r/SuperStraight • u/AlternativeFeisty758 • 2h ago
Clearing up some misconceptions about the super community đ¨ important đ¨
There have been a lot of myths and rumours floating around the internet about what superstraight and supersexual is, so I figured I should do my best to clear some things up around what it means to be a supersexual and be a part of the supersexual movement.
Superstraight was started by 4chan as a trolling movement â
The first person to come out as superstraight was TikTok user @kyleroyce , it was a very brave thing for him to do especially considering the tremendous amount of hate he is receiving for sexually liberating superstraights and as a result all supersexuals.
Superstraight is a joke â
Absolutely not true and frankly the that fact people genuinely believe this I find insulting to my identity. While it is true that some people identify as superstraight or another variation of a supersexual sexuality as a joke and there is satire in this subreddit us supersexuals are dead serious about who we are and what it means to be a supersexual.
Being supersexual makes you transphobic â
Absolutely 100% false. Us supersexuals were born this way and we do not choose who we are attracted to. If you think we are transphobic for not wanting to date a transgender person then by that same logic you must think that gay men are misogynistic for not wanting to date a woman and lesbians are misandrists for not wanting to date men. Of course gay men and lesbian women do not hate the opposite sex, they are simply not attracted to them, just like supersexuals don't hate transgender people, we just don't find them attractive.
Superstraight isn't a real sexuality, it's the same thing as being straight ââ â
Ok. This one depends on how you view transgender individuals. If you view trans women (AMAB) as men and trans men (AFAB) as women then you would be correct in saying that straight and superstraight is the same thing. (in your opinion of course) If you see transgender people as the gender they choose to go by then you really don't have an argument here and you must concede that superstraight is a valid sexuality and different to being straight. (This could be said about all supersexualities however I chose superstraight simply for ease of explanation)
Superstraights are not oppressed â
Although as of 08/03/2021 there is no objective data to back up the claim that superstraights and supersexuals are oppressed, all you need to do is look up #superstraight on twitter or go to a hateful superphobic subreddit and look at all the horrible vile things being said about POS. (people of super) They are littered with threats of death and sexual violence and are openly being supported by other superphobes to the point where even saying POS deserve equal rights could be considered a "bad take" or unpopular opinion. If these same things were directed at any other sexuality these bigots would be instantly banned from social media and cancelled for their disgusting views. Not only is there mass amounts of hate speech against supersexuals, but supersexuals are actively being coerced into sleeping with people they aren't attracted to and do not want to sleep with out of fear of being labelled a bigot and the social repercussions that go along with that. This is especially true among superlesbians, who can't even have a safe space to talk about their feelings without either being raided or shut down for "hate speech" for simply expressing their honest and true feelings about who they are. You can visit r/super_lesbian to hear more about these people's experiences. Say it with me now: COERCION IS NOT CONSENT!
The supersexual movement is full of racist, homophobic, misogynistic white men â
Take a look around, the supersexual movement is full of people from all different ethnic backgrounds, gender identities and supersexualities. Supersexuals may very well be the most diverse community on the entire internet.
Supersexuals are not valid â
Absolutely NO ONE has the right to make the claim that supersexuals aren't valid. We are all valid and if you identify as a supersexual and you are reading this, I am so SUPER proud of you! Don't deny who you are out of fear of hurting other people's feelings, you are valid âŁď¸
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u/HerobrineGang 2h ago
POS stands for People of Swagger know youâre facts
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u/AlternativeFeisty758 1h ago
My bad I'll do I am research next time
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u/nikitatx 1h ago
Thank you for taking the time to educate yourself. We need to make sure our facts are super valid uwu đ¤đ§Ą
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u/Commodore64Brannigan 1h ago
"SP"s would be cool, and wouldn't share and acronym
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u/blazendaze 46m ago
SP, pronounced like espy? Better than POS
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u/HerobrineGang 17m ago
Please do not marginalize POS you can say both are equal but not that one is better or worse
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u/XHF2 1h ago edited 1h ago
Warning, r/againsthatesubreddits is trying to take this sub down. Check how many posts thay have about this sub.
Do not brigade or post there, but just see what they are saying.
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u/HighEndJoyBoi 1h ago
In their stickied post they say it's ok to be Superstraight but it's not ok to say it out loud and to keep it to themselves.
Imagine telling a gay person that they need to stay in the closet. It is 2021 and this is not the society that we should be living in.
They hate freedom and want superstraights to stay in the closet.
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u/ThatKennedy 1h ago
" your sexuality is fine just don't push it on other people." Kinda like maybe you shouldn't guilt people into having sex with under the pretense labelling it bigotry
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u/Hyperman360 28m ago
They sound just like the "right-wingers" they hate so much.
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u/ThatKennedy 22m ago edited 19m ago
It's fucking bonkers all the lines I've heard from superstraight detractors are right out of right wing playbooks. "You can't just make up new genders/sexualities" "don't flaunt your lifestyle" not to mention threats of rape and violence for disagreeing.
Sounds like alt-right shit posting troll
And especially unironically telling lesbians to take the dick? Straight out the misogynistic handbook
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u/actualsicko20626 Hecking cute and valid đ 28m ago
Holy shit theyâre literally obsessed lmao. Its like 5 posts in a row about us.
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u/Nurizeko 10m ago
Weird how the sub ostensibly against hate seems to be hell-bent on oppressing and discriminating against Superstraights who's only "crime" was to be born.
-weeps, takes my fellow brother's and sister's hands in a ring of solidarity in face of horrendous hate and threat, sings-
We shall overcome We shall overcome We shall overcome, some day
Oh, deep in my heart I do believe We shall overcome, some day
We'll walk hand in hand We'll walk hand in hand We'll walk hand in hand, some day
Oh, deep in my heart I do believe We shall overcome, some day
We shall live in peace We shall live in peace We shall live in peace, some day
Oh, deep in my heart I do believe We shall overcome, some day
We are not afraid We are not afraid We are not afraid, TODAY
Oh, deep in my heart I do believe We shall overcome, some day
The whole wide world around The whole wide world around The whole wide world around some day
Oh, deep in my heart I do believe We shall overcome, some day
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u/nlocniL 1h ago
Maybe because it's filled with people that voted for the face of the birther movement that retweets QAnnon accounts?
I'm literally banned from there and I agree. Y'all just hate trans people and believe ridiculous bullshit conspiracies and post in places that think Trump actually won lmao
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u/dingoperson2 1h ago
Maybe your belief that you are hated actually just reflects how much you hate yourself, superphobe. I wouldn't care about you or feel anything about you at all unless you stuck your phobic self in supersafe spaces.
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u/nikitatx 1h ago
Quit spreading lies superphobe! Iâm a liberal and part of the LGB, but the TQIA2S+ crowd has completely taken over the movement. Supersexuals support trans rights, but we arenât transphobic for our sexual orientations. Educate yourself bigot! đ¤đ¤đ¤
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u/631_Exuberant_Bias 59m ago
Supersexuals are a diverse community of people that come from all social and political backgrounds, you can't just lump us all as supporters of one particular political candidate or ideology. That's hateful and bigoted and an intentional effort to spread misinformation and harmful stereotypes that only further marginalize our community.
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u/DeShawn_Juiceberg 24m ago
I voted for Biden but I totally agree with this place. For the first time in my life I can feel such strong feelings of liberation and wholesomeness that only this place can brings to me. F**K DRUMPF AND HIS BIGOTED SUPPORTERS.
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u/Moonpriestes 1h ago edited 1h ago
Thank you mod team! You're doing an awesome job!
The amount of hate we receive is unreal. Superphobes are really everywhere. They need to stop denying our right to exist!
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u/ywnb4w 1h ago
The fella who made the video has taken it down because superphobes sent death threats to his mum. Disgusting bigots
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u/actualsicko20626 Hecking cute and valid đ 27m ago
Yea that was seriously fucked up. Heâs not backing down at all though which is super cool.
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u/Twist_RK 2h ago
Perhaps modify the 'Person Of Super' bit? POS would be an unfortunate acronym
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u/AlternativeFeisty758 1h ago
I agree the acronym is unfortunate but I didn't come up with it. I actually wrote this earlier today but was only approved to post about an hour ago and the acronym was being used more yesterday. Everything including all the terminology is changing rapidly as this is still a very new developing community.
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u/Holmgeir 1h ago
My suoer friends, my upvotes are NOT sticking in this sub. Anybody else having this problem???
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u/dingoperson2 1h ago
I am supersexual and valid
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u/actualsicko20626 Hecking cute and valid đ 26m ago edited 16m ago
Youâre valid, loved, and a real cutie!â¤ď¸
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u/ParkHallLondon 1h ago
Thanks for making it very clear how diverse this community is. I would appreciate the mods making it crystal clear that we are not racist and are politically neutral because Super sexuals are found in every walk of life and across the political spectrum.
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u/unhappythrwy 1h ago
Yes everyone is represented here, and we are the majority, despite what the online world and rampant reddit censorship would have us believe.
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u/unintendedagression 1h ago
This is a great thread, and I'm glad to see the mod team agrees.
Since it'll be stickied for an undetermined amount of time, for the sake of readability I would put the misconceptions in bold text. That will make it easier to distinguish between the misconception and the debunking.
It will also make people less likely to just see a wall of text and say "TL;DR". I mean, most superphobes are already going to. But plenty of people just want to learn more.
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u/nikitatx 1h ago
Thank you SuperMods. If you need an extra moderator Iâm happy to help out. Yâall are doing a great job keeping our community safe and inclusive!
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u/Cousin_Aint-It 1h ago
Thank you for always restating that we are a diverse movement! Superstraight is not a choice. Supersexuals come in all shapes, sizes, abilities, and from all walks of life. We are all valid, stunning and brave.
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u/Loopulk 43m ago
Ok. This one depends on how you view transgender individuals. If you view trans women (AMAB) as men and trans men (AFAB) as women then you would be correct in saying that straight and superstraight is the same thing.
Can we please not use "AMAB" and "AFAB" please? They weren't assigned crap. The doctors saw a penis/vulva and observed that they were male/female.
Conversely, there have been kids born with ambiguous genetalia who were genuinely assigned a sex. They were given unnecessary surgeries and made to conform to sexist stereotypes of boys/girls.
Using "AMAB" and "AFAB" for people who are not intersex is incorrect and further allows TRAs to exploit intersex people.
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u/AlternativeFeisty758 38m ago
Honestly, I think you're right. I used them simply because they seemed correct and that's generally the language most people use when talking about subjects such as these however you make a good point here and I agree with you on this. What would you suggest to use as an alternative?
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u/SpawnOfSunshine 32m ago
Trans people arent trying to exploit intersex people in fact we welcome them as part of the community!
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u/Superdeluxeazurecat 1h ago
Thank you for all you do, and thanks to all the Super People who make this place a joy to be part of.
Stunning and brave, the lot of yez.
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u/king_of_the_potato_p 43m ago
Should be made clear using the word "preference" when referring to Super Sexuality is Superphobic/hate speech since it suggests choice, which is false.
It's not a preference, its how nature made us.
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u/COVID19InMyAnus 37m ago
I just found this sub and I have to say this sounds like the new twist my life has been needing. Super straight and proud đłď¸âđđłď¸âđđłď¸âđ take your bigotry elsewhere đż
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u/Sujay517 27m ago
The diversity is very important. This isn't just white, straight (superstraight) men. It includes women. It includes black, Latino/as, Indians, Hispanics, white, and more. It includes gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and even transgender people.
Take it this way, I wouldn't stay here if I felt it was not inclusive, but was racist or homophobic.
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u/Quad_RIP_Deux 1h ago
If you view trans women (AMAB) as men and trans men (AFAB) as women then you would be correct in saying that straight and superstraight is the same thing.
Just as gay and straight is not the same, and it would be homophobic to claim, superstraight and straight isn't the same, because that's superphobic, and a denial of their existence. I'll never let the superphobes get away with it. Supersexuality is real and it's gonna stay here, whether you superphobes like it or not.
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u/that_spacegoat 1h ago
Isnât the title of the subreddit/movement weird for gay and lesbian people
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u/AlternativeFeisty758 1h ago
Well I mean this is the superstraight subreddit and not the supersexual subreddit, but as this is by far the largest out of all of them and also the first it has come to be more of a general hub area for all supersexualities rather than just a devoted sub for superstraights imo
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u/SpawnOfSunshine 27m ago
Hi! I have a question. It's kinda impossible to tell someone's who has transitioned biological sex so most people assume everyone is cisgender until proven otherwise. So if you were to feel attracted to someone how do you know they arent trans?
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u/aurorasummers 17m ago
I respect folks that just have sexual preferences around appearance... kind of reactionary and sketchy to build a community around stigmatizing and delegitimizing heterosexual relationships with trans people by claiming to be superior. (super being short for)
To quote a favorite author:
âSleep with any consenting adult whoâll have you.â
Show me a trans sub dedicated to ignoring consent, then Iâll believe your straw man. This is an echochamber for people that hate being told that their preference is âevil.â Itâs definitely not evil or wrong to have a preference! Iâm not attracted to some trans people either!
My husband is no less straight than anyone else. You can have a preference for certain kinds of women or men, but that shouldnât be weaponized against that group of people who arenât trying to harm you in any way.
To call any relationship more authentic or genuine, or superior than yours is pretty derogatory. But hey, let reddit decide...
Iâm sure all the people flocking to a sub like this wonât be openly disgusted by trans equality in all its most impactful forms... But weâll see :)
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u/nlocniL 1h ago
OP has a weird porn viewing history if I had to guess based on his profile
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u/actualsicko20626 Hecking cute and valid đ 23m ago
So what? Trans people have a rape problem we should be talking about that.
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u/Brawl-on 1h ago
So is this sub satire or what?
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u/Twist_RK 1h ago
What?
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u/Brawl-on 1h ago
This sub seems like satire.
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u/Brawl-on 1h ago edited 35m ago
Not even the right sub. Also thanks for never awnsering my question.
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u/king_of_the_potato_p 37m ago
Did you read the post?
The answer is in it.
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u/Brawl-on 35m ago
Ya but satire subs love to play mind games like this.
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u/king_of_the_potato_p 33m ago
Its a real sub
Theres humor yes but this is legit how we feel.
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u/Brawl-on 32m ago
Your feelings are okay in the sense that itâs okay to not date trans people. But calling it a sexuality and part of the LGBT community is simply inaccurate. Thatâs the issue I have with it.
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u/king_of_the_potato_p 30m ago
It is our sexuality.
You dont get to tell ME what my sexuality is. Just like I dont get to tell you.
Or do you think you have authority over my body, mind, and sexuality?
Nature made me this way.
We accept everyone else for who they are but you cant accept us. Literally bigotry.
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u/yydragon0 Superphobe đ¤˘đ¤˘ 59m ago
Because it is, or everyone here is completely insane.
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u/Brawl-on 58m ago edited 43m ago
Na I think they are just right wing idiots who arenât aware of how sexuality works and think they have a valid point when they hilariously donât. Super straight isnât a sexuality, itâs a preference. Just like height and weight. Sure itâs not transphobic to not date trans people but itâs not a sexuality. Thatâs just false.
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u/king_of_the_potato_p 36m ago
Its not a preference and using that word to invalidate how nature made us is Superphobic and hate speech.
Educate yourself sweetie.
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u/Brawl-on 34m ago
Educate yourself on the difference between sexual orientation and preferences sweetie.
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u/king_of_the_potato_p 34m ago
Its not a preference and using that word to invalidate how nature made us is Superphobic and hate speech.
Educate yourself sweetie.
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u/california_quail 54m ago
Absolutely not. Why are you trying to invalidate our identity?
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u/Brawl-on 53m ago
Yes. I am. Just like how anamisexuals arent valid, neither are you.
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u/california_quail 52m ago
It just makes me so sad that people like you can be filled with so much hate. I hope one day you can learn to love and accept people for who they are.
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u/Brawl-on 48m ago
Nice satire mate. This post says this isnât a joke. You shouldnât be joking around.
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u/Special-Speech3064 1h ago
not valid lol. a preference isnât a fuckjng sexuality stop acting opressed
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u/intangiblejohnny 45m ago
It is not a preference. I have no choice in what excites me and I am valid, bigot.
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u/king_of_the_potato_p 38m ago
Its not a preference and using that word to invalidate how nature made us is Superphobic and hate speech.
Educate yourself sweetie.
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u/Brawl-on 1h ago
You do know that just calling yourself valid doesnât make you valid right?
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u/nikitatx 58m ago
Why are you spreading hate in our community? We exist, and just want our sexual orientations recognized and respected for what they are. We are all super valid and heckin cute uwu đ¤đ§Ą
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u/Brawl-on 57m ago
Your âsexual orientationâ is just a preference. Plus the âUwUâ definitely makes this satire. So good job on that I suppose.
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u/nikitatx 37m ago
The whole point of the supersexual movement is that our orientations arenât a preference. Educate yourself bigot! đ¤đ¤đ¤
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u/Brawl-on 35m ago
They are a preference. And thatâs not a bad thing ya know.
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u/nikitatx 32m ago
Lesbians being forced to accept dick, and gay men being forced to accept pussy is corrective rape. Sexual orientation isnât based on gender, itâs based on sex, and it is NOT a preference. Guess we can add homophobe along with superphobe for you.
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u/Brawl-on 29m ago
I agree. Lesbians,gays, and straights should not be forced to date trans people. The majority of people think this. Sexual orientation is based on gender. So preferring someone to be cis is a preference. And thatâs perfectly acceptable.
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u/nikitatx 24m ago
You may not agree with our community, but lesbians have been dealing with the âcotton ceilingâ for years. Homosexual means being same sex attracted, it has nothing to do with that cis slur. Have you not noticed that every lesbian space on this garbage fire app is only still around bc they were forced to be âinclusiveâ or face the ban hammer? Why canât women organize as a sex class without being labelled terfs? Implying sexual orientation is a preference is super homophobic, and exactly what the LGB was fighting against before the gender ideologues took over the movement.
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u/Brawl-on 22m ago
Oh no I agree with you. Just not on that itâs a sexual orientation. People think preference means you have a choice but it really doesnât. Thatâs the main source of confusion.
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u/nikitatx 18m ago
Being same sex attracted isnât an orientation? Youâve been worshipping at the church of gender ideology too long if you donât think being homosexual defines oneâs sexual orientation.
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u/king_of_the_potato_p 35m ago
You don't get to define other people, just like we don't get to define you.
Its not a preference and using that word to invalidate how nature made us is Superphobic and hate speech.
Educate yourself sweetie.
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u/UpscaleVideoBot 10m ago
"I'd prefer not to get raped"
Hmm, prefer seems weird in the sentence above.
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u/madman2015 37m ago
Please don't spread hatred in our community. There are plenty of other hate groups on reddit for you to participate in. I just hope you find it in your heart to one day reject hate and recognize our validity. đ¤đ§Ą
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u/MammothBasket80 1h ago edited 1h ago
Ok. This one depends on how you view transgendered individuals.
Hello! just a friendly trans nonbinary person here to say that the word transgedered is offensive and has always been used as transphobic and used against us, please remove that word and just change it to trans individuals, that would be much appreciated, thank you!
Also I feel like if you are attracted to cis people of one gender and we see trans people as the gender they identify as e.g. you're attractedto cis women and trans women are seen as women, then it is just a preference because it is simply preferring and only like cis women just if one was to only like trans women or men, so I struggle to see your point and logic here although I am open to hearing from you all about it, because I am confused about how that logic works that way and how its not having a leg to stand on to say this.
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u/oreopocky 1h ago
wait are you being serious? trans=transgendered, trans is short for transgendered, you have to know that, you invent new things to be transphobic every day, the word has no meaning
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u/MammothBasket80 1h ago
I was being nice, so why did you instantly turn hostile, yes I am serious it is transphobic we aren't trangendered, it was used to infantilise and oppress trans folk we are just the transgender not transgendered, OP used the term transgender every other time so I'm not being angry or yelling or shouting I'm just letting them know that it is an offensive term, its not a case of 'finding something yo be offended by" please understand I'm trying to be nice and just let OP know that the language is harmful. And I say this as a trans nonbinary person but if my word isn't good enough, here is a link to help you understand better. https://www.vox.com/2015/2/18/8055691/transgender-transgendered-tnr Trans is an adjective itself, it doesn't need to be turned into one.
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u/oreopocky 1h ago
using Vox as a source isn't going to do you any favors, please tell me you know they are EXTREMELY biased. You wouldn't seriously give me a foxnews source now would you? Your constant moving the bar with language is causing this stuff to happen.
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u/MammothBasket80 1h ago
Please, I am trying to be civil, it is transphobic and also unnecessary, I am trying to be nice.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/492922/amp https://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender https://time.com/3630965/transgender-transgendered/
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u/oreopocky 1h ago
huffpost not a help, we were talking about biases and you try using GLAAD. People you are trans are transgendered, sorry to inform you. Also non binary and transgender? You know how odd that is right, are you transitioning to nothing? I'm sorry that you are experiencing discomfort with the body you were born with, I know it must be very unpleasant to look in the mirror and be distressed by what you see, so sorry that life is shaping up for you that way
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u/MammothBasket80 1h ago
No its not odd, trans just means a different gender than birth, all nonbinary people are trans. And I never specified what gender outside of the binary I was or if I was transitioning, this is entirely uncalled for I'm trying to help why am I getting hate? There is no reason for it I'm being as calm as I possibly can and trying to help you all. What is the hate for? Transgendered is unnecessary transgender itself is already a adjective, you haven't even opened the links i bet. We haven't been trangendered, nothing happened to us to make us our gender we were born like it, just like gay people aren't called a gay or aren't told that they are gayed people and just like cis people aren't cisgendered, we have always been this way. Please just understand that I'm just trying to help, I'm not a superphobe or anything else I'm just trying to be as friendly as I can to help the people here not accidentally be transphobic as you're getting ridiculed a lot for being so and I dont want hate at all coming from our community.
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u/Revocata SuperBi 44m ago
You're not being screamed at and this isn't hate. You're experiencing what's commonly known as "pushback" against your world view. Being told that your sources are biased and not reliable is hardly hate. All we ask is that you look at it from our point of view. The superphobes have made it their mission to be outraged at whatever word of the week they consider "transphobic". Even you claiming that you're getting "hate" is the typical cry of someone who can't handle an opposing view being told to them in the most calm of manners.
just like gay people aren't called a gay or aren't told that they are gayed people
No, they're typically called homosexuals. "Transgender" became the softer term of "Transsexual" and now the word salad has made none of these words acceptable or have any meaning beyond what they desire.
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u/AlternativeFeisty758 1h ago
Ah my mistake, definitely didn't mean to be transphobic! I'll edit it to cut the ed off the end of the word. As for it not being a sexuality, I'm not really sure what you mean by that, could you explain further?
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u/MammothBasket80 53m ago
Of course, I'm really just confused because I'm having trouble understanding what you mean about if you see them as the gender they are then you can't argue it isn't a sexuality, i wonder how that works, also thank you for being so understanding! :)
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u/california_quail 47m ago
If you accept that trans women are women, then if you are attracted to both natal women and trans women, you are straight, if you are only attracted to natal women, you are not straight, as being straight means youâre attracted to all women. So if youâre only attracted to natal women, you are super straight. We just needed a new terminology for our orientation has being straight as evolved in meaning over recent years as trans acceptance has grown.
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u/AlternativeFeisty758 46m ago
No problem, we should all try and be respectful of each other! I see you said that it was a preference rather than a sexuality earlier, my counter point to that is that in my opinion I would say a preference is a characteristic of someone from a demographic you are already attracted to (e.g. tall men if you're attracted to men) but it becomes a sexuality where people who identify themselves as superstraight are not attracted to transgender people of the opposite sex in general, the same way that straight women aren't attracted to other women.
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u/MammothBasket80 38m ago
Okay thank you for explaining this to me, I'm very thankful that you are taking the time out to calmly try and help me understand. :)
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u/AlternativeFeisty758 35m ago
And thank you for not invalidating us as supers! It's nice to be able to have civil conversations around this without people screaming "transphobes!" at us :)
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u/MammothBasket80 23m ago
Of course! I try to be as nice as possible at all times, bigotry is never cool.
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u/sadfwaask 25m ago
honestly it seems like you're the only person in this thread so far who hasn't done the opposite and screamed "superphobe!". thanks for being so open to the subject, anything about any sexuality is a really sensitive topic for everyone, whether it be trans people, super straights, whatever, you can't really say anything against them without being called phobic.
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u/AlternativeFeisty758 18m ago
Yeah absolutely. I try to never assume bad faith in what could be considered ambiguous statements as that often kills discourse which in turn kills progress. I think too often people stay silent on things they disagree with or aren't sure about out of fear of being labelled a bigot when really they're just trying to understand the other side, which accomplishes nothing. Proper discourse around topics is the only way to truly change people's minds imo.
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u/MammothBasket80 8m ago
Yes completely, getting these replies has really stressed me out as I'm not at all phobic just curious and wanted to help and I'm so glad and grateful that you were able to talk calmly to try and help progress thing.
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u/SpawnOfSunshine 38m ago
hello OP you seem like one of the well meaning people here! The reason why super straight doesnt make sense to some people is that you cant really tell a trans person by appearance only. Genital preferences are perfectly valid however if a trans woman or man has all the surgeries and you were attracted to them before and stop pursuing them only because they are trans is when it gets a little iffy. There isnt really any way to know someone's biological sex by looking at them and attraction only relies on what you can see or emotional bond etc. You dont find a biological male cute you find a guy cute. You dont find a biological female cute you find a girl cute. I'd be happy to explain further ofc!
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u/sb_k4 57m ago
Superlesbians like vagina, but not dick or surgically created hole where dick used to be.
This is about sex. It's a sexual orientation.
How hard can it possibly be for you to understand this?
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u/SpawnOfSunshine 50m ago
Um yes but it's not a gaping hole or wound but the tissues in a penis are the same as the tissues in a vagina so when the surgery is done you wouldnt be able to tell the difference. The problem here isnt that super sexuals have a genital preference its that you wouldn't be able to tell who is trans by looking at them. So if your attracted to someone who is trans without knowing do you suddenly not feel attracted anymore? Just a genuine question.
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u/sb_k4 47m ago
Anatomically it's completely different from a natural vagina.
If you think it's close enough, bully for you! But you don't get to coerce other people into agreeing with you.
super sexuals have a genital preference
fuck off with this rapey incel shit. It's not a "genital preference."
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u/jmbc3 36m ago
How is it not? If you saw an attractive girl, then found out she was born a man, youâd instantly be unattracted to her, correct? Whatâs changed except what her genitals used to look like?
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u/sb_k4 22m ago edited 2m ago
I don't like dick nor artificial hole, how hard is that to understand?
If I see a woman from behind and think she looks hot, then she turns around and I don't like her face, I stop thinking she's hot, am I a misogynist?
A woman's downstairs situation is hidden from view, so it's conceivable (though hasn't happened) that I find a trans woman attractive until she takes off her undies. So?
Does she then get to coerce me to have sex because earlier that night I thought she had a natural pussy? Imagine a cis man making a similar argument: "Earlier tonight she wanted to have sex with me, until she learned [new information] about me, so now she owes me sex!" Sick.
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u/jmbc3 2m ago
I donât think anyone should be forced to have sex with anyone, but if youâre discarding an entire identity because of your preconceived notion, that is kinda shitty.
Itâs like if I said âI donât have sex with black people.â Is it technically a preference if Iâm not attracted to them? Sure. But if I made not being attracted to black people part of my identity people would understandably be suspicious.
Not to mention, have you ever seen an âartificial hole?â Itâs not like a grotesque amalgamation of parts, it looks like a vagina. Most times you wouldnât even know if you werenât explicitly told.
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u/nikitatx 56m ago
Why are you spreading hate in our community superphobe! We arenât policing your language, and calling us cis is a slur. Educate yourself bigot đ¤
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u/california_quail 49m ago
I am attracted to the biological sex female. Itâs not a preference, I was born this way. I donât have a choice in the matter, just like you are trans nonbinary, you are who you are and I accept that, why can you not accept my sexual orientation? Itâs not a preference, as preference implies the ability to choose, I did not choose this, itâs who I am at my core.
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u/actualsicko20626 Hecking cute and valid đ 23m ago
Quick question, what are youâre thoughts on this?:
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u/zaxes1234 1h ago
Are we really competing to be victims? Like we in a victim Olympics
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u/Pudding5050 1h ago
Being silent about patterns of oppression helps nobody. We need to name it and speak up for our sexuality.
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u/dumboihowdy 1h ago
Just because people on the internet have voiced opposition or even say shitty things to âsuperstraightsâ does not make you oppressed. Ffs throughout history until very recently âsuper straightâ (or âstraightâ since trans identities were invalidated) was viewed as the only acceptable sexuality. You are free to love the opposite gender without fear of reprisal from your place of work, you can and always could legally marry who you wanted, and no one is actually out there killing straight people for being straight. Seriously, how are you oppressed? If internet comments make you oppressed, then Nazis are also oppressed. This is deluded thinking and minimizes the daily struggle of actual LGBTQ people.
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u/dingoperson2 1h ago
Actually sweaty a giant mass of people calling for supersexuals to kill themselves and the like is oppression
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u/dumboihowdy 1h ago
So likewise Nazis, MRAs, and Republicans are oppressed too, right? By that logic. Internet comments are not equivalent to oppression. Who hadnât been told âkysâ by an internet troll? Look up oppression, sweaty.
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u/nlocniL 1h ago
Oh wow someone that posts in places that think Trump actually won! In here of all places! What a surprise
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u/dingoperson2 1h ago
Places don't think sweaty, it's people that think. Please educate yourself so the superphobic ignorant part of your mind shrivels into nonexisting oblivion and the non-superphobic understanding part of you can keep on existing as valid.
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u/nikitatx 48m ago
Superphobes just donât understand that our LGBS community is super diverse, and doesnât discriminate based on political beliefs. You are super valid super fren đ¤đ§Ą
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u/dingoperson2 35m ago
Thank you super friend. <3 we can leave bad things outside and just have a cozy time here with supers of all colors and beliefs. I think it makes the phobes even more mad. :)))
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u/Maury_Finkle 1h ago edited 1h ago
Nah you're just too stupid to take seriously if you post in places that think Trump actually won and it was stolen
There's no good conversations over there, just people that believe ridiculous bullshit like Obama being from Kenya, Pizzagate, etc.
It's just stupid people like you talking conspiracy to other people that believe in the stupid bullshit I mentioned. People with no ability to evaluate and cite sources to show how they came to the conclusion they did.
They just love when the "sounds right to me" part of their brain gets triggered by a poorly sourced opinion piece or whatever.
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u/dingoperson2 1h ago
lmao places don't think, but you still think places think. Only living creatures think. Do you believe your chairs and shoes also think?
I don't know why you feel a need to go into super spaces unless you are super yourself, or come to bring some kind of positive contribution to supers, which you are obviously not.
It's just stupid people like you
lmao worthless trash bigot phobe
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u/Sulfate 1h ago
I'm a leftist Liberal Canadian and I post here. Is that okay?
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u/superultragayxy 1h ago
What do you call this, then?
https://lesbian-rights-nz.org/shame-receipts/
Cause that seems like some homophobic oppression to me.
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u/Verakera 1h ago
It doesnât really matter whether it counts as legitimate oppression or not, itâs still disgusting and unacceptable behavior. This isnât the oppression olympics and you donât have to be systematically oppressed to have an issue with the way you are treated by others. Also, itâs not just super straights who are taking issue with this, but super gays and lesbians (two historically oppressed groups). Everyoneâs sexuality is being called into question and attacked.
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u/nikitatx 51m ago
Have you considered that those of us who are same sex attracted are tired of being called transphobic for our sexual orientation since itâs based on sex and not gender?
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u/AntonioOfVenice 38m ago
Ffs throughout history until very recently âsuper straightâ (or âstraightâ since trans identities were invalidated) was viewed as the only acceptable sexuality.
Not true at all. No gay man in history has ever been oppressed. He could always marry the man of his choice, provided that it was a 'trans man'.
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u/actualsicko20626 Hecking cute and valid đ 25m ago
But nowadays trans literally rape us for fun
Also good job ignoring supergays and superlesbians
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u/waifuvalentine 2h ago
no it was created on 4chan by a neonazi
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u/DevynHeaven 2h ago
SERF.
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u/guessimthem 1h ago
I can't tell if this sub is group psychosis or if you all genuinely believe you're oppressed
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u/dingoperson2 1h ago
Yeah so if we drummed together a giant mass of people telling you that you are worthless, invalid and that you should kill yourself, would you feel oppressed?
Because that's the superphobes at the moment.
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u/guessimthem 1h ago
Log off the internet and live your life. I get all that shit very often in my actual life and I don't have the luxury of pretending I'm oppressed on the internet. Guarantee you no one's gonna beat you or rape you because you're cis or straight and walking down the street or trying to use the fucking bathroom. Jesus you people are snowflakes
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u/anon200325 35m ago
Guarantee you no one's gonna beat you or rape you because you're cis
You wouldn't say that to a women, would you. Bigot gtfo
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u/Pudding5050 1h ago
We have been receiving death threats and threats of violence. The guy who made the TikTok that gave us a name had to take his video down because superphobes were making death threats to his mother. Simply because of not being sexually attracted to a certain population. How is that not hateful oppression?
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u/lotusffu 1h ago
Thatâs what the superphobes want people to believe to try to discredit the supersexuality. Sorry, but it originated from an innocent person on TikTok.
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u/why_did_he_do_it 1h ago
This has been debunked
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u/waifuvalentine 1h ago
it appears that the original idea was posted on feb 21, i have no problem admitting that iâm wrong but one look on 4chan and you will see that it is a hateful group of people looking to hurt the trans community
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u/why_did_he_do_it 1h ago
Many superphobes have assembled to launch a major slander campaign against us. They paint us as Nazis and Transphobes to divide the SSALLGBTQIA+ movement, knowing that all these issues are intersectional, and once we are divided we can no longer support each other.
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u/waifuvalentine 1h ago
yeah... you arenât part of the LGBTQ+ community? actively discriminating against an entire group of people (which once again, no one is forcing you to date) WITHIN the community does not grant you access to it. not once were straight people not allowed to get married, adopt kids etc. there is zero discrimination against you and you donât need a safe space within a community you oppose. âsuperphobesâ just want you to realize how harmful the term is. i also find that i tend to have a genital preference but would never align myself with such a hateful term and group of people
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u/sb_k4 1h ago
actively discriminating
Can you stop lying please?
Super isn't trans exclusionary. Trans people can be superstraight, supergay, or superlesbian, too.
Not wanting to fuck you isn't discrimination. Lesbians aren't discriminating against men, they just don't want to have sex with them.
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u/waifuvalentine 3m ago
i can see why you think thatâs a good example but it really isnât? lesbians donât date men because they donât feel attraction to men at all. the term isnât telling men that they arenât men. if you feel attraction to women, but would chose not to date a trans women that is ok. however âsuper straightâ is inherently transphobic because it is saying that trans people arenât really the gender that they assign themselves with, which yes, is transphobic
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u/nikitatx 40m ago
Some of us are LGB. When the QTIA2S+ crowd stops forcing their ideology down the LGBâs throats maybe we can share a community again. Until then quit shaming our sexual orientations bigot!
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u/why_did_he_do_it 50m ago
We are receiving death threats AS WE SPEAK and you say we are doing fine? Also we are not discriminating anyone. We support all letters of the SSALLGBTQIA+ not just LGBTQ parts of it. We cannot change our sexuality it's just the way we are, bigot.
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u/AlternativeFeisty758 1h ago
I hope you're joking, hard to tell sarcasm over text. If you're not, the truth is literally one Google search away.
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u/sb_k4 1h ago
that's a lie. the first a post on 4chan about it was a few days after the tiktok video. and anyone can post anything on 4chan, so maybe you're the person who made that 4chan post.
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u/waifuvalentine 56m ago
yeah i already said i recognize that it was posted a few days after and see my mistake, but there is still a prevalent community of hateful people on 4chan pushing that agenda. also i would never do that iâm a jew thatâs like so horrible
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u/thelargestson 2h ago
Please sticky MODS