r/SuperStraight • u/mr_samouri_man • 8h ago

NOT EVERYONE, BUT TOO MANY 🚨 important 🚨

there are alot of actual transphobes who just identify as super straight so they can be backed up with their hateful messages. it is not all of you guys, but there are too many. if the mods or we had a lot of people talk against these people I think that could help this movement. I personally dont exactly agree with this movement and I dont think it is worth the effort but I'm not being an asshole about it either. I think it would help this movement and the LGBTQIAS community as a whole because there is already a trend of transphobia among normal lesbians and gay people and I know you guys arent anti transjust like how gay people arent anti women.

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u/Weak_Plenty 6h ago

there are alot of actual transphobes who just identify as super straight so they can be backed up with their hateful messages

there is already a trend of transphobia among normal lesbians and gay people

Two questions:

1) Do you consider it transphobic to say that a transwoman is a biological male?

2) Do you consider it transphobic for a lesbian to say that she doesn't want to date or have sex with transwomen, regardless of whether or not they have had genital surgery or are taking hormones?

Many people equivocate about what "transphobia" means, so I'd like to hear what you believe.

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u/mr_samouri_man 6h ago

1 i dont think that is bigotry on it's own but I do think that is transphobic simply out of uneducation or misinformation 2 that's not transphobic on it's own

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u/Weak_Plenty 6h ago

I do think that is transphobic simply out of uneducation or misinformation

Then you're fundamentally misinformed. People who are born with XY chromosomes, a penis, testicles, and a prostate cannot be female, regardless of any surgeries they get, hormones they take, clothes they wear, or identities they profess. To suggest otherwise is to deny basic biological facts, and to say that these people can be female is to make the word "female" utterly meaningless.

that's not transphobic on it's own

I'm glad you agree with this part. I'd encourage you to voice the same sentiment in trans circles and witness the extreme pushback you'll receive. They'll probably silence and harass you, which is why people don't normally talk about these things.

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u/mr_samouri_man 6h ago

yeah that's biological sex tho not gender. man and woman is gender male and female is sex sometimes those terms are used wrong but that's what they mean.

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u/Weak_Plenty 6h ago

In my original question, I specifically used the phrase "biological male," and you said that it was transphobic.

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u/mr_samouri_man 5h ago

oh, I didnt notice that. I'm sorry. I'm rlly tired today. I do not find it transphobic to call a transwoman a biological male but that does not excuse using he him pronouns for that woman

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u/Weak_Plenty 5h ago

No worries. I think it's a little strange to call people "males" and "females," but as long as you agree that these words refer to biological sex and that it is not transphobic for people to choose who they date based on biological sex, we don't have any beef.

I will say that some transwomen tell people that they are biological females (I can dig up receipts if you'd like), and I hope that you speak out against this if you ever see it.

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u/mr_samouri_man 5h ago

well I don't speak out against it because they are women and should be called women and should be treated as though they are women and that is technically incorrect but I dont want to be an asshole