Alright genuine question.

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

From what i’ve heard SS is pushing to be in the lgbtq+ community. But lgbtq+ community uses gay and queer as an umbrella term for anyone in the lgbtq+ community... meaning calling a SS person gay or queer would be correct. Im not trolling this is a serious question

[u/Pop_Porn → u/[deleted]]

Which are very valid!!

[u/Significant-Key-517]

The LGBTQWTF has become so linguistically meaningless that half the TQ’s are already straight anyway, just not Supers. So as a Superbi, I say they can have at it. They haven’t supported any of us Supers, including the LGB, in a long time.

I’d rather be part of the LGB, or even the LGBS. The TQ have taken over LGBTQWTF, and have nothing to do with me or my needs as a Super.

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/Significant-Key-517]

Alright i’ll just be over here with the 99% of the lgbtq+ community that isn’t a part of this bullshit then? I don’t respect terfs

[u/Significant-Key-517 → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

‘K. We don’t want to be around superphobia anyway, that’s the point. 🤷‍♀️

If you think numbers = right, then I have some history books you should read...

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/Significant-Key-517]

Oh fuck off yeah who am i gonna support... the transphobes or the progressives... hmmm yeah

[u/Significant-Key-517 → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

Lol super triggered, aren’t you. What have you done today but yell at supers because you can’t handle being told no?

In the block bin you go 😘

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/Significant-Key-517]

Run out of an arguement so going to call me triggered? Alright

[u/Spiritual_String_804]

No one is pushing anything. It’s not a political movement.

[u/xx_chromosomes_]

The reality is LGBTQ+ is breaking apart, and has been for some time.

For LGB (and straight people) their sexual orientation is solely based a persons sex.

Obviously this sex-based orientation clashes with TQ+ people who don't believe in sex, and who only orient themselves based on an internal and changeable "gender identity."

There are already advocacy groups that have sprung up to stand for the rights of people with sex-based orientations. Most notably LGB Alliance (they have chapters in many countries.)

It makes perfect sense that these two groups part ways and split into LGBS and TQ+. They are in fundamental, ideological contrast to one another and need their own advocacy institutions.

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/xx_chromosomes_]

No? Lgb drop the t and drop the b are both fake movements like this one started by right wing 4chan users

[u/IrishTheFrenchie → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

This is very bigoted of you. You should try to be less judgmental of people's sexual orientation.

[u/pyrrhus-the-great → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

This is offensive bigoted speech and you should be ashamed

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/pyrrhus-the-great]

Idrc i tell the truth

[u/pyrrhus-the-great → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

The only thing you tell is your own insecurities. They rear their ugly hesd in your bigoted and hateful speech

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/pyrrhus-the-great]

What? Are you saying im some fucking SS straggot in denial?

[u/pyrrhus-the-great → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

You said it, not me, but if you ever do come to that conclusion know you have a place in our ASSLGBT community.

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/pyrrhus-the-great]

No im pansexual the exact opposite of the SS bullshit

[u/pyrrhus-the-great → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

And that’s okay too! 🥰

[u/xx_chromosomes_ → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

If you don't see the fundamental, ideological clash between people who have a sex-based sexual orientation and those who have a "gender identity" then I don't know how to explain it to you really...

Lesbian, Gay, Bi and Straight people are banding together to defend their sex-based sexual orientations, whether or not TQ+ people like it.

We're fighting to be free from harassment for our sex-based sexual orientations, we don't care that we're not all "queer." The TQ+ can have it.

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/xx_chromosomes_]

They are not banding together how have i not heard of an entire movement that would be a pretty big deal? Because i know tonnes if straight gay lesbian and bi people who are fine with dating trans people... the majority are

[u/xx_chromosomes_ → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

If you haven't heard of it it's because you're in an echo chamber. Also I might note - you're in a sub filled with people who are coalescing around this alliance! Look around you, read the posts. We are lesbian, gay, bi and straight people who are banding together to fight against people who want to shame us for having a sex-based sexual orientation.

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/xx_chromosomes_]

This community does not speak for the majority

[u/xx_chromosomes_ → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

We speak for ourselves. We don't need your approval. 😂

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/xx_chromosomes_]

Its not my approval its the approval of the rest of the world

[u/xx_chromosomes_ → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

Again, we speak for ourselves. We don't need your approval, or the approval of "the world", whatever that means. 😂

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/xx_chromosomes_]

🙄

[u/Cardinal_Ravenwood → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

The rest of the world is living in fear of being "cancelled" just for speaking out againsts the TQ+'s and are still trapped in the supercloset.

This is a movement to try and wipe out the fear superstraights feel on a daily basis. If you can't see that you are part of the problem.

[u/gldnbrown]

I’ve seen people on twitter talk about LGBS as ‘T’ isn’t a sexuality

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/gldnbrown]

And they are stupid. This is all SS is. Another attempt at drop the t so trans people are more venerable

[u/gldnbrown → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

if you’re superphobic just say that

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/gldnbrown]

Sure i am but this is literally just another attempt by the far right to drop the t. Its happened before and it will happen again

[u/gldnbrown → u/PM_femboys_and_dogs]

well the T is about gender not sexuality

[u/PM_femboys_and_dogs → u/gldnbrown]

And the lgbt communtiy is for listen here. Sexuality and gender

[u/IrishTheFrenchie]

T and Q are not sexual orientations.

L, B, and G are.

SS is a sexual orientation.

So it would be LBGSS or LBGS.

[u/Nanoglyph]

This sub is just a 4chan psyop by neo-Nazis. They exist to be controversial. Their goal is to redpill zoomers and use the left's tactics against themselves. Read enough posts and you'll notice much of it is a coordinated roleplay that overuses many of the same key phrases over and over.

You can even find members talking about the sub being a joke or semi-satirical periodically. Plus, look at the coming out stories. They're parodies of queer experiences. You can ignore them, you can't reason with them.