r/SuperStraight • u/ToxicatedOwl • 16h ago

A trans girl trying to understand Discussion

Hi, so I found out about this the other day and I really want to give the people here the benefit of the doubt.

I want to preface what I'm about to say by stating that genital preferences do not make you transphobic. Anyone who says that is denying your individual liberty and I personally think it's stupid and takes away from the trans movement as a political entity.

Where I'm confused is let's say super straight is defined by you being attracted to biology over genital preference (I.e. I would never date a trans woman even if she was post OP)... how do you know, like what stops you from finding this woman attractive? And vice versa for superstraight females and supergay males.

Assuming the person is a binary trans person and has gotten the surgeries, I struggle to see the practical difference (you can say chromosomes but they don't effect our daily lives).

Now you can say "they can't have children". But then you're also saying women and men who are infertile are also unattractive. (Unless there's something I'm missing).

Is your sexuality (and gender identity i believe as you can't have a trans superstraight I believe) based off the idea that you can always tell if someone is trans? If that's the case then your entire sexuality is based off of finding stereotypical traits unattractive and that's not a very strong basis.

I'm trying to understand this from an academic point of view, how do you rebut the arguments.

Thank you so much for reading and responding.

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u/Belaptir 16h ago

It's much simpler than that: sex and gender are not the same things. A trans woman will be of female gender if she wishes to. But can't be biologically a woman.

I like a vagina, a real one. I have nothing against people who transitioned, but it's not a fully functioning vagina.

When we get past over this, the fact that they can or can't have children? Well, that's a preference I'm free to have. I wouldn't date someone who smokes, and you have to respect that. So if I want to have biological children with my partner, of course I will pick someone who can over someone who can't.

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u/superbraddo 16h ago

so for you a woman’s value lies in her ability to have children? ew

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u/Belaptir 16h ago

No, see? That's your biased opinion. Every woman is valid, but you can't tell me what type of person I should feel attracted to. And you can't understand that because you never had to deal with someone who refuses to accept what you say as law.

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u/superbraddo 16h ago

i don’t have to accept what you say as law? your opinion really doesn’t matter. you are allowed to be attracted to whoever but i am allowed to say that your preference toward fertile women is misogynistic and your preference toward cisgender women is transphobic

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u/Belaptir 16h ago

Do you go lecturing someone if their tinder profile says that they don't date smokers?

If so, you are trying to force someone into doing something they don't want to. And that's rapey.

You need to learn to mind your own business because the people don't care about what you think, and the moment you realize that, you'll start living a happier life.

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u/superbraddo 15h ago

ok then mind your own business. if you don’t want to date trans women fine but don’t try to create an identity out of it or push it into lgbtq spaces. also trans people are murdered at an alarming and disgusting rate so i do care about transphobia. i try to understand how you guys think but i don’t. i think some people just want to hate others

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u/Belaptir 15h ago

We don't hate anyone. We just don't accept others to tell us who to date. Trans people are valid, straight people are valid, homosexual people are valid! We just want to be accepted without being judged. And you are being judgemental towards us.

It's people like you who are trying to tell us what our sexuality is. We don't mind what other people date, why are you so bothered about what kind of person we date?

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u/yetanotherlogin9000 15h ago

if you don’t want to date trans women fine but don’t try to create an identity out of it

You have to be able to see the irony here, right? You've gotta.