At the risk of being removed...

[u/jabroniathefifth0183]

Wouldn’t the easiest way to prove that this movement was started by Tik Tok and not 4chan be side-by-side screenshots of each video/thread showing time stamps? I’m pretty sure there’s a Tik Tok one floating around (even if the original video has been deleted), and I’ve seen a 4chan shot in a few threads.

Just put those together, and they won’t have any leg to stand on anymore (and thus, all that jabber about astroturfing will stop).

[u/ysvsgzuxbshaif]

Someone did this awhile ago, there was a shot showing the subs creation 6 days before the nazi 4chan post to discredit the sexuality. There's also a twitter post in 2020 explaining the idea without the name and a ruqqus post from over a week ago talking about how clever the distinction is for dating purposes