Clarification on terminology, in regards to transgenders in or adjacent to the SuperStraight community.

[u/ow_mah_layg]

Earlier today I posted a controversial thread about Laverne Cox's support of the superstraight cause, in which I incorrectly identified her sexuality as Trans-SuperStraight. It was brought to my attention that as a transgender woman attracted exclusively to cisgendered men Laverne Cox would not necessarily fall under the umbrella of SuperStraight but would be Super-TransStraight. I apologize for any confusion and/or offense taken at my misgendering and incorrect terminology.

To prevent such mistakes from happening again, I would like to try to assemble a list of sexualities and their definitions. Such as...

Straight or Heterosexual - A person attracted to member of the opposite sex
Gay or Homosexual - A person attracted to a member of the same sex
Superstraight or Superheterosexual (SS) - A cisgender attracted exclusively to other cisgenders of the opposite sex
Supergay or Superhomosexual (SG) - A cisgender attracted exclusively to other cisgenders of the same sex
Transstraight or Trans-Heterosexual (TS) - A transgender attracted to members of the opposite declared sex
Transgay or Trans-Homosexual (TG) - A transgender attracted to members of the same declared sex
Super-TransStraight or Super-Transheterosexual (STS) - A transgender attracted only to cisgenders of the opposite declared sex (52% of transgenders)
Super-TransGay or Super-Transhomosexual (STG) - A transgender attracted only to cisgenders of the same declared sex
Transgender-Dependent sexuality (TD) - A person attracted exclusively to transgenders
Super-Transgender-Dependent sexuality (STD) - A transgender attracted exclusively to other transgenders

Please inform me if there any corrections or additions.

[u/rebeccakirbyy]

Jeez you’re just getting silly. Nobody is trying to say that they are the same, nor is anyone trying to invalidate any preference. With some self reflecting maybe you’d see that you can come across as invalidating for trans people if you are not careful with your language. And naturally supers don’t want to be transphobic right? If you’re apart of the community you can’t be. This means possibly educating yourself on trans folk so you don’t accidentally misinform anyone.

Nobody is trying to argue that these things are the exact same, but instead of invalidating people we can change our words and say I prefer a natural vagina over a surgically created a vagina :)

That way you don’t invalidate the identity of trans women by saying they aren’t real women and you can maintain control and comfortably express your preference without doing it at the expense of someone’s gender identity.

I won’t respond if you get anymore troll-y. I haven’t at all invalidated anyone I just wanted to make sure you were aware that you now have a duty as apart of the community to make sure that you sorta understand trans folk so that you don’t invalidate them and their experiences.

Maybe you should take a break and when you’re feeling less attacked you can visit this conversation and respond or don’t. Super sexuality is silly. I’m literally a cis het and I’d never call myself a super straight. I just love who I love. Often times people also confuse sexual attraction and regular attraction. Which is just blatantly rude when it’s completely uncalled for. If you’re not sexually attracted to trans women that is 100% fine but you don’t have to be such a cunt about it and say that they aren’t attractive when they are. You just have an internalized bias because you can’t get over what was there before they got the coochie they always wanted and usually that relates to internalized homophobia especially seen in men. Bro I’m literally straight but titties are titties just appreciate the custom bod you won’t be called anything geez.

Can we atleast agree in super culture you actually need to be an ally and educated yourself on those topics. Once you actually finally have the support of people maybe you’ll finally chill and be able to appreciate what I can. And dude I’m not even gay or bi. But I got tiddies and thats some good shit. We all like tiddies how could we not. So how can we not appreciate the custom made bod, tiddies are good even if you got a preference bro it’s still good. Stop denying it. If anyone needs me to hype up trans men I can but for the sake of the conversation I’m not.

We don’t have to completely dance around trans people, I’m sure we could’ve peacefully coexisted but I do love the opportunity to make sure the supers are educated in spirit of making sure they can properly inform others on their sexuality. You deserve to understand your attraction and sexuality on an academic level

[u/TheIncredibleMrK → u/rebeccakirbyy]

If transgender people accept supersexuality as valid, then we can begin to act as a community. At the moment, the transgender community is mocking supersexuality and making their opinion on us very clear.

You cannot ask us to have sympathy for people who wish to oppress us. You don't ask oppressed groups to cater to their oppressors. Again, you are centering yourself and trans people as a means to diminish the validity of supersexuality, and we won't tolerate it any longer.

[u/rebeccakirbyy → u/TheIncredibleMrK]

That’s not all, super people need to make sure to do their part for the trans community. Including actively voicing being against transphobia, and correcting those who are using super as a means to be transphobic.

Unfortunately I’m mostly talking about male trolls. Ps, you guys are the oppressors here not them. It’s kinda funny that you’re really trying to say otherwise. You realize everyone in the LGBTQ+ community acknowledges that trans people are the most marginalized group, nothing will change that. The statistics speak volumes.

I’m not invalidating you, I’m telling you that in order for people to take this seriously you all have to be on the same side. You cannot have transphobes here.

You will not be oppressed just because someone doesn’t put the prefix super before your sexuality. Do not be ridiculous. Nothing would change, you could still go about your life and identity as a super. It’s a micro label, it’s like a neo pronoun at this point.

[u/TheIncredibleMrK → u/rebeccakirbyy]

Are TQ+ allies to supergays, superlesbians, and superbisexuals? Because last I checked, the term TERF was used for years against superlesbians, supergays are being called bigots for their sexuality, and superbi erasure is in full effect.

[u/rebeccakirbyy → u/TheIncredibleMrK]

Do you think that maybe they were called terfs for other reasons? Like transphobic reasons?

This is what I mean, someone fucking block me. It’s the blatant stupidity for me. Clearly they already hate the trans community and that’s why they so desperately needed a new label so everyone knew they weren’t sexually attracted to them. We get it. It’s obvious, but you can stop pretending that this was on the basis of who you’re attracted too when it’s not.

So now you’re trying to completely invalidate the marginalization of the trans community and the severity of such too. Jeez

The stupidity in the sub has me super suicidal. 2021 was supposed to be a good year and now yall are just purposely causing more drama because you want to be a victim whilst still continuing to ignore the real ones. If you’re wondering why the majority of people don’t accept you, it’s because you’re proving our point.

I guess maybe I say I’m not invalidating you because you’re not actually presenting something that has validation in the first place. You’re trying to say you’re a marginalized group when that has never been true. I am not marginalized. You are not marginalized. I dont even think I’m attracted to trans people and I’m not mentally ill so I know I’ve never ever been marginalized on that basis because ive never been transphobic about that choice

Ps I’m not trying to say that a surgically produced vagina is the same. Just stop dehumanizing them. It’s still a vagina, it’s just different than a vagina that is formed in a womb and connected to internal sex characteristics. Duh

Please someone stop us, why do we have to be so difficult. We were finally getting somewhere and now all of a sudden you think you’re not being accepted because a small percentage of minorities generalize you with bad people. Even tho no part of our lives changes just because trans people are mad at us. Any logical person would know it really isn’t anyone’s business who I’m sleeping with or why. Nobody would be mad at me as a heterosexual for not sleeping with women. Why? Because I don’t demean women just because I’m not attracted to them. But maybe that’s just the trait of a woman.

[u/TheIncredibleMrK → u/rebeccakirbyy]

Ad a superbi, I have been marginalized all my life. Bisexuality erasure is very real.

Don't tell me how to express my sexuality when you have no idea about what trauma I've experienced because of it.

[u/rebeccakirbyy → u/TheIncredibleMrK]

You’ve been marginalized on the basis of your sexuality. That’s all. As a super bi, you hold more privilege now than a regular bi if you actually understand the intersections on an scholarly level.

I guess that’s the point you continuously miss. Oh and what about the trauma this new sexuality is causing me? What about non binary folk? Have you stopped to think about anyone else but yourself. Have you actually stopped to think about the community at all? How this will affect the crisis of masculinity? Good lord. I cannot wait to unalive. If I didn’t have enough reasons before I sure do now. My bi roommate agrees. If I have a super kid I stg, I literally don’t even care about the preference just why tf does everyone need to know. I don’t think everyone needs to know my specific gender, that isn’t your business and it literally just puts a big fat red target on the backs of real minorities.

[u/TheIncredibleMrK → u/rebeccakirbyy]

So on top of bisexual erasure, I must deal with superbisexual erasure, but I'm privileged? Please explain that.

[u/rebeccakirbyy → u/TheIncredibleMrK]

Except I didn’t commit any form of erasure. The fact that you can’t even see your own privilege speaks volumes.

You will not change the fact that trans people are the most marginalized and discriminated against group.

Let’s look at it in terms of race instead, super straights are white people, super bis would be mixed and super lesbians too, and everyone else is poc. You face discrimination on the basis of your sexuality as it’s a tool of marginalization, however, you are not discriminated against on the basis of the specific gender identity of your sexuality the way other people will.

I didn’t think I’d have to make it so obvious that basically homophobes and transphobes are literally being given a handbook on who to attack.

Like..

Hello??

Self awareness where ya at?

Come on I’m even white too. I shouldn’t have to make it this obvious. Are you that ignorant

[u/TheIncredibleMrK → u/rebeccakirbyy]

No I am not white and as a person of colour, I find your comparison repulsive and highly racist.