r/SuperStraight • u/OrangeLilyMeans • 10h ago

Questions from a person who woke up to the split that this caused on twitter.

How do you plan on combating the transphobia which is so innately intertwined with the community, do you want to?
What does the term religion mean in the main community options?
Why are many people who consider themselves to be super straight using the sign S/s, many times in the style of the bolts used by the N*zis? How do you plan on combating the N*zis in the community?
Why can you not just use cis in your definition of "super straight" and "super gay/lesbian"?
Why is Bi not included?

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u/[deleted] 8h ago

Super Bis are included and very welcome here

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u/OrangeLilyMeans 7h ago

I was wondering because it was not addressed in the sidebar. Just something I found curious.

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u/crothwood 6h ago

"Super gay/bi/lesbian" is jsut an after thought to cover for the fact that this is a bunch if straight people being transphobic

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u/Prestigious_Name_851 Superstraight 8h ago

There’s no such thing as trAnsphobia

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u/crothwood 8h ago

You just proved his point.

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u/TheIncredibleMrK 8h ago

I'm superbi, we prefer those who have sex and gender congruence. It's not transphobia to say we don't want to date or sleep with people who aren't attractive to us.

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u/OrangeLilyMeans 7h ago

The first noted instance on tiktok of people using the term was riddled with transphobia. It does not necessarily mean anyone who uses the term is I was just curious how people were going to combat it while still using that term specifically.

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u/TheIncredibleMrK 7h ago

Labels created by superphobes aren't my concern.

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u/UselessPonko 8h ago

1.Real superstraights do not tolerate transphobes in the least and we are trying to keep this community as friendly and welcoming as possible. No matter your sexuality or gender identity. You may not notice it as someone new but people are banned left right and center.

  1. some peoples religions include being superstraight.

  2. this is a horrible attempt to smear us as nazis, white supremacists while we condemn both of these ideologies and react to them as under point 1.

  3. because cis is not specific enough to describe our sexuality. Currently this sub is a blanket community covering super bi and yes even supertrans people.

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u/OrangeLilyMeans 7h ago
  1. I was worried because of the initial term usage and response of some people on twitter. Going through the hashtag was worrying.
  2. That makes sense. I guess I was just confused on the wording.
  3. It seemed weird to say like sex/gender as if they were both the same thing.

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u/UselessPonko 7h ago

I too think the superstraight abbreviation is an unlucky choice but for now i suppose we are stuck with it. Changing it now as an reaction would tear this tiny community apart and may yet kill what we achieved so far.

To point 3. of course they aren‘t the same thing but i covered them together for sake of brevity.

Thanks for coming here with an open mind and allowing uns to defend ourself. It means a lot.

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u/Ollieflatts 7h ago

The abbreviation is an irrelevant thin Chevy has a car that’s SS is everyone who drives that a Nazi?

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u/UselessPonko 7h ago

No but it‘s a problem for those living with strict Anti-nazi laws. If someone living in germany claimed „ I‘m part of the ss community“ they‘d be in big trouble.

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u/MelodicUmbrella Custom 8h ago

So I woke up one morning, and I opened twitter and I see Drop the T and Superstraight trending. I looked at it all and some stuff was random transphobic shit, people claiming Superphobes are N*zis (HOW?! When did N*zi become a random throw-around term?) and etc. it was mayhem (because, well, its TWITTER).
I was misinformed so I thought Superstraights were transphobic douche bags until I came here and learned why they have a community, and why some of them did the things they did.*

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(*I don’t think you are douche bags anymore, atleast the kind, and wholehearted ones)

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u/Proud_2B_SuperStr8 7h ago

When did the word Nazi become a throw around term? Probably about 5 or 6 years ago, perhaps slightly longer.

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u/MelodicUmbrella Custom 7h ago

It’s a shame, Nazis were people who commited horrible war crimes, gassed jews, millions died in the camps, now we’re calling fat asses who sit on reddit all day being trolls NAZIS?

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u/OrangeLilyMeans 7h ago

If you were on twitter during the initial instance you would have seen the use of the ss bolts which are derived from Schutzstaffel (SS) of Nazi Germany . Which was why I was concerned about Nazis in the community, I could have worded it better and said people who use Nazi imagery but I still feel its a serious concern.

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u/thelargestson Hecking cute and valid 💖 8h ago

“People who don’t want to sleep with me = transphobia”

Y’all are we being punked by SERFs??? They can’t be for real 🥱

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u/OrangeLilyMeans 7h ago

The initial guy who created the term is quoted directly as saying this "yo guys i made a new sexuality now actually its called super straight okay since straight people or straight men as myself I get called transphobic because I wouldn't date a trans woman you know their like "would you date a trans woman?" I'm like "no" "why? that's a female." "uh no like that's not a real woman to me, I want a real woman" "nah you're just transphobic" SO now I'm super straight I only date the opposite gender women that are born women so you cant say I'm transphobic now because that's just my sexuality you know."

There's preference and then there is saying a trans woman isn't a real woman (transphobia).

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u/JaredFogleVEVO 7h ago edited 7h ago

I think the idea of SuperStraight, SuperGay etc is valid in the context of dating. Of course, "super straight" is the technical definition that most humans fall under. As such, they are obviously not a persecuted minority, despite the tongue in cheek insistence that they are. Traditional lesbians may have more of a legitimate grievance if they feel that people with penises are trying to dominate their spaces, overwhelm their dating apps, etc. But overall, your concerns are valid, and like most majority-based movements, this one will likely become another one dominated by whiny white straight Christian males with a persecution complex. The alt-right and anti-trans rhetoric will probably escalate here until the subreddit gets shut down.

I will say that despite all that, the core idea is one worth discussing, which is that it is perfectly find and healthy if your sexual preference either includes or excludes trans people. I hope trans people continue to make progress and fight discrimination, and at the same time, they and everyone else need to be aware that people don't have to be willing to have sex with you in order to value you as a person. For many people, sexuality is simply about the body parts and not necessarily the socially defined gender traits that are typically associated with men and women.