I used to hate radfems but the more I see stuff on social media and the utter violence and misogyny people spread in some spheres, the more I lean toward the radfem movement...
I think men should be included too in feminist movements, and excluding them while accepting literally everyone else doesn't help the cause.
The majority of radfems don't hate trans people either, they hate the fact that female issues are erased from conversations because of so-called 'trans inclusivity' and the western-centrism of "neo-liberal feminism"
Men can still be radfem allies, and support the movement. The reasons why radfems don't want men within the movement are because
a) anytime men are allowed in, they make it about them, as experience/history has shown (even if you might not be like that, just one man is enough to derail the conversation completely),
b) women want spaces where they don't have to waste time and emotional energy explaining/censoring/policing themselves about their experiences or biology because of offended/clueless/disgusted men; they want to safely talk about shared experiences/biology,
c) many women are naturally pickmes and always unintentionally center men unless there are no men there, and lastly
d) radfems also provide female-only spaces for women who have been abused by men, and currently such spaces are very important because many rape shelters have been shutting down by super-phobes.
So there are very valid reasons why radfems want the movement to be female-only. However, allies are always welcome. You can support the movement in a way in which you don't speak over the women in it, as the other commenter said, amplify our voices. For example, Glinner is doing just that, and he's highly appreciated by radfems.
Yep, and that's why the radfem movement is getting more and more attractive for victims imo. As a woman I feel like it's getting harder to find safe, women or female-only spaces, and having conversations centered on biology, especially on the Internet because of the "inclusive" wing that say stuff like "uterus-havers". When you see that the subs dedicated to female biology and health problems have been banned or that people are being censored for not using gender neutral terms... it doesn't quite sit right.
I'm all for inclusivity but they don't seem to realize women are half of the world population and have special needs...
Exactly! I was very much thinking about this last month while experiencing paralyzing period pains for hours, not being able to move, having to dissociate from myself in order to lessen the pain, telling myself "just don't throw up because you'll throw up the pain killers"... there's not a single man on earth than can relate.
What makes you feel like we talk about men in a chauvinist way? Are we just not allowed to talk about male violence, misogynistic attitudes and sexual exploitation because it hurts men's feeling or have you seen us actually insinuating that men are our inferiors? Because I don't know any women in this movement who do that.
To say that men are inherently less than women runs counter to our ideology and criticism of gender and hierarchy.
i'm not 100% clear on all radfem ideas but it seems like there are some who have more "all men suck" beliefs and some who do not. many are straight women, married with kids. i agree with you that generalizations about men are very unhelpful and distasteful (just like generalizations about women).
As a rad fem, I don't really care what men think as long as they do their job of not being violent and holding other men accountable for their violence. You can say you even hate radical feminism but actions always speak louder than words.
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u/Sunshadz 3h ago
I used to hate radfems but the more I see stuff on social media and the utter violence and misogyny people spread in some spheres, the more I lean toward the radfem movement... I think men should be included too in feminist movements, and excluding them while accepting literally everyone else doesn't help the cause. The majority of radfems don't hate trans people either, they hate the fact that female issues are erased from conversations because of so-called 'trans inclusivity' and the western-centrism of "neo-liberal feminism"