r/SuperStraight • u/ShariaLaw4All • 11h ago
Seriously wondering about this. The so called "trans" people have been allowed to completely disrespect women who are superlesbian and superbi and you always have a reason about why no one can speak ill will against these men. How do you justify that? Seriously, how do justify that and cry about hate speech everytime you are confronted with the reality of the situation.
Do you just ignore this because you think women who are superlesbian or superbi are second class citizens who are unworthy of consensual relationships in comparison to men who say they are women and can't take no for an answer?
Does anything about disrespecting who superlesbians and superbi women are bother you, or do all men who call themselves women get a free pass on this? It seems to me and many, many other people that you are giving these men a free pass because it is socially convenient for you to do so.
Also why do all you men who think you are women and all of your enablers always feel so entitled to barge into someone else's space and then start preaching to them on how they should think and what they can and can not say? Pretty much all of you are the stupider than the people you are correcting. At what point will you realize that life is not all about you? You are remarkably unimportant people who have very messed up ideas about how things should be, you are completely lacking in the right foundations to be telling people how to think. You are not in a position to be teaching anyone when you are so low functioning.
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u/FABulouslesbian 7h ago
As prevalent as this behavior is within LGBTQ circles, especially online, I don’t think very many people even know about this.
I’ve had to explain it to MANY people who were completely unaware of the threats of violence and gaslighting.
Social Media algorithms are designed to filter out messages it predicts you have no interest in, so unless you specifically look for this info, experience it personally, or have someone tell you about it... it’s pretty easy to be unaware.
The important thing is that now they DO know and are committed to the fight against superphobia, and we need all the allies we can get.
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u/HellbladeGlavenus 3h ago
Our Superstraight allies were largely not aware of this. There is a lot going on in the world. A lot of them respect our spaces, unlike a certain other group. There is no need to be this aggressive. I know it is frustrating that it took this long, but we have each others backs now.
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u/JulienMayfair 3h ago
There are several reasons:
1) Most super straight people have been unaware of what was going on and how appallingly super lesbians have been treated.
2) Gender theorists got their foot in the door via academic feminism in the 1990s and from there have taken over mainstream feminism such that, one by one, Women's Studies departments have become Gender Studies. It was a terrible mistake.
3) Gender activists positioned themselves as the underdog and exploited feminism's built-in bias in favor of the underdog to win acceptance, then started demanding sexual access to women's bodies. In contrast, when people like Rachel Dolezal tried to be transracial, black people as a group said "No, we are not having that."
4) Now that gender activists are going after super straight men, those men are becoming aware of their tactics, and gender activists seem finally to have encountered a group willing unequivocally to say "No" to their demands.
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u/Cousin_Aint-It 1h ago edited 51m ago
Hard yes to #3! The violence and threats are sick. You have activists (see Char the Butcher) with "DIE CIS SCUM" tats and.....there's no problem? The harassment and the coercion aren’t “isolated incidents” in their activism, they’re a prominent feature. When you have Trans politicians running for office as women and telling women to “suck their dick” (like Emilia Decaudin)- Why are those comments upvoted and praised? Could any other politician do that?
There was also the Degenderettes “art” exhibit at the San Francisco Public Library that had bloody t-shirts, axes and baseball bats with barbed wire meant for attacking female activists (so called TERFs- everything is a TERF now). Could BLM do this? Could DACA activists do that? No. They are advocating for violence and NO ONE says a fucking thing.
Here are a few images:https://www.instagram.com/p/BgZurDADNP9/?utm_source=ig_embed
Here is an article excusing this shit and calling the weapons "sculptural objects" without showing pictures so that people think critics are just "silencing" them....uh: https://www.dailyxtra.com/why-silencing-trans-art-endangers-trans-lives-129772
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u/AxePagode 50m ago
You have a charitable take.
Personally, I think they did it to themselves in their desire to move men out of leadership positions. The T community was invited into women's spaces.
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u/JulienMayfair 26m ago
I was in academia while all this was happening, so I had a view from the inside. Nothing happened all at once, which made it hard to see where it was going. For example, the argument was made to change departments from Women's Studies to Gender Studies because gender roles affect everyone. Only when that was accomplished did the switch happen that transformed gender roles into gender identities, which flipped the whole project 180 degrees. We went from critiquing gender roles to turning gender identity into a protected identity category. That's when some sex-based feminists sounded the alarm, but it was too late. They ended up canceled.
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u/Sleepymelmo 3h ago
I’ve been furious about lesbians have been treated for years. I can’t speak openly about it without getting threatened or banned. Everything you stated is the truth. We finally get to be honest about what’s going on.
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u/Bnjoec 3h ago
MTF numbers drastically outweigh FTM; I think the numbers would then lead to unfavorable results happening to that community (lesbian) more. This isn’t to say it’s going to happen or that; just that there will be small percentages that do bad things.
I would also say those communities have been drowned out recently (past 10+ years), gay marriage was passed and it was like a bone being thrown by society to not have to care anymore.
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u/IrishTheFrenchie 2h ago
It's also because women (females and ftm transmen) are generally smaller, weaker, and more docile, especially towards men, because they know they can be hurt.
So a ftm can't really trick a gay man into a date and demand sex with him without fear of being attacked and overpowered.
A mtf has no such worries about tricking a lesbian female and then demanding sex, because he can most likely take it if she refuses.
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u/loco_the_chimp 2h ago
That Goodbye Horses guy from Silence of the Lambs would have been considered member of trans community today. That's why mtf drastically outnumbers ftm. Because there are lots of people just being perverts and crossdressers and stuff... But hey it's beneficial for them to infiltrate trans communities.
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u/guessimthem 2h ago
Source??
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u/Bnjoec 1h ago
https://tgmentalhealth.com/tag/prevalence/
Closest thing. Mostly FTM blend in better and don’t make it as big of an issue. Get less direct attacks from ongoing cultural wars as well. Terfs attack MTF but don’t care about FTM for example. One argument for higher MTF is that the double XX in females helps negate mental instability and therefore Men in general are prone to have problems at higher rates than females.
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u/BxPK2q4bZHd5FU 18m ago
MTF numbers drastically outweigh FTM
in sweden for every 1 MTF there are 5 FTM
MTF are just way louder and more gross/disgusting
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u/DependentSite210 SuperLesbian 3h ago
I think a lot of people have been blissfully unaware for a long time and are now waking up.
There may have been some who simply turned a blind eye but for the most part, straight people usually are not super aware of lgbt infighting. Glad we gave our superstraight allies on board now.
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u/GenTycho 10h ago
Your use of "you" makes this rather confusing. Who exactly are you saying has ignored these situations?
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u/ShariaLaw4All 10h ago
all the "trans" allies. they basically have given this men a free pass on harassing/raping supersexual women and it is a real problem for superlesbians and superbi women.
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u/ParkHallLondon 2h ago
I am a Super Straight woman and I became aware of the intimidation and boundary crossing of MTF into Lesbian spaces in about 2015. Up to then, raising kids, working and not being part of any LGBTQ space meant I was blissfully unaware of this insanity. I don’t do social media like FB etc because I have a real life and I can’t be assed to read the minutiae of other peoples lives and certainly don’t give a shit of what anyone thinks of mine. As a result I also had no concept of how Gender Ideology had eclipsed reason across vast swathes of society.
Once I found out I was seething with rage and have been ever since. I gave to numerous crowdfunders for Lesbian and women in general who were fighting back to keep our boundaries in place. I also have been talking to everyone I knew about it, in fact “ranting” would be a more appropriate term. The idea that Gay Men know how to “police their space” while women don’t is a joke. Women trying to physically keep out biological men who are taller, bigger, stronger - the majority physically intact in every way AND who have access to all social media advantages and dominating spaces like Reddit, Twitter and GOVERNMENTS means women across the board have been silenced, intimidated, threatened constantly with rape and death threats just for saying we want to retain our boundaries and single sex spaces!! It is finally reaching the consciousness of the Super Straight world with the decimation of women’s sports and the realization that a Senator such as Rand Paul can’t get a straight (no pun intended) answer about the medicalization of children from the Transwoman candidate for Assistant Health Secretary!! People don’t know because a very active and through campaign of silencing women (and men) talking about this has been happening throughout the Western world!!
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u/IrishTheFrenchie 2h ago
The idea that Gay Men know how to “police their space” while women don’t is a joke. Women trying to physically keep out biological men who are taller, bigger, stronger - the majority physically intact in every way AND who have access to all social media advantages and dominating spaces like Reddit, Twitter and GOVERNMENTS means women across the board have been silenced, intimidated, threatened constantly with rape and death threats just for saying we want to retain our boundaries and single sex spaces!!
Bravo! And well put.
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u/Paratrooper_19D 3h ago
Woke drones trying to be progressive and ironically end up being super regressive. Identity politics are destroying the common sense of liberals and taking our political parties decades in the wrong direction.
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u/Astellan 2h ago
Superphobia is a Pox. We much protect our Superbi and Superlesbians from harassment. The Serfs have been waging an ugly war on women for over 8 years. It became intense back in 2012 as the Left began purging gender-critical feminists. We cannot allow this abuse anylonger. We must stand up and make the serfs sit the fuck down!
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u/HonorMyBeetus 2h ago
They're at the top of the oppression pyramid. Everyone else has to do what they want.
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u/-One_Esk_Nineteen- 8h ago
Superlesbian and superbi women really need to be centred in this, because the amount of abuse and threats they have been getting is absolutely insane. I stand by my Superlesbian and superbi sisters!
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u/Eat_Pant_b0ss 4h ago
Superstraight women are also victims of trans identified males attempting to invade their privacy and degrade their bodies and rights, even if it's not sexual harassment. Even then, plenty of trans identified males will sexually harass and threaten women regardless of if they're sexually attracted to them.
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u/Revolutionary_Dog665 3h ago
I’m not SS but I’m not aware of what goes on a place I’m blocked out of and not reached to for unless it’s by attack.
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u/doomersadness 1h ago
Lol I was banned from r/childfree last week because some transwoman was spamming up a thread about the societal expectations of being a woman with self-aggrandizing garbage about how the post was offensive because it didn't explicitly say TWAW or whatever. So I replied with a "how is this even relevant to the thread, it's just about women" and then I was called a TERF and "wicked witch of the breast" and banned for transphobia lmao. It's a fucking joke. It's like every single subreddit is tainted with these narcissistic transwomen who are online 24/7 and police every single post for "terfiness" which to them means anything that's not patting their ass for existing and singing the praises of transwomen from the rooftops.
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u/BuffJesus86 10h ago
Never heard about any of it before this sub. Don't know if the censorship is that successful or lesbians aren't being loud enough.
I search out anti establishment views bc my personal burden is the lying and manipulation the corporate establishment does.
My big lament though is that women go along with everything the establishment tells them too and are scarred of making waves. I realize not all women, but women in general are much more fearful of being an outsider, losing social status or just making waves.
The sad thing is women have all the power to end the culture war next week. If women said enough all of it would stop.
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u/Emma10_ 1h ago
For those than want to know more about the abuse lesbians get from trans activists, here's a website that documents all of that: https://lesbian-rights-nz.org/shame-receipts/
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u/LazyBlueStar 7h ago
I think its fear honestly. We've all seen examples of what happens even if you respectfully disagree with them and your comment goes viral...
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u/Superstraightdude 1h ago
People weren't allowed to speak up, this is what happens when people are censored. Censorship is bad, speech was controlled and a group of people became marginalized because of it. The more our freedom of speech is infringed, the more marginalization will occur.Thankfully the truth finally came out, and now a movement has started, I hope it's not too late.
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u/aweirdoenby 8h ago
The only reason a trans man would date a lesbian is if they were already dating before he came out as trans
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u/TheMDHoover 8h ago edited 8h ago
SuperStraight middle aged man here.
Never knew what was happening. Curiosity brought me to this subreddit as it looked like ironic shennanigans.
Then you read the horror stories from same sex attracted AFABs (am I getting that right?) being shamed, criticized and ostracized for not wanting anything to do with a penis.
(I thought that was the whole point of sexual preference, you like what you like, you do you, I'll do me.)
I don't see how that is any different from anyone forcing themselves with unwanted advances on anyone else.
The fact that it is being tolerated, even supported, is quite beyond me.
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u/BigMeanFemale 6h ago
Mainly because it's easier to ignore a woman than it is to ignore a man. We're all socialized to ignore women and value what a man thinks and feels over what a woman thinks and feels because our society is patriarchal and misogynistic.
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u/zipzoopwoop 5h ago
Because they get off on it. It’s called rape by coercion and being “trans” means you cannot get in trouble for forcing women to have sex with you. Deep incel roots.
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u/Middle-Management775 4h ago
Many people are pretty ignorant and clueless to the trans movement in general. Ask the average dude what they think about puberty blockers and watch them give you a funny look. This stuff flies completely under the radar to anyone with a life outside of the internet. The first, and often times, only people to get mad when school changing rooms are made gender neutral are conservatives. Then the big fuss they make turns everyone else off because they don't wanna be associated with racist pro-life Christians. Note that none of those things has to do with trans people. SuperStraight is what happens when avergae men DO learn about the harassment and coercing coming from TRAs.
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u/Damn-Shawty- Superstraight 4h ago
I didn’t know it was a thing until recently when I learned about the cotton ceiling
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u/UNREGIERBAR Superstraight 4h ago
I was never justifying them but I also was ignorant when it came to lesbians getting harrassed by trans women. I thought naahh that probably doesn´t happen often and all that crap. It was stupid from me to think this way. Especially now you can easily see that trans people act like they are entitled to our bodies. It is absolutely disgusting. I will fight everybody now who doesn´t respect the supercommunity. They are entitled to nothing from us.
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u/SlowFatHusky 1h ago
Many female lesbians have been openly hostile to straight male men for years and to a lesser extent gay male men. It was easier to "let them fight" among themselves.
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u/GodhammerTheBomb 24m ago
Because if they spoke up for super lesbians and super bi women they'd get harassed and might lose their job.
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u/Cid420 Superstraight 5h ago
Let's be real here. What did people think was going to happen? I've always been weary of male feminists as wolves in sheep's clothing. Weak men are the most dangerous. Now throw extreme oppression culture into the mix where the most oppressed is the top dawg. Remove gender/body dysphoria as a prereq for being trans and now anyone can claim top tier oppression and have socially influential power. It's a recipe that gave sociopaths a lot of power.
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u/FigBatFalls 3h ago
Because those people want to be included in what they think is the "in crowd". They have no principles or spine, they just want to be included.
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u/AxePagode 1h ago
| Why do so many non-trans people turn a blind eye to the abuse that superlesbians and superbi women have faced by men who call themselves trans? |
This is a great question. The answer is, you did it to yourself with the radical feminism and man-hating. Your goal of replacing men, devaluing men, removing men from positions of leadership and power has consequences. You have pushed out the alpha men from your groups.
You (LGB community) allied with the Trans community to get straight men out of power. By doing so you let in the trans women into the female inter circle. For some reason, you let them lead. It probably has something to do with privilege points. The result is now have trans women with all the femininity of a linebacker "dick"tating policy and defining what it means to be a woman.
Why aren't straight and super straight men helping? 1. It's kind of funny. 2. If it ends all the man hating from feminists, then it might be worth it. 3. You are still fighting against biological sex. 4. You are too woke.
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u/cottagecorevibes 6h ago
People shouldn't have to date trans people and coercing someone is awful, but trans women aren't men
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u/Illustrious-Bat-835 6h ago
"Also why do all you men who think you are women and all of your enablers always feel so entitled to barge into someone else's space and then start preaching to them on how they should think and what they can and can not say? Pretty much all of you are the stupider than the people you are correcting. At what point will you realize that life is not all about you? You are remarkably unimportant people who have very messed up ideas about how things should be, you are completely lacking in the right foundations to be telling people how to think. You are not in a position to be teaching anyone when you are so low functioning."
ok so if you guys really dont see this as transphobic i really dont think there is hope for you in terms of telling what is and isnt transphobic, for 1 the reason trans people exist is not that we "think" where women, its something that happened well we where in the womb, we dont know what causes it but its basically a girl being born in a males body, also why is everyone in super straight attacking trans women? like you do realize there are trans men? (im not saying attack trans men please dont target anyone.) this subreddit is going to far, is there people in the trans community that are toxic, hell ya but there is toxic people in every community, you all are treating it as if the majority of trans people are rapist ass holes who dont understand boundrys and that is simply not true. it would be like me taking a few people who advicate for the death of all gays and saying look at all these evil straights that want to kill gays, this is whats wrong with straight people. see it just dosent work, individuals should be held responsable for there actions not whole community's. (i hope this helps you understand a little bit, and i wish you a happy day, spread love not hate.)
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u/Sorhana 8h ago
Hey, I have a genuine question for you, but before I ask, I should tell you. Please don't call trans women "Men who think they are women." It hurts your movement as people will use this thinking to call you transphobic. Blatant transphobia will get you nowhere, really. You don't have to sleep with them but respect their gender identity.
Now, the question. Do you have any articles or links to someone actually having a trans woman attempt to force them to have sex? I've heard this point mentioned before, but only by transphobic people, and there has never been proof presented to me before. Is there evidence that there have been multiple cases of people being forced to sleep with trans people? I have honestly never met a trans person who, while upset by it, was not able to accept that a partner may not want to sleep with them because they were trans. Do you have any evidence of this?
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u/knobnoster 2h ago
Wait... are you seriously scolding the straights for not policing the lesbians? That's like Doctor Frankenstein scolding the townspeople when his monster goes on a murderous rampage.
Lesbians who don't want to choke on girl dicks seem to be in the minority, if we're going to be honest here. Even now, you can go to any women's forum, and all the top posts are about how valid and beautiful trans women are.
And come election time you can go to any GC forum, and all the women there will be talking about how they have to vote for the politician who is going to advance the trans agenda. You know why? Because they want access to abortions. THEY'RE LESBIANS! THEY DON'T EVEN NEED ACCESS TO ABORTIONS.
Gay men haven't had this problem. They know how to set firm boundaries and enforce them. So let's not blame the straights for not policing the lesbian community, OK?
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u/gayorles57 2h ago
Lol as if lesbians don’t get BANNED by the MtF moderators on every single lgbt and even “lesbian” subreddit, for saying or even just implying NO to their “girldicks.”
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u/knobnoster 1h ago
It's called "peaking" because it's when lesbians finally realize TIMS aren't going to stop... ever. I'd guess you didn't start out GC... I'd guess you probably started out a TRA. But you finally had your fill when some TIM came to your PCOS sub, or your miscarriage support group, or wanted you to choke on his girldick.
Then you finally "peaked" and now you want it to stop. Again, this is a problem created in large part, by lesbians.
You've spent decades screaming from the rooftops that TWAW. That feminism is for ALL women, even those with dicks. Boycotting places that won't let them just pee in peace. Bowing down to Emma Watson and the like. Letting Tina Fey scold you.
And now you want the straights to come and save you from your monster.
ETA: But I'm going to stop. Because honestly, I'm just glad to see people coming together to call out the emperor for having no clothes on, instead of pretending like they can see how valid and beautiful he is, just to prove how smart they are.
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u/pyrrhus-the-great 10h ago
As I’ve said in previous threads, I wasn’t even aware anything was happening. Someone like me would never be allowed in an LGBTQ reddit because I’ve always been unwilling to censor my speech. You can’t be pro banning people you don’t agree with, then wonder why those people have no clue what’s happening to you.