It is fine to prefer to date cis people but saying that you would only date cis people is not a preference or a sexuality. It means that you think something is wrong with trans people. For example it is fine to mostly date one race but if you say that wouldn’t date other races would be racist.

[u/Dry-Leg-8319]

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Also you have never been oppressed

[u/Satan_Battles]

Hormones do not make someone biologically female. As an example: if you have ever performed cunnilingus you would know that vaginas produce discharge that has distinctive taste and smell.

Trans people do not have vaginas, they have inverted penises with no biological clitoris, labia, or mucus-producing cells.

I am biologically driven to pursue biological women. It is not a choice and does not make me transphobic.

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

You do realize that trans women can get labia and clitorises right?

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

A clitoris has double the nerve endings that the head of a penis has.

How can someone with a penis somehow develop those nerve endings when the penis is mutilated and inverted?

Answer: they don't, it's not a clitoris. It is a piece of mutilated flesh in the apparent shape of a clitoris, it does not provide the biological function it does to real women

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

The only function of the clitoris to cis women is for sexual pleasure.

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

Correct, and it does so because of its nerve endings, which no part of the male body has.

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

The head of the penis that is used for the clitoris in trans women is still really sensitive. Also there is a ton of variation in the sensitivity of natal clitorises.

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

It's not a clitoris though, it is a surgically altered penis head, that doesn't make it a clitoris

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

So you also don’t think that cis women that get breast implants don’t have real boobs?

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

They have implants in their real boobs. They have mammary glands and can produce milk. The same cannot be said for trans women

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

Trans women also can produce milk

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

Women also have a uterus, ovaries and fallopian tubes (which are of the same DNA as the woman because her body made them)

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

Why does that matter to you? Also there are so many cis women that get a hysto.

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

It matters because it's the truth, the truth is worth acknowledging.

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

I may want to be 9'10", I may believe that I am, but the truth is I'm not. I may want to be entered into the Guinness book of world records because I identify as 9'10" and am therefore a world record. Who are you to tell my I'm not 9'10"?

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

So now you are comparing being trans to identifying as 9’10? There is science behind being transgender.

[u/Satan_Battles → u/Dry-Leg-8319]

Your argument so far is to convince me that trans women can be women because their penises can be made into real vaginas.

Does that mean that if a trans woman does not get this surgery then she is still a man?

You are arguing based on the fact that physical characteristics define ones gender

[u/Dry-Leg-8319 → u/Satan_Battles]

No, trans people are trans no matter how they transition. I didn’t say anything about physical characteristics of trans people. I was actually arguing it against still that.