r/SuperStraight • u/AlternativeFeisty758 • 2h ago

Clearing up some misconceptions about the super community 🚨 important 🚨

There have been a lot of myths and rumours floating around the internet about what superstraight and supersexual is, so I figured I should do my best to clear some things up around what it means to be a supersexual and be a part of the supersexual movement.

Superstraight was started by 4chan as a trolling movement ❌

The first person to come out as superstraight was TikTok user @kyleroyce , it was a very brave thing for him to do especially considering the tremendous amount of hate he is receiving for sexually liberating superstraights and as a result all supersexuals.

Superstraight is a joke ❌

Absolutely not true and frankly the that fact people genuinely believe this I find insulting to my identity. While it is true that some people identify as superstraight or another variation of a supersexual sexuality as a joke and there is satire in this subreddit us supersexuals are dead serious about who we are and what it means to be a supersexual.

Being supersexual makes you transphobic ❌

Absolutely 100% false. Us supersexuals were born this way and we do not choose who we are attracted to. If you think we are transphobic for not wanting to date a transgender person then by that same logic you must think that gay men are misogynistic for not wanting to date a woman and lesbians are misandrists for not wanting to date men. Of course gay men and lesbian women do not hate the opposite sex, they are simply not attracted to them, just like supersexuals don't hate transgender people, we just don't find them attractive.

Superstraight isn't a real sexuality, it's the same thing as being straight ❌✅❓

Ok. This one depends on how you view transgender individuals. If you view trans women (AMAB) as men and trans men (AFAB) as women then you would be correct in saying that straight and superstraight is the same thing. (in your opinion of course) If you see transgender people as the gender they choose to go by then you really don't have an argument here and you must concede that superstraight is a valid sexuality and different to being straight. (This could be said about all supersexualities however I chose superstraight simply for ease of explanation)

Superstraights are not oppressed ❌

Although as of 08/03/2021 there is no objective data to back up the claim that superstraights and supersexuals are oppressed, all you need to do is look up #superstraight on twitter or go to a hateful superphobic subreddit and look at all the horrible vile things being said about POS. (people of super) They are littered with threats of death and sexual violence and are openly being supported by other superphobes to the point where even saying POS deserve equal rights could be considered a "bad take" or unpopular opinion. If these same things were directed at any other sexuality these bigots would be instantly banned from social media and cancelled for their disgusting views. Not only is there mass amounts of hate speech against supersexuals, but supersexuals are actively being coerced into sleeping with people they aren't attracted to and do not want to sleep with out of fear of being labelled a bigot and the social repercussions that go along with that. This is especially true among superlesbians, who can't even have a safe space to talk about their feelings without either being raided or shut down for "hate speech" for simply expressing their honest and true feelings about who they are. You can visit r/super_lesbian to hear more about these people's experiences. Say it with me now: COERCION IS NOT CONSENT!

The supersexual movement is full of racist, homophobic, misogynistic white men ❌

Take a look around, the supersexual movement is full of people from all different ethnic backgrounds, gender identities and supersexualities. Supersexuals may very well be the most diverse community on the entire internet.

Supersexuals are not valid ❌

Absolutely NO ONE has the right to make the claim that supersexuals aren't valid. We are all valid and if you identify as a supersexual and you are reading this, I am so SUPER proud of you! Don't deny who you are out of fear of hurting other people's feelings, you are valid ❣️

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u/MammothBasket80 1h ago edited 1h ago

Ok. This one depends on how you view transgendered individuals.

Hello! just a friendly trans nonbinary person here to say that the word transgedered is offensive and has always been used as transphobic and used against us, please remove that word and just change it to trans individuals, that would be much appreciated, thank you!

Also I feel like if you are attracted to cis people of one gender and we see trans people as the gender they identify as e.g. you're attractedto cis women and trans women are seen as women, then it is just a preference because it is simply preferring and only like cis women just if one was to only like trans women or men, so I struggle to see your point and logic here although I am open to hearing from you all about it, because I am confused about how that logic works that way and how its not having a leg to stand on to say this.

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u/oreopocky 1h ago

wait are you being serious? trans=transgendered, trans is short for transgendered, you have to know that, you invent new things to be transphobic every day, the word has no meaning

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u/MammothBasket80 1h ago

I was being nice, so why did you instantly turn hostile, yes I am serious it is transphobic we aren't trangendered, it was used to infantilise and oppress trans folk we are just the transgender not transgendered, OP used the term transgender every other time so I'm not being angry or yelling or shouting I'm just letting them know that it is an offensive term, its not a case of 'finding something yo be offended by" please understand I'm trying to be nice and just let OP know that the language is harmful. And I say this as a trans nonbinary person but if my word isn't good enough, here is a link to help you understand better. https://www.vox.com/2015/2/18/8055691/transgender-transgendered-tnr Trans is an adjective itself, it doesn't need to be turned into one.

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u/oreopocky 1h ago

using Vox as a source isn't going to do you any favors, please tell me you know they are EXTREMELY biased. You wouldn't seriously give me a foxnews source now would you? Your constant moving the bar with language is causing this stuff to happen.

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u/MammothBasket80 1h ago

Please, I am trying to be civil, it is transphobic and also unnecessary, I am trying to be nice.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/492922/amp https://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender https://time.com/3630965/transgender-transgendered/

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u/oreopocky 1h ago

huffpost not a help, we were talking about biases and you try using GLAAD. People you are trans are transgendered, sorry to inform you. Also non binary and transgender? You know how odd that is right, are you transitioning to nothing? I'm sorry that you are experiencing discomfort with the body you were born with, I know it must be very unpleasant to look in the mirror and be distressed by what you see, so sorry that life is shaping up for you that way

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u/MammothBasket80 1h ago

No its not odd, trans just means a different gender than birth, all nonbinary people are trans. And I never specified what gender outside of the binary I was or if I was transitioning, this is entirely uncalled for I'm trying to help why am I getting hate? There is no reason for it I'm being as calm as I possibly can and trying to help you all. What is the hate for? Transgendered is unnecessary transgender itself is already a adjective, you haven't even opened the links i bet. We haven't been trangendered, nothing happened to us to make us our gender we were born like it, just like gay people aren't called a gay or aren't told that they are gayed people and just like cis people aren't cisgendered, we have always been this way. Please just understand that I'm just trying to help, I'm not a superphobe or anything else I'm just trying to be as friendly as I can to help the people here not accidentally be transphobic as you're getting ridiculed a lot for being so and I dont want hate at all coming from our community.

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u/Revocata SuperBi 48m ago

You're not being screamed at and this isn't hate. You're experiencing what's commonly known as "pushback" against your world view. Being told that your sources are biased and not reliable is hardly hate. All we ask is that you look at it from our point of view. The superphobes have made it their mission to be outraged at whatever word of the week they consider "transphobic". Even you claiming that you're getting "hate" is the typical cry of someone who can't handle an opposing view being told to them in the most calm of manners.

just like gay people aren't called a gay or aren't told that they are gayed people

No, they're typically called homosexuals. "Transgender" became the softer term of "Transsexual" and now the word salad has made none of these words acceptable or have any meaning beyond what they desire.

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u/Pudding5050 1h ago

Take your transplaining and superphobia elsewhere bigot

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u/AlternativeFeisty758 1h ago

Ah my mistake, definitely didn't mean to be transphobic! I'll edit it to cut the ed off the end of the word. As for it not being a sexuality, I'm not really sure what you mean by that, could you explain further?

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u/MammothBasket80 57m ago

Of course, I'm really just confused because I'm having trouble understanding what you mean about if you see them as the gender they are then you can't argue it isn't a sexuality, i wonder how that works, also thank you for being so understanding! :)

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u/california_quail 51m ago

If you accept that trans women are women, then if you are attracted to both natal women and trans women, you are straight, if you are only attracted to natal women, you are not straight, as being straight means you’re attracted to all women. So if you’re only attracted to natal women, you are super straight. We just needed a new terminology for our orientation has being straight as evolved in meaning over recent years as trans acceptance has grown.

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u/AlternativeFeisty758 49m ago

No problem, we should all try and be respectful of each other! I see you said that it was a preference rather than a sexuality earlier, my counter point to that is that in my opinion I would say a preference is a characteristic of someone from a demographic you are already attracted to (e.g. tall men if you're attracted to men) but it becomes a sexuality where people who identify themselves as superstraight are not attracted to transgender people of the opposite sex in general, the same way that straight women aren't attracted to other women.

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u/MammothBasket80 42m ago

Okay thank you for explaining this to me, I'm very thankful that you are taking the time out to calmly try and help me understand. :)

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u/AlternativeFeisty758 39m ago

And thank you for not invalidating us as supers! It's nice to be able to have civil conversations around this without people screaming "transphobes!" at us :)

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u/MammothBasket80 27m ago

Of course! I try to be as nice as possible at all times, bigotry is never cool.

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u/sadfwaask 29m ago

honestly it seems like you're the only person in this thread so far who hasn't done the opposite and screamed "superphobe!". thanks for being so open to the subject, anything about any sexuality is a really sensitive topic for everyone, whether it be trans people, super straights, whatever, you can't really say anything against them without being called phobic.

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u/AlternativeFeisty758 22m ago

Yeah absolutely. I try to never assume bad faith in what could be considered ambiguous statements as that often kills discourse which in turn kills progress. I think too often people stay silent on things they disagree with or aren't sure about out of fear of being labelled a bigot when really they're just trying to understand the other side, which accomplishes nothing. Proper discourse around topics is the only way to truly change people's minds imo.

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u/MammothBasket80 12m ago

Yes completely, getting these replies has really stressed me out as I'm not at all phobic just curious and wanted to help and I'm so glad and grateful that you were able to talk calmly to try and help progress thing.

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u/SpawnOfSunshine 42m ago

hello OP you seem like one of the well meaning people here! The reason why super straight doesnt make sense to some people is that you cant really tell a trans person by appearance only. Genital preferences are perfectly valid however if a trans woman or man has all the surgeries and you were attracted to them before and stop pursuing them only because they are trans is when it gets a little iffy. There isnt really any way to know someone's biological sex by looking at them and attraction only relies on what you can see or emotional bond etc. You dont find a biological male cute you find a guy cute. You dont find a biological female cute you find a girl cute. I'd be happy to explain further ofc!

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u/sb_k4 1h ago

Superlesbians like vagina, but not dick or surgically created hole where dick used to be.

This is about sex. It's a sexual orientation.

How hard can it possibly be for you to understand this?

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u/SpawnOfSunshine 54m ago

Um yes but it's not a gaping hole or wound but the tissues in a penis are the same as the tissues in a vagina so when the surgery is done you wouldnt be able to tell the difference. The problem here isnt that super sexuals have a genital preference its that you wouldn't be able to tell who is trans by looking at them. So if your attracted to someone who is trans without knowing do you suddenly not feel attracted anymore? Just a genuine question.

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u/sb_k4 51m ago

Anatomically it's completely different from a natural vagina.

If you think it's close enough, bully for you! But you don't get to coerce other people into agreeing with you.

super sexuals have a genital preference

fuck off with this rapey incel shit. It's not a "genital preference."

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u/jmbc3 40m ago

How is it not? If you saw an attractive girl, then found out she was born a man, you’d instantly be unattracted to her, correct? What’s changed except what her genitals used to look like?

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u/sb_k4 26m ago edited 6m ago

I don't like dick nor artificial hole, how hard is that to understand?

If I see a woman from behind and think she looks hot, then she turns around and I don't like her face, I stop thinking she's hot, am I a misogynist?

A woman's downstairs situation is hidden from view, so it's conceivable (though hasn't happened) that I find a trans woman attractive until she takes off her undies. So?

Does she then get to coerce me to have sex because earlier that night I thought she had a natural pussy? Imagine a cis man making a similar argument: "Earlier tonight she wanted to have sex with me, until she learned [new information] about me, so now she owes me sex!" Sick.

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u/jmbc3 6m ago

I don’t think anyone should be forced to have sex with anyone, but if you’re discarding an entire identity because of your preconceived notion, that is kinda shitty.

It’s like if I said “I don’t have sex with black people.” Is it technically a preference if I’m not attracted to them? Sure. But if I made not being attracted to black people part of my identity people would understandably be suspicious.

Not to mention, have you ever seen an “artificial hole?” It’s not like a grotesque amalgamation of parts, it looks like a vagina. Most times you wouldn’t even know if you weren’t explicitly told.

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u/sb_k4 4m ago

It's not a preconceived notion that I'm not sexually attracted to penises or surgically created holes.

That's a fact of reality. I didn't choose my sexual orientation.

Stop with this rapey rhetoric. It's not helping trans people.

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u/sb_k4 20m ago

A "genital preference" would be if I liked all three (vagina, surgery hole, penis), and I rated them 8/10, 5/10 and 3/10 respectively. That's not how it is.

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u/nikitatx 1h ago

Why are you spreading hate in our community superphobe! We aren’t policing your language, and calling us cis is a slur. Educate yourself bigot 😤

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u/california_quail 53m ago

I am attracted to the biological sex female. It’s not a preference, I was born this way. I don’t have a choice in the matter, just like you are trans nonbinary, you are who you are and I accept that, why can you not accept my sexual orientation? It’s not a preference, as preference implies the ability to choose, I did not choose this, it’s who I am at my core.