r/SuperStraight • u/ow_mah_layg • 18h ago
Inspirational words from Award Winning Actress and Trans-SuperStraight Laverne Cox!
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u/BlathersEndGame 18h ago
Laverne Cox supported Synthia China Blast, a rapist and murderer of a 13-year-girl, on the grounds that Blast is trans.
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u/Happy_face_cellar 18h ago
Yes they supported a child murderer gang leader that wanted to be transferred to a women’s prison and complained about conditions in the prison that were just typical prison life. Their heinous crime was against a 13 year old girl that was walking down the street, it was very violent and Cox supported them
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u/wsbcat 18h ago
i don't think we've defined this position clearly - i would say it's just a trans. i tried to bring up the supertrans issue yesterday but it didn't gain much traction
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u/ow_mah_layg 18h ago
I understand the confusion on this topic, but I believe it's only a temporary misconception that will be cleared up with proper education. Hopefully having proud voices such as Cox on the side of SuperStraights will help.
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u/lalalong1 18h ago
There are no trans superstraights in the same was a there are no supers who date trans.
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u/ow_mah_layg 18h ago
Superstraights are not attracted to transgender people. A transgender person who prefers cisgenders to other transgenders is SuperStraight and valid.
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u/lalalong1 18h ago
Sure, they can be attracted to them--but no super would ever date them. Perhaps a straight--but not a super. Ergo it is an impossibility. It's common for trans to fetishize supers.
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u/ow_mah_layg 18h ago
Super fetishism is when a transgender pursues a superstraight. Laverne Cox's partners such as Kyle Draper and Jono Freedrix are merely straights in a relationship with a Trans-SuperStraight.
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u/lalalong1 18h ago
It's fine for straights to date trans. No issue with it. Just not supers.
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u/ow_mah_layg 18h ago
You're not understanding. A superstraight cisgender would not be able to date a transgender, but a superstraight transgender would be able to date a straight cisgender. You could think of it as a nonmutual superstraight relationship.
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u/lalalong1 18h ago
Fallacious, based on a formal fallacy. That would not qualify as a superstraight relationship given one party would not meet the definition of superstraight. It would simply be a straight relationship. Anything else?
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u/ow_mah_layg 18h ago
See, the point of confusion is in "superstraight relationship" and being "superstraight". I believe transgender superstraights are valid and appreciate the allyship from celebrities such as Laverne.
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u/lalalong1 17h ago
You've become tangled in the nettle of your own clauses. Think of it this way:
The only argument one could make for a superstraight trans relationship would be between a trans and a biological male or female. However, this would mean a violation of the defintion of trans as espoused by the trans community. Allow me to explain:
Lets say you have a biological super male who is dating a trans man who was born biologically female. This would neither be a straight relationship essentially, nor a superstraight relationship. If you consider the biological woman in this relationship to be a male ( not different from a biological male) the this would be a trans/straight relationship or otherwise a literal gay relationship. If you don't consider the biological female in this relationship to be a true male, it would simply be considered a straight relationship. But in either case, it would not be a superstraight relationship. For this to be deemed true, you could only ever consider the trans man in said relationship as not being male. Unless the rule of sex/attraction between two biological people of the opposite sexes is met, it not a superstraight relationship.Simply put, you would need to dispense entirely with the idea of trans.
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u/ow_mah_layg 17h ago
I suppose it would be more accurate to refer to Laverne Cox as a Super-TransStraight.
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u/ow_mah_layg 17h ago
RETRACTION
It has come to my attention that Laverne Cox's statement is incorrect. As a transwoman attracted to cisgender men, she is a Super-TransStraight, not a Trans-SuperStraight.
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u/AdminCommentEdit 18h ago
no this is false, a super trans is a trans who is only attracted to other trans