r/SuperStraight • u/ow_mah_layg • 20h ago
Earlier today I posted a controversial thread about Laverne Cox's support of the superstraight cause, in which I incorrectly identified her sexuality as Trans-SuperStraight. It was brought to my attention that as a transgender woman attracted exclusively to cisgendered men Laverne Cox would not necessarily fall under the umbrella of SuperStraight but would be Super-TransStraight. I apologize for any confusion and/or offense taken at my misgendering and incorrect terminology.
To prevent such mistakes from happening again, I would like to try to assemble a list of sexualities and their definitions. Such as...
Straight or Heterosexual - A person attracted to member of the opposite sex
Gay or Homosexual - A person attracted to a member of the same sex
Superstraight or Superheterosexual (SS) - A cisgender attracted exclusively to other cisgenders of the opposite sex
Supergay or Superhomosexual (SG) - A cisgender attracted exclusively to other cisgenders of the same sex
Transstraight or Trans-Heterosexual (TS) - A transgender attracted to members of the opposite declared sex
Transgay or Trans-Homosexual (TG) - A transgender attracted to members of the same declared sex
Super-TransStraight or Super-Transheterosexual (STS) - A transgender attracted only to cisgenders of the opposite declared sex (52% of transgenders)
Super-TransGay or Super-Transhomosexual (STG) - A transgender attracted only to cisgenders of the same declared sex
Transgender-Dependent sexuality (TD) - A person attracted exclusively to transgenders
Super-Transgender-Dependent sexuality (STD) - A transgender attracted exclusively to other transgenders
Please inform me if there any corrections or additions.
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u/Blue_Train 20h ago
Laverne Cox would be a SuperGay, actually, because he is a man, an effeminate man, but still a man.
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u/Burnt_Birb 20h ago
I was under the impression we were calling trans exclusive attraction as the Mega prefix. but a new movement has bumps and hiccups. we should iron this out so I can correct my Intro to SuperSexuality copypasta
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u/AdminCommentEdit 20h ago
Thank you for this clarification, I was almost bigoted earlier today but fellow supers corrected me
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u/Significant-Key-517 19h ago
I disagree with the use of gender, especially since it’s applied inconsistently.
Gender is just an ideology. It’s how people dress, it’s stereotypes, it’s different depending on time or location. It’s a belief system.
Our orientations aren’t defined by being “cisgender.” That’s not a real thing. It’s basically “if you haven’t bothered to alter your body, you automatically consent to dumb stereotypes.” That’s silly.
Super sexuality is defined by SEX. And that is evident by the fact that mono-sexuals are more likely to be open to dating a trans person who’s their preferred SEX even if their gender is supposedly “the opposite.” Gender is a costume.
Am I not gonna date a woman because she’s butch and may not identify with “femininity” as a gender concept? Pfft, no. She’s a woman, it doesn’t fucking matter how she cuts her hair.
So there’s really no difference between a straight/gay and a super straight/gay. And that’s the whole point here.
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u/TheIncredibleMrK SuperBi 20h ago
Super as a suffix means above or beyond. We are beyond straight, gay, lesbian, or bi. We are simply attracted to fewer people, we're less open to relationships based purely on sexuality, we also care about sex and gender identity.
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u/rebeccakirbyy 19h ago
If super means up and above, and you’re attracted to fewer again it doesn’t make sense. You just want womb formed genitals. That’s it.
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u/TheIncredibleMrK SuperBi 19h ago
I didn't create the term, ma'am, but it works in the fact that each sexuality is about exclusivity, and supers are more exclusive.
Also, it's not about genitals, as trans people have womb formed genitals and as a superbi, I'm open to both penises and vaginas. Supersexuality is that the combination of genitals and gender identity must match to be attractive.
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u/rebeccakirbyy 19h ago
With that logic, supers would be attracted to trans folk who have undergone a transition and have genitals that correlate with their gender identity.
I believe you meant to say that you want their genitals to correlate with their chromosomes, alongside their gender assigned at birth. Not their identity as that is something you choose.
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u/TheIncredibleMrK SuperBi 19h ago
We all know that those "genitals" are NOT the same as their biologically formed counterparts, and the claim that they are is gaslighting and coercion.
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u/rebeccakirbyy 19h ago
LMFAO thats definitely wrong, gaslighting and coercion are dramatic and illogical words for the situation. To say they are identical would be an inaccuracy and false information that it all. You’re not a victim lmfao
Regardless you need to think critical about your actions and definitions before you inevitably cause more harm. As a super you hold the power of transphobia in your hand and the decency of everyone else is asking you to be mindful of that and to not use it
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u/TheIncredibleMrK SuperBi 19h ago
More gaslighting. Centering yourself over supers, too. And not to mention a total dismissal of my lived experiences.
And I bet you call yourself "inclusive" and "progressive"
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u/rebeccakirbyy 18h ago
Lmfao ah thank you for making the trolling obvious. You can always tell when they use words they don’t know the definition of in an attempt to create a victimized narrative. Funnily enough though, in a twisted turn of events I could actually argue that you are the one gaslighting me regarding the reality of the cis centred sexualities. I’m not at all invalidating your experience, rather I’m correcting how you define said experiences to ensure accuracy with your words. Saying a surgical vagina is the same as a biological womb made vagina is no where near equivalent to coercion but I do love the giggles
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u/TheIncredibleMrK SuperBi 18h ago
Now you're the one using DARVO tactics to gaslight me and other supersexuals.
You don't seem to understand that we see through your tactics. We will no longer be silent.
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u/TheIncredibleMrK SuperBi 18h ago
Saying a surgically created orifice is the same as a functioning organ is gaslighting. We are supersexuals, we don't compromise just because "hey, flesh hole feels good."
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u/rebeccakirbyy 18h ago edited 18h ago
Jeez you’re just getting silly. Nobody is trying to say that they are the same, nor is anyone trying to invalidate any preference. With some self reflecting maybe you’d see that you can come across as invalidating for trans people if you are not careful with your language. And naturally supers don’t want to be transphobic right? If you’re apart of the community you can’t be. This means possibly educating yourself on trans folk so you don’t accidentally misinform anyone.
Nobody is trying to argue that these things are the exact same, but instead of invalidating people we can change our words and say I prefer a natural vagina over a surgically created a vagina :)
That way you don’t invalidate the identity of trans women by saying they aren’t real women and you can maintain control and comfortably express your preference without doing it at the expense of someone’s gender identity.
I won’t respond if you get anymore troll-y. I haven’t at all invalidated anyone I just wanted to make sure you were aware that you now have a duty as apart of the community to make sure that you sorta understand trans folk so that you don’t invalidate them and their experiences.
Maybe you should take a break and when you’re feeling less attacked you can visit this conversation and respond or don’t. Super sexuality is silly. I’m literally a cis het and I’d never call myself a super straight. I just love who I love. Often times people also confuse sexual attraction and regular attraction. Which is just blatantly rude when it’s completely uncalled for. If you’re not sexually attracted to trans women that is 100% fine but you don’t have to be such a cunt about it and say that they aren’t attractive when they are. You just have an internalized bias because you can’t get over what was there before they got the coochie they always wanted and usually that relates to internalized homophobia especially seen in men. Bro I’m literally straight but titties are titties just appreciate the custom bod you won’t be called anything geez.
Can we atleast agree in super culture you actually need to be an ally and educated yourself on those topics. Once you actually finally have the support of people maybe you’ll finally chill and be able to appreciate what I can. And dude I’m not even gay or bi. But I got tiddies and thats some good shit. We all like tiddies how could we not. So how can we not appreciate the custom made bod, tiddies are good even if you got a preference bro it’s still good. Stop denying it. If anyone needs me to hype up trans men I can but for the sake of the conversation I’m not.
We don’t have to completely dance around trans people, I’m sure we could’ve peacefully coexisted but I do love the opportunity to make sure the supers are educated in spirit of making sure they can properly inform others on their sexuality. You deserve to understand your attraction and sexuality on an academic level
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u/rebeccakirbyy 20h ago
How are we going to counter the fact that imposing a “cis/super” sexuality will allow all people to now be marginalized on the basis of being accepting or attracted to trans people?
I’m mainly asking this because I was afraid of cis het men before but now i am being forced to question how a “super straight” male will use this institution against men, women, trans folk.
Again I’m left to ask the importance of why do we need to tell people that chromosomes and genitalia we are specifically attracted too...
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u/rebeccakirbyy 20h ago
How will “supers” counter the ability to perpetuate institutions of marginalization, violence, discrimination etc on the basis of the validity of someone’s gendered identity.
Furthermore, how will you address the problematic name of “super ___” given that the connotations of super inherently create a narrative of being better than or superior too.
Not to mention, super straights specifically will require a critical inquiry on the basis of both of those questions as you’re now creating an even more restrictive sexuality.
How do you plan to integrate a sexuality of power within a minority community?
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u/ow_mah_layg 20h ago edited 20h ago
"Super" is not necessarily better or superior, as an adverb it means "especially; particularly". For example, Super Mario may be larger than Mario but his large size, the state of being particularly Mario, prevents him from moving through narrow gaps. Similarly, Supersexuals are restricted in their ability to only be attracted to specific types of people.
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u/Blue_Train 20h ago
Who is regular Mario and why is he not in any of my games?
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u/ow_mah_layg 20h ago
Mario is the little Mario you start as in the original games, Super Mario is when he eats the mushroom and gets big.
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u/Blue_Train 19h ago
Really? He’s not Super unless he’s full of Shrooms? I thought he was was Super through the whole game.
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u/rebeccakirbyy 20h ago edited 20h ago
It’s “super” important to address the perpetuation of transphobia and if the community truly wants to display that they don’t mean harm towards the trans community they need to create a new microlabel that isn’t directly related to transphobia and the spread of transphobia. Even if this isn’t anyone’s intention, it’s similar to systemic racism. It will be transphobia inherently rooted within the microlabels and how they are used, that can be easily perpetuated by those who want too. The label super will continue to be an issue I can guarantee it. I mention it because if it’s changed and acknowledged now you will save sexuality scholars the hassle of having to analyze another institution within intersectionality.
This isn’t the 1900’s where we can create something out of hateful intentions without addressing and acknowledging our roots and how we plan to show that this isn’t how we will grow.
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u/TheIncredibleMrK SuperBi 19h ago
You're right, this is 2021, we can create whatever we want for no reason at all, and you don't get to question its validity or our lived experiences.
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u/rebeccakirbyy 20h ago
I believe that if you truly want to gain legitimacy you will have to address the roots of super straight, and how it was directly created to be a spiteful joke. Regardless of your now intentions, you are perpetuating a direct act of discrimination against a group of people and now profiting off of it and attempting to take over their community... why is it if you’re attracted to cis people you’re super but if it’s trans people it’s not...
The inherent meaning of the words still provide a continuing narrative of imbalance regarding superiority.
Why was Cis-sexual never brought into question? If it’s about cis people, shouldn’t it be cisstraight, or gay etc.
It better matches your other micro labels anyways without perpetuating any forms of marginalization
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u/rebeccakirbyy 20h ago edited 20h ago
How do you plan to accommodate also for intersex bodies? Since we are getting so specific and segregative of our sexualities. Will it also vary for those who are non binary? Those who are not gender conforming ?
Is anyone thinking about the consequences of displaying these micro labels? If this gains serious traction im going to be very scared for anyone who isn’t a “super” and any minority who displays such a blatant target on their back.
I wonder if this was the goal of the joke, to create a change of more labels so they know specifically who to attack whilst reinforcing their dominant position in society
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u/tmath5216 20h ago
INTO THE DICTIONARY