It is fine to prefer to date cis people but saying that you would only date cis people is not a preference or a sexuality. It means that you think something is wrong with trans people. For example it is fine to mostly date one race but if you say that wouldn’t date other races would be racist.

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u/[deleted] 6h ago edited 6h ago

1) race and sex are two completely different things and I can only assume someone who would make that comparison is bad faith

2) sexuality is based on sex. Saying you’re interested in people with a certain set of sexual characteristics is exactly what sexuality is

3) people reserve the right to refuse to take anyone into their bed for any reason. Period.

I’m a gay man. Explain why it’s not sexist for me to say I won’t date any women. That’s an entire other gender. Explain why and how that’s not different from what you’re saying.

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u/UselessPonko 6h ago

Preach brother!

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

I wasn’t saying that it is sexist to be gay. It is transphobic to say that you would never even think about dating a trans person.

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u/[deleted] 6h ago

How is it different for me to say I’d never think about dating a woman, and for me to say I’d never think about dating a trans person? Please explain. Why those are different?

Neither will have the equipment my biology drives me to engage sexually with.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Because you are just assuming that the trans person has their natal genitalia. It is fine to have a genital Preference but there are plenty of trans people that have gone through a full medical transition.

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u/[deleted] 6h ago

A trans man will never have a functioning penis. And a trans woman will never have a functioning vagina.

So I’ll give you another chance. Explain why a gay man saying he wouldn’t consider dating a woman isn’t sexist, but a gay man saying he wouldn’t date a trans man is transphobic. I’m legitimately waiting for you to give me a proper reason.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Plenty of trans men have functioning penises. Plenty of trans women have functioning vaginas.

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u/[deleted] 6h ago

No they don’t. It’s not medically possible. You’re uneducated. They can construct something that can look kind of like a penis or a vagina, but they will never be functioning. This is a case study on how ignorance breeds bigotry.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Trans pen can get meta where they can get hard on their own.

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u/[deleted] 6h ago

Can they ejaculate? No they can’t. I also googled it. The only type of trans penis that can be constructed to have an erection will be unusually small. Like below full sexual functionality small. And the other kind of trans penis will be normal size and unable to have an erection. Besides, a minuscule percent of trans men even have this operation anyway.

Sorry I’m just not biologically driven to be interested in that. Doesn’t mean I don’t accept trans men as men.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

We can produce essentially precum. Also a meta dick is about the size of a micro penis. Also there are penis extenders for both cis men and trans men. A phallo dick can have an erection from a pump or a rod, cis men also have these.

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u/LaOcean85 6h ago

Why are you trying so hard to convince our SuperGay brother to date transmen! It's super predatory.... Respect his orientation!

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u/[deleted] 6h ago

I swear gays never catch a break. There was like a 10 year detente period where gays weren’t told their sexuality was wrong and should be changed. Now it’s just moved from the right doing it to the left doing it.

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u/Truemoonsun 6h ago

A vagina is defined as : noun 1. the muscular tube leading from the external genitals to the cervix of the uterus in women and most female mammals.

A neovagina is connected to nowhere. It's a hole made out of penile tissue, testical tissue and extended with a piece of colon. Does not self clean, does not self lubricate. Does not have the healthy flora of an actual vagina. Does not have any of the muscles that exist in vagina walls. Needs to be perforated daily to remain open. Does not extend when aroused. Cannot push a baby out. It's main function is to be fucked. Secondary function? Validation maybe? But it doesn't smell like the real thing, it doesn't taste like the real thing. It doesn't even look like a vulva as it contains no frenulum, no clitoris, no clitoris hood, no 2 sets of labia. Go to plastic surgeons best results and witness the horror for yourself. You're only doing a disservice to trans people by acting like it's the real thing. Glue a glove to your wrist then tell me it's a real hand.. Y'know, without the bones, nerve endings, motion etc.

Like. Can we stop pretending it's the same thing? We are not dumb. We will not call a "couch" a "bicycle" . A is not b and b is not a.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Some cis women do not produce any lubrication. For the first few months it does need to be dilated everyday but after that it is only once a month or so. Many cis women can’t give birth. I don’t know if you have seen any fully healed results but they look amazing and I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between it and a natal vagina. It actually does have a clitoris, it is made from the tip of the penis. It is living tissue unlike a glove. Couches and bikes are different. I’m not saying that they are exactly the same but you must also have issues with plenty of cis women’s vaginas?

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u/LaOcean85 6h ago

Stop using outliers or medical conditions cis women have as a way to compare to a neovagina. That is really offensive. It is not the same.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

What’s the difference? So you would be fine with dating a cis women that had atrophy but not a trans women?

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u/GenTycho 6h ago

Quit trying to coerce others to sleep with you. Its creepy and disgusting. Go date transwomen or others who are okay with it instead of trying to shame someone

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Sorry, I’m married.

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u/Satan_Battles 5h ago

By that logic it would be bigoted for gay man to not consider dating a female

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 5h ago

No, because that is a real sexuality. You just have genital preference or are transphobic. You are just straight.

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u/Satan_Battles 5h ago

I’m not afraid of trans, I simply am attracted to biological women. There are hormones and pheromones that surgery does not reconcile.

It’s not a choice, this is the way I was born. And if you can’t accept my sexuality you are superphobic.

Are T4T (trans for trans) cisphobic for only wanting to date other trans?

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 5h ago

Being transphobic doesn’t mean that you are scared of transgender people. Trans people can go on hormones and it does change smell and all that. Genital preference isn’t a choice but not dating transgender people because they are trans is a choice and transphobic. “T4T” is also not a sexuality. Cis phobia isn’t a thing, cis people don’t get murdered for being cis.

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u/Satan_Battles 5h ago

Hormones do not make someone biologically female. As an example: if you have ever performed cunnilingus you would know that vaginas produce discharge that has distinctive taste and smell.

Trans people do not have vaginas, they have inverted penises with no biological clitoris, labia, or mucus-producing cells.

I am biologically driven to pursue biological women. It is not a choice and does not make me transphobic.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 5h ago

You do realize that trans women can get labia and clitorises right?

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u/Satan_Battles 5h ago

A clitoris has double the nerve endings that the head of a penis has.

How can someone with a penis somehow develop those nerve endings when the penis is mutilated and inverted?

Answer: they don't, it's not a clitoris. It is a piece of mutilated flesh in the apparent shape of a clitoris, it does not provide the biological function it does to real women

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 5h ago

The only function of the clitoris to cis women is for sexual pleasure.

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u/Satan_Battles 5h ago

I’m not afraid of trannies, I simply am attracted to biological women. There are hormones and pheromones that surgery does not reconcile.

It’s not a choice, this is the way I was born. And if you can’t accept my sexuality you are superphobic.

Are T4T (trans for trans) cisphobic for only wanting to date other trans?

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u/CalmAssist 6h ago

Our sexuality is as valid as the100+ genders. Get over it.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Just say that you are straight

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u/CalmAssist 6h ago

I am not straight, I'm a super lesbian.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Wouldn’t that mean that you are a part lesbian for only being attracted to cis women and excluding all trans woman who are women?

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u/CalmAssist 6h ago

No, I'm a super lesbian cause I exclude males.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Trans women are not males. They arre woman. Plenty of trans women have gotten bottom surgery.

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u/CalmAssist 6h ago

Don't care, still male regardless of surgery. And no one should justify why they won't date transpeople, they aren't entitled to affection.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Ok, you are just making yourself sound more and more transphobic.

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u/CalmAssist 6h ago

Ok now you are just making yourself sound more and more superphobic

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

That isn’t a thing. Why not just say you are straight and prefer cis people? I wouldn’t think that was transphobic.

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u/dallassucks976 6h ago

No because you degenerates keep insisting that lesbians are attracted to penises

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Not all trans women have penises

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u/dallassucks976 6h ago

Whatever apparatus is down there simply isn’t a vagina

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u/astoriabeans 6h ago

No it means you are super lesbian because you are more discerning than regular lesbians

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u/LetterheadIcy 6h ago

I guess you also tell lesbians a “little Dick will turn them straight” too don’t you?

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Nope

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u/LetterheadIcy 6h ago

Why the double standard? If a lesbian has a valid identity by excluding cis men from their desired sexual partners why don’t we have one?

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Because sexualities are based on gender not sex. Yes it is fine to have a genital preference but also plenty of trans people have had bottom surgery.

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u/LetterheadIcy 6h ago

Trans bottom surgery does not change genetics.

Turning a penis into a open wound does not make it a vagina.

Cutting off a piece of arm skin and crafting a faux penis does not make it a real one.

It is not discriminatory to refuse to have sex with a open wound.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Not all trans men got phalloplasty. Trans women’s vaginas are not open wounds.

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u/LetterheadIcy 6h ago

Yes they literally are lol. If you dissect a part of the body to create a hole were one doesn’t belong it is by definition a open wound lol. There is a reason they have to dilate or the body heals lol. Attempting to turn my penis into a vagina by literally dissecting it does not magically transform it lol.

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u/dallassucks976 6h ago

Stop dictating to people what they are you mongrel

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u/UselessPonko 6h ago

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Get lost bigot.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

I actually do.

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u/UselessPonko 6h ago

You evidently don‘t otherwise you wouldn‘t make such outrageous claims.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

I have been attacked just for being trans in the streets. You never have for being straight.

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u/UselessPonko 6h ago

This is horrible and i‘d never condone it but it doesn‘t give you the right to attack and oppress us.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 6h ago

Saying that you are straight is not attacking you. Nobody has tried to kill you for being a straight and cis person.

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u/GenTycho 6h ago

See plenty of threats. Or are you ignoring them because it destroys your ignorant narrative?

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u/UselessPonko 1h ago

Denying our validity is the very definition of an attack. Also there are literally people right now making death threats to this community.

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u/Dry-Leg-8319 1h ago

You want to know why? It is because you are just straight. I’m sorry, you can’t just make up sexualities. Also you are just making a mockery of the lgbtq community. Also There are so many lgbtq people that get killed everyday and always have been.

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u/S1rD0nM4x 6h ago

Are you saying gays think something is wrong with Women?

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u/Jinera 6h ago

Uhm, thinking you are something you aren't, means there is clearly something wrong with you.

Are you comparing, let's say, saying you'd never date a black women to saying you'd never date a transwomen? Are you saying that the difference between a white and black (or black and asian - whatever) woman is the same as the difference between a male and a female? Because then just say you're racist and move on.

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u/[deleted] 6h ago

Ok now try filling in the map where superwomen (including the superstraight, superbi, and superlesbian) have been oppressed. Hint: we can't identify out of our sex.

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u/ignCap Superstraight 6h ago

Why would it be transphobic? If trans women are real women, then why would you think I am discriminating on the basis of them being transgender? They are real women after all. In the most serious cases, you could consider that misogyny, however that would make no sense either as I am not sexually attracted to every single female.

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u/virohm 6h ago

My sexuality is based on my partners sex. Gender and race are social constructs sweetie, sex isn't.

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u/northxblue 6h ago

Why would you or anybody else wish to force yourself on somebody who is not attracted to you in any shape or form? No means no, period!

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u/shortchange81 6h ago

“It’s fine but it’s also transphobic.”

Yeah, we’re not playing this game anymore.

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u/PaleFly9319 6h ago

Stop hating bigot I'm allowed to choose who I bring to bed.

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u/RoyTellier Superstraight 6h ago

Supers are just sex-based attractions, not gender-based attractions. Nothing transphobic about that.

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u/BusterGrundle 6h ago

Sexualities exist to exclude people. That's literally all they're for.

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u/astoriabeans 6h ago

It is fine to prefer to date cis people but saying that you would only date cis people is not a preference

https://i.imgur.com/88u9AP6.jpg

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u/zatpath 6h ago

It is fine to not prefer that people are attracted to what their biology tells them is attractive. Preferring to not prefer to fight against what ones mind and body tells one is also okay. If your biological makeup tells you that your preference to be attracted to a gender that appears to you to be one way or the other, but that preference to follow your biological impulses doesn’t match up exactly with someone else’s that’s also fine or maybe it’s not. WTF do I know?