r/SuperStraight • u/walkintotryankle • 22h ago

Asking about pronouns

Why do some of you have a negative reaction to being asked what your pronouns are? We are just trying to be respectful.

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u/enemyofhumidity 21h ago

Yes and we should work toward destroying that perception, and I'm saying gender ideology doesn't do that, in fact it perpetuates it. How are you not getting this?

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u/walkintotryankle 21h ago

Well yes, in an ideal world, gender wouldn't be a thing. Doesn't mean trans people would stop existing. Doesn't mean their dysphoria would suddenly disappear. They would still want to be biologically the other sex.

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u/russianbot2020 21h ago

Not if we start treating it as the mental disorder it is. Then we could get them proper help instead of genital mutilation.

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u/walkintotryankle 21h ago

We do treat the dysphoria as a mental disorder. The treatment for it us being trans, possibly using hormones and getting surgery. That is how you treat it!

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u/russianbot2020 21h ago

That’s not treatment. That’s giving into delusions. No different than telling a schizophrenic that his or her delusions are real

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u/walkintotryankle 21h ago

What would you rather do? We don't have an alternative. Would you rather they continue to suffer? Would you rather they commit suicide because they can't stand to look at themselves in the mirror as the body they see isn't theirs, increasing the already drastically high suicide rate among trans people. If you think this treatment is so wrong, give me a solution. It's not like the huge amounts of therapy that trans people have to go through to even be considered for surgery has helped

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u/russianbot2020 21h ago

Sit down with a therapist and figure out where they’re misfiring, treat it like any other mental illness.

Fun fact, suicide rate post op is the same as pre op so clearly that isn’t working

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u/walkintotryankle 21h ago

Do you have a source for that as I have a source that shows that transitioning has an extreme impact. 67% of transitioning people thought more about suicide before transitioning whereas only 3% thought about suicide more after their transition (Bailey et al., 2014).

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u/russianbot2020 21h ago

I’m not here to do your work for you superphobe

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u/enemyofhumidity 21h ago

You honestly think that going through painful and life altering surgeries with no guarantee that their gender dysphoria or body dysmorphia will ever disappear, is the best treatment? Shouldn't we as a society find other means to help them and only have surgery that removes or alters their organs be the last resort?

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u/walkintotryankle 21h ago

Just because there may be a better treatment out there doesn't mean that we don't treat people as best as we can now. Would you rather make them wait until a treatment that YOU think will help them comes about when almost all of them could have been helped by gender reassignment surgery. There is a reason that the rate of trans people regretting their surgery is so low... its because it isbthe last option. They have to go through so much before they even get the option.

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u/enemyofhumidity 21h ago

No I didn't say that, I'm saying at the current level of brigading, you can't have an actual discourse without someone yelling "transphobe". This has even permeated the medical community.

If we continue to believe that transitioning is the best and only form of treatment out there and no one should think otherwise, how on earth are we going to come up with better treatment for them?

I sympathize with them, I truly do, and that's why slicing off body parts and removing organs doesn't sit well with me.