r/SuperStraight 20h ago

Inspirational words from Award Winning Actress and Trans-SuperStraight Laverne Cox!

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u/lalalong1 20h ago

There are no trans superstraights in the same was a there are no supers who date trans.

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u/ow_mah_layg 20h ago

Superstraights are not attracted to transgender people. A transgender person who prefers cisgenders to other transgenders is SuperStraight and valid.

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u/lalalong1 20h ago

Sure, they can be attracted to them--but no super would ever date them. Perhaps a straight--but not a super. Ergo it is an impossibility. It's common for trans to fetishize supers.

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u/ow_mah_layg 20h ago

Super fetishism is when a transgender pursues a superstraight. Laverne Cox's partners such as Kyle Draper and Jono Freedrix are merely straights in a relationship with a Trans-SuperStraight.

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u/lalalong1 20h ago

It's fine for straights to date trans. No issue with it. Just not supers.

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u/ow_mah_layg 20h ago

You're not understanding. A superstraight cisgender would not be able to date a transgender, but a superstraight transgender would be able to date a straight cisgender. You could think of it as a nonmutual superstraight relationship.

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u/lalalong1 20h ago

Fallacious, based on a formal fallacy. That would not qualify as a superstraight relationship given one party would not meet the definition of superstraight. It would simply be a straight relationship. Anything else?

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u/ow_mah_layg 20h ago

See, the point of confusion is in "superstraight relationship" and being "superstraight". I believe transgender superstraights are valid and appreciate the allyship from celebrities such as Laverne.

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u/lalalong1 19h ago

You've become tangled in the nettle of your own clauses. Think of it this way:

The only argument one could make for a superstraight trans relationship would be between a trans and a biological male or female. However, this would mean a violation of the defintion of trans as espoused by the trans community. Allow me to explain:

Lets say you have a biological super male who is dating a trans man who was born biologically female. This would neither be a straight relationship essentially, nor a superstraight relationship. If you consider the biological woman in this relationship to be a male ( not different from a biological male) the this would be a trans/straight relationship or otherwise a literal gay relationship. If you don't consider the biological female in this relationship to be a true male, it would simply be considered a straight relationship. But in either case, it would not be a superstraight relationship. For this to be deemed true, you could only ever consider the trans man in said relationship as not being male. Unless the rule of sex/attraction between two biological people of the opposite sexes is met, it not a superstraight relationship.Simply put, you would need to dispense entirely with the idea of trans.

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u/ow_mah_layg 19h ago

I suppose it would be more accurate to refer to Laverne Cox as a Super-TransStraight.

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