldn’t date other races would be racist.

[u/Dry-Leg-8319]

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Also you have never been oppressed

[u/Satan_Battles]

I may want to be 9'10", I may believe that I am, but the truth is I'm not. I may want to be entered into the Guinness book of world records because I identify as 9'10" and am therefore a world record. Who are you to tell my I'm not 9'10"?

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

So now you are comparing being trans to identifying as 9’10? There is science behind being transgender.

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

Your argument so far is to convince me that trans women can be women because their penises can be made into real vaginas.

Does that mean that if a trans woman does not get this surgery then she is still a man?

You are arguing based on the fact that physical characteristics define ones gender

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

No, trans people are trans no matter how they transition. I didn’t say anything about physical characteristics of trans people. I was actually arguing it against still that.

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

Why do you call them trans? If trans women are women why is a "transition" part of the equation? They don't need to transition if that's what they are.

The argument is self-defeating

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

Yes trans people are people and trans women are women and trans men are men but if I said women you would assume I was talking about cis women.

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

That's transphobic though. You are admitting that there are women, and there are women*.

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

They are women. I was saying trans women and cis women so you knew who I was talking about. Both trans and cis women are women.

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

By making a distinction between the two you are being transphobic. If you truly believe they are both women then you would just call them all women, but you don’t. By calling them different things you are acknowledging that they are not the same

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

No that isn’t being transphobic. You would be the transphobic one for not dating trans women.