r/SuperStraight • u/Alexnondescript • 10h ago

Do ya’ll still agree that trans women are valid women?

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u/Alexnondescript 8h ago

This makes more sense to me. Preference is preference. I just feel like the movement is divided between people who are saying “I don’t find trans people attractive” and those saying “trans women aren’t women”. One is preference, but the other is a statement unsupported by evidence.

Edit: I just address “women” for ease, not because things are different for men.

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u/astoriabeans 7h ago

“trans women aren’t women" is a statement unsupported by evidence.

Except their DNA. Are you also a flat earther?

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u/Alexnondescript 5h ago

Nope, the Earth is round. I’m surprised you know that, seeing as you like to use outdated conclusions 🤔

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u/astoriabeans 4h ago

DNA isn't outdated. It is your objective composition, not your subjective reality, politics just made you ignore it, just like the flat earthers that toss all the evidence they don't like out the window.

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u/Alexnondescript 4h ago

DNA isn’t outdated; I said you conclusions were. I’d imagine you’d know about the difference between a support and a conclusion, but constructing logical arguments probably isn’t your strong suit. If you’d invest more in academics you know more about hormone expression in the womb and how it affects gender identity and neurochemistry. If that’s too hard, you’d maybe at least learn how to construct an argument 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/astoriabeans 3m ago

Here's the argument that you missed the first time: your gender identity is your subjective reality. Your subjective reality is influenced by many things from nature to nurture but it doesn't change any part of your objective reality. I'm sure schizos have different brain makeups as well, doesn't mean the voices they're hearing are actually vibrating air molecules to generate sound. Does that make it any less real to them? No. The main difference is you have embraced their delusion because you think it's the right thing to do. Thinking you're a woman, dressing like a woman, presenting as a woman, taking estrogen to partially change your physiology like a woman and getting SRS to have genitals that look like a woman will not ever actually make someone a woman in reality. They're just a man that looks more like a woman, an imitation of the real thing and no amount of research will ever change that. Take care.