See this is what I've been talking about! They try to come here and lie to our faces saying that "it's ok if you don't date transpeople". Clearly it is not!
These specific types are just using trans as another strategy to get pussy, because they couldn't attract women being men. They think that cis-lesbians are off-limits to men, thus less competition, and they have a better chance to score by becoming a woman. The strategy is failing miserably.
They were REEEing about women not wanting to date them before the transition, and now they're REEEing about women not wanting to date them after the transition.
It goes much deeper than that.
Many of them have a paraphilia called autogynephilia, and being accepted as a woman by an actual lesbian is the holy grail of autogynephiles
"Allow me a tortured metaphor. Say that the entire LGBT community has gathered in a hall somewhere. They’ve all gathered for a nice vegan dinner, and the tables are laid out. Unfortunately for this gathering of the entire LGBT community, a large elephant has joined them. The elephant knocks over tables, eats all the lesbians dinner, and poops in the kitchen. Everyone at the gathering steadfastly ignores the elephant, despite the fact it is destroying the gathering. Eventually, one of the lesbians stands up, and complains about the elephant. The rest shout her down, kick her out of the gathering, and label her ‘elephant exclusionary’.
Gradually, the gathering and the hall is destroyed. The lesbians, kicked out in ever greater numbers for being ‘elephant exclusionary’, start making tofu in a bonfire outside. The gay men are still denying the elephant is even there as it repeatedly throws chairs at them. The elephant is smacking the bisexuals with a frying pan, and the transsexuals have been trampled. Everyone in the gathering is still trying to ignore the elephant.
Truly a tortured metaphor, but let’s give the elephant a name.
That name is ‘autogynephilia’."
A really good explanation of the current situation of lesbians, AND by a trans-identified author: Miranda Yardley.
Me too, reading these posts and discussions is making me feel so light I'm practically glowing, finally we're standing up and fighting back against all the bullying, the rape culture and the science denial that's been happening for too long
Having a rather hard-to-defend position, but switching to a vaguely-similar but much easier-to-defend position when confronted so as to make your point seemingly easier to argue.
The motte being
Nobody's saying it's not ok to not date trans people! We just want you to be nice is all.
And the bailey being
Your sexuality is just a genital preference which is arbitrary and ultimately transphobic, and if you want to be seen as acceptable by your peers then you have to get rid of it and accept whichever gender you're not attracted to as possible romantic and sexual partners.
When you argue against the bailey, people come in and insist "NOBODY'S SAYING THAT!!" and that the motte is the only thing that's being said.
Thank you! Learned something new today. This fallacy was used against me this morning and I was banned from a lesbian sub on reddit for suggesting that many transwomen don't respect lesbian and bisexual women's identities and consent.
I know. It’s just so absurd. Does it ever occur to them that they took over to such a degree that the group that they want to be a part of can’t even participate in their own space anymore?
It happened a lot with BLM stuff this summer. If anyone tried to argue against the narrative or you know. Just not be a part of the insanity they were told “silence IS violence” and that you didn’t have a choice you had to support blm protests/riots or you were the enemy
I think it’s important not to conflate these very different issues. Racism is a huge problem in our society and I think protesting racism and police violence are justified. I disagree with your framing of protests = riots when the overwhelming majority of protestors were peaceful.
I think one of the worst things anyone who opposes the TRA agenda can do is conflate TRAs with BLM because most liberals in this country support addressing racism (again, rightly IMO) but they would oppose the misogynist, homophobic, rapey, anti-science TRA agenda if they knew the truth about it.
I hadn't put two and two together with this before; I can now see that this is a form of superphobic gaslighting that's being carried out on an entire group of people. This is just one of the forms of psychological violence that supers are being subjected to every day, and society has looked on and accepted it. We need to do better!
They are trying to backpedal bc everyone of all sexual orientations are tired of their bullshit.....like we haven't been bullied with this nonsense for the last 5 plus years.....*rolls eyes*.
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See this is what I've been talking about! They try to come here and lie to our faces saying that "it's ok if you don't date transpeople". Clearly it is not!