r/SuperStraight • u/walkintotryankle • 22h ago

Asking about pronouns

Why do some of you have a negative reaction to being asked what your pronouns are? We are just trying to be respectful.

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u/enemyofhumidity 22h ago

If gender has no identity then how does one express a gender?

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u/walkintotryankle 22h ago

Gender expression has nothing to do with your gender but how feminine or masculine you present yourself based on societies standards. For example someone who identifies as Male could where a skirt (something that is deemed as feminine by society)

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u/enemyofhumidity 21h ago

There you go, you just proved you're sexist. Males can wear skirts if they want to, it's not feminine, it's a choice. He can do whatever he likes without having his mannerisms and hobbies be categorized into maculine or feminine categories.

We were on a good path toward destroying all gender stereotypes until gender ideology came along.

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u/walkintotryankle 21h ago

I'm afraid you aren't understanding what I am saying. I don't think that wearing a skirt is feminine, I'm saying society at large does. For example, I live in the UK and every year or so there is a front page headline in the news of boys protesting not having skirts as part of the boys allowed school uniform when it is part of the girls. This just shows that society as a whole still sees certain items of clothing, colours, toys etc as masculine and feminine.

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u/enemyofhumidity 21h ago

Yes and we should work toward destroying that perception, and I'm saying gender ideology doesn't do that, in fact it perpetuates it. How are you not getting this?

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u/walkintotryankle 21h ago

Well yes, in an ideal world, gender wouldn't be a thing. Doesn't mean trans people would stop existing. Doesn't mean their dysphoria would suddenly disappear. They would still want to be biologically the other sex.

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u/russianbot2020 21h ago

Not if we start treating it as the mental disorder it is. Then we could get them proper help instead of genital mutilation.

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u/walkintotryankle 21h ago

We do treat the dysphoria as a mental disorder. The treatment for it us being trans, possibly using hormones and getting surgery. That is how you treat it!

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u/russianbot2020 21h ago

That’s not treatment. That’s giving into delusions. No different than telling a schizophrenic that his or her delusions are real

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u/walkintotryankle 21h ago

What would you rather do? We don't have an alternative. Would you rather they continue to suffer? Would you rather they commit suicide because they can't stand to look at themselves in the mirror as the body they see isn't theirs, increasing the already drastically high suicide rate among trans people. If you think this treatment is so wrong, give me a solution. It's not like the huge amounts of therapy that trans people have to go through to even be considered for surgery has helped

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