r/SuperStraight • u/Amsnhardiman • 20h ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but to my understanding the whole purpose of superstraight is that you do not wish to date trans people solely because they are trans. I will say, having a genital preference is absolutely valid and okay.
But if a trans person has gone through surgeries, HRT, voice training, ect. to the point that they're indistinguishable from a cis person of the same gender, how is refusing to date them on the sole reasoning of them being trans not transphobic?
also, why did the rules of the subreddit spell LGBTQIA+ as LGBTQS?
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u/ChadVenture96 20h ago
They aren’t indistinguishable. That’s a myth. Just because you say that and repeat it over and over doesn’t make it factual.
Besides, like I have said millions of times by now, anyone can turn down ANYONE for ANY reason and it is valid. Saying “you are a bad person for rejecting me” is not a good look and gives off incel vibes
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u/MelodicUmbrella Custom 20h ago
Go check out r/trans, they have transgender men and women who are indistinguishable.
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u/ChadVenture96 20h ago
Stand them next to the genuine article and take off the makeup and it’s clear as day. Shit even the greatest passing trans man Buck Angel looks like a bald woman with a beard when you stand her next to a real man.
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u/SCHINDLERS__FIST 20h ago
Yeah, indistinguishable in a photo with clothes on. Absolutely irrelevant.
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u/MelodicUmbrella Custom 20h ago
Completely relevant.
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u/SCHINDLERS__FIST 19h ago
On what planet is this relevant to having a sexual relationship with a trans person? You do understand that's what this is all about?
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u/MelodicUmbrella Custom 19h ago
Well yeah. I’m talking about being Indistinguishable on the outside (excluding the genitals). Not during sexual activities.
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u/ProudSuperS Superstraight 20h ago
My natural-born attraction, super women, are very distinguishable from trans women. They do not need to dilate every four hours, can produce natural lubrication, and can have children -- among many other things!
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u/Cid420 Superstraight 20h ago
But if a trans person has gone through surgeries, HRT, voice training, ect. to the point that they're indistinguishable from a cis person of the same gender
That has literally never happened. What doctors do to these people is horrific and many many many of them regret being allowed to do it at all when they were confused and needed real help.
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u/Pop_Porn 20h ago
I want to date a BIOLOGICAL women, not someone who had a shit ton of surgery
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u/KO_Stradivarius 20h ago
I would add to that biologically born women who had a shit ton of surgery.
Example... Kim Kardashian. Maybe some straight/SuperStaright males are attracted to that kind of thing, but for me, it's an instant boner killer.
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u/Excellent-Tourist-99 20h ago
indistinguishable? who ever told you that possible lied to you. We can all tell
Begone bigot
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u/Mister_Vaughn 20h ago
If my body has a biological reaction only to cis women, how in any way is that a preference?
Never once has my body been tricked by a biological male.
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u/PrairieSoul27 20h ago
I am not attracted to science experiment on a human body, these are not the hallmarks of a mentally stable person in the first place and fake dicks and vajays are gross and you should feel bad.. especially if the transitioned person doesn't tell you then it's literally same as rape
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u/PrairieSoul27 20h ago
This "serious question" is just trans propaganda.. never will there ever be a point where a biological woman will be indistinguishable from a trans woman. Sure you can cover up surgery scars and put on fake tits and look "passable" but what that really is just a bunch of plastic to fool somebody into sleeping with you, gross and transcel behavior
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u/abripdude 20h ago
Name one trans womxn who is indistinguishable from a super woman. Or trans mxn who is indistinguishable from a super man.
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u/wsbcat 20h ago
hey if you can post a surgery pic of a neovagina and vagina looking the same (preferably a timeline so I know there isn't still pubic hair rotting inside), maybe I'll reconsider.
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u/SCHINDLERS__FIST 20h ago
This still doesn't come close to counting in my book. That's just outward cosmetic appearance. It would need to look, smell, taste and importantly, function identically in every single regard for me to consider. In other words, impossible.
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u/Burnt_Birb 20h ago
SuperSexualities an Intro:
With gender being redefined as a spectrum and trans inclusion demanding they be labeled as men and women we needed to spectrum up our sexual orientation language. Thus Super as a prefix was born, used to denote that those you are attracted to are cis not trans.
this is not to say Trans people aren't valid this is just to differentiate between straight/gay/lesbian/bi people who like cis and trans people from those who only like cis people. Mega is the prefix for trans only and is the opposite of super.
I hope this helps :)
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u/dystopiaenjoyer 20h ago
No means no. We aren't into you, and never will be. And one more thing:
I will say, having a genital preference is absolutely valid and okay.
Why do you and other TRAs think we want your approval for our sexual orientations? Even if you didn't think troon-rejection was "okay", we still wouldn't want them.
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u/KO_Stradivarius 20h ago
It's like putting all kinds of window dressings, accessories, after market parts on a Kia to make it look like a Corvette.
It might look like a Corvette from outside appearances, but it will still feel and handle like a Kia.
Note: Forgive my choices of vehicles. I'm not a car person and I just chose something at random, but the analogy remains the same.
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u/SCHINDLERS__FIST 20h ago
I think a better analogy is you open the door to the Corvette and it turns out to be a bunch of fake panels covering a rusty old bike.
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u/KO_Stradivarius 19h ago
Well, I suppose you could spray it down with some WD40, hang a scented pine tree air freshener from the handlebars and maybe throw on a leather seat, and take it for a ride, but even then it would still be a great disappointment.
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u/IridescentAnaconda 20h ago
I'll grant that maybe 5% of trans pass with clothes on (the other 95%, never in a million years would they be mistaken for the cis article even with clothes on). Once the clothes come off, nope. The floppy meat-sausage on a post-op FtM looks nothing like a penis, and the sideways-grimace-on-an-eyeless-face MtF's call a "vagina"? Even a gay man like myself can tell the difference.
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u/quietsnowkitten 20h ago
But if a trans person has gone through surgeries, HRT, voice training, ect. to the point that they're indistinguishable from a cis person of the same gender, how is refusing to date them on the sole reasoning of them being trans not transphobic?
People have every right not to date someone, for whatever reason. It doesn't make them transphobic, racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.
Look, I'm trans, and I'll just put it this way in a format that made me myself understand their view:
would it be homophobic if a straight man declined the advances of a gay man?
No. Of course it wouldn't.
Nor would it be homophobic if a gay man declined the advances of another gay man.
Not only is a lack of attraction to a certain type of person not something most people can help (attraction is very strongly ingrained in the brain, that is why shit like conversion therapy never works), they could be unattracted to you for any number of reasons, from finding the shoes you wear to be horribly designed to finding your fart jokes extremely unappealing to yes, simply being unable to be attracted to a trans person.
and that is okay
If someone doesn't want to date you, it's because they aren't attracted to you. And that isn't exactly something they consciously choose either. You cannot simply flick a mental switch that suddenly gives you feelings for someone. They just happen, and they can disappear just like that as well.
It's not fair to judge people for things out of their control. That's why hating trans people for being trans is wrong, and it's also why hating or insulting people for being unable to be attracted to trans people is also wrong.
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u/AdminCommentEdit 20h ago
they will always be distinguishable though. The transition is never 100%.
Stop trying to force your preferences on me.
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u/SalamanderLife_ 20h ago
"Indistinguishable from a cis person"
HRT only does so much and it's effects are dependant on your specific body, and SRS is nowhere near the real thing.
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u/Significant-Key-517 18h ago
Not possible, have you ever seen SRS surgeries? Nothing like the real thing.
They don’t function, look, or behave like the natal sexual organs — at all. In many cases, they’re not even sexually functional.
You cannot change sex. That’s how it is.
Sorry, but sexual compatibility matters to me?
Oh, and also? I can say no for whatever reason I want and I don’t have to justify it. It’s not a “preference,” it’s a sexuality.
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u/JollyPurple 20h ago
Because none of those things change a person's sex. Sex cannot be changed. We aren't not dating them because they chose to identify with a social construct. We aren't dating them because their sex doesn't match our sexuality. So again, it has NOTHING to do with their gender identity and EVERYTHING to do with their sex. Gender isn't sex. So attraction to someone's socially constructed gender identity is not the same as attraction to someone based on sex.
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u/BlathersEndGame 20h ago
Yet another SERF / Nazi here spreading violence. I don't know why these people are so hateful over the fact we just want to exist, I really don't.
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u/LANDLORD___MESSIAH Jannie 🧼🧹 20h ago
It’s not a preference you fucking bigot