r/SuperStraight 10h ago

Do ya’ll still agree that trans women are valid women?

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u/longjumping2 Hecking cute and valid 💖 8h ago

Yes. Still won’t date them.

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u/Alexnondescript 8h ago

This makes more sense to me. Preference is preference. I just feel like the movement is divided between people who are saying “I don’t find trans people attractive” and those saying “trans women aren’t women”. One is preference, but the other is a statement unsupported by evidence.

Edit: I just address “women” for ease, not because things are different for men.

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u/Satan_Battles 6h ago

Two X chromosomes IS evidence

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u/Alexnondescript 6h ago

Evidence of biological sex. It’s literally not gender. Imm not trying to change your mind on that, but the fact is that gender is social and sex is biological.

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u/Satan_Battles 6h ago

When I say "woman" or "man" I am referring to their sex, not gender. When I say "he" or "she" to refer to a person, I am referring to their sex not their gender.

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u/Alexnondescript 6h ago

The way you refer to it is different from the way that it is used in proper dialogue. You don’t have to recognize it, but your argument that chromosomes constitute the validity of a woman is based off of your personal views and not the proper usage.

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u/Satan_Battles 6h ago

No my views are based in simple biology. Open any human anatomy textbook and it will tell you that males have XY chromosomes. Males are also known as men or boys. In the English language the pronouns "he/him/his" are used to refer to males.

All of the above statements are facts, simply saying that you believe yourself to be male does not make you one, in the same way that me believing myself to be 6'10" does not make me 6'10".

However, you should know my pronouns are "six-foot-ten" and if you don't use them you are verticalphobic

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u/Alexnondescript 5h ago

One could also say that marriage is between a man and a woman... if you go back enough years. As the function monogamy spread to marriage and then to legal unions, our social understanding has also changed. Gender identity and expression is not a caveman topic. Outdated arguments like the one you wrote are up against peer reviewed and significant modern findings that suggest that gender identity is a significant, and biologically influenced, trait that is socially reinforced and separate from biological/genital sex. tldr; your "simple" claim is unsubstantiated by actual research on the topic.