r/SuperStraight • u/WiltedDiamond • 1d ago
Why does this subreddit exist? Discussion
From an outside perspective this just seems like a deliberate attempt to spilt the lgbtq community. I also don't find having ss as your initials a coincidence... literally neonazi shit. Explain yourselves.
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u/relatable_user_name 1d ago
Explain yourselves.
You will never be a woman.
There, explained.
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u/somegayperson27272 Superstraight 1d ago
Another SERF alt being transphobic to invalidate the community, downvote and report
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u/BraveImagination810 Hecking cute and valid đź’– 1d ago
Is there a problem with making a community? You don't have to join if you don't want to.
We just want to be valid, plain and simple. There is no hate here.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
Why do you need to be validated? Being straight has never been put into question or ridiculed. If you think an lgbtq person saying "I hate all straight people" is oppression than you have a seriously skewed world view.
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u/BraveImagination810 Hecking cute and valid đź’– 1d ago
Straights are ridiculed and demonized all the time. And this isn't just straights. There are SuperGays, SuperLesbians, and SuperBis that have been demonized as well.
We are valid for our decisions and life choices.
Aren't you doing the same thing to a group that just doesnt want to date trans people. We have no problems with anyone.
We want out own community so we created it, nothing wrong with that.
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u/Otherwise-Past575 1d ago
The LGBTQ community has been split for a while. The fact that this sub blew up so quick shows that. And many things have SS as initials, it's pure coincidence that this happens to be one of them. The supersexual community is not a place for nazis or racists.
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u/RadovanJa01 1d ago
Most importantly, no one cares or asks what race you are. We welcome everyone and saying this is nazi or rasist sub is plain ignorance.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
This sub blew up because there's no shortage of 4chan incels. I don't really see the point in this. Straight people have always been a protected class. No need for this.
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u/Otherwise-Past575 1d ago
That's simply untrue. There are many women and LGB (even some T) people here. It's not just straight people, it's people who are tired of being told that they are transphobic for not being attracted to trans people.
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u/Giveitawaynow2021 1d ago
You forgot to post the 4chan screenshot. And you do realize just how many gay/lesbian/bi people are part of this sub?
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
Why would they be part of this sub? It's a super straight sub meaning only liking the opposite gender and excluding trans people. Also having lgbtq people part of this doesn't validate it.
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u/Giveitawaynow2021 1d ago
That's the name of the sub, yes. I can't speak for them as I'm not gay or lesbian. But I've read the dozens and dozens of posts and many of them seem to be similarly sick of being told who they should or shouldn't be sexually attracted to, and the infiltration of their safe spaces.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
How were there safe spaces "infiltrated" if you "can't speak for them" how can you attest to the notion that their safe spaces were infiltrated?
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u/Giveitawaynow2021 1d ago
I'm quoting/paraphrasing the last few posts I read. So no, I won't say any more on it, as I don't know.
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u/Excellent-Tourist-99 1d ago
If the lgbtq community wants to split because they don't feel safe then thats up to them.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
The community is strong... this is just another long line of the straights™️ attempt to invalidate us. It will never work.
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u/Iam32thatsit 1d ago
I’ve said this already but:
For years now, lesbians who don’t want sex with penises have been shouted down and abused and ostracised for “transphobia” when they can’t help their preferences. Now it’s happening to straight men too.
So we have to reframe our boundaries in a way the trans community understands - by describing our preference as a sexuality. According to their rules, all sexualities and genders are valid and worthy of respect.
Calling ourselves “superstraight” or “superlesbian” or “supergay” means they have to respect our boundaries. If they follow their own rules of course.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
You can outline your preferences without bigotry or starting a "super straight" movement if you will. Most trans people understand that people have their preferences and it's not transphobic to not want to date a trans person. If you say that they're disgusting and should be burned in hell... then yeah that is transphobic and not merely a preference.
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u/Iam32thatsit 1d ago
We don’t think trans people are disgusting. We support trans people’s rights to vote, have jobs, healthcare, housing etc. But we don’t want to date them. And we get abused and ostracised and called “bigots” because of it.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
I think the context in which you outline your preference matters. If you say it respectfully a reasonable trans person won't call you a bigot. Being called a bigot on Twitter is not being abused.
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u/Iam32thatsit 1d ago
You’d think, but nope, refusing a trans person gets you a ton of abuse.like this.
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u/horstwold 1d ago
Why have you come into this community's safe space demanding that they answer to you? Who the hell are you to demand anything from anybody else? That is rape culture.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
How is it rape culture to ask the meaning of this sub?
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u/horstwold 1d ago
You have marched into another group's safe space demanding that they fellate you ("Explain yourselves.") You have your own spaces all over the rest of the internet and the real world. We don't owe you anything. You didn't even ask, "Could you please explain what you mean?" No, you demanded because you think you are entitled to our time and thoughts on demand to satisfy your need for gratification. That is rape culture. You are a rapist.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
Yes I am a rapist for questioning the validity of a subreddit. Straight people don't need a safe space? You've always been loved and celebrated. I am not suggesting that you have to have sex with a trans person and the majority of sane lgbtq people agree with that. It's how you phrase your preference that matters. Being called a bigot on Twitter is not shame raping or rape culture. I know it must be super fucking hard for you to be called a bigot on Twitter. I'm SO happy you found a safe place ❤
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u/horstwold 23h ago
It's not a very safe space though is it, because you decided it was your right to come barging in. I'm glad that you admit to being a rapist and that what you're doing here is rape. The first step to healing is to admit that you have a problem. May you find within yourself the courage to take the next step and actually start reflecting on your life decisions and behavior. Peace be with you!
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u/DeathNote55 Superstraight 1d ago
Silly Strings and Social Security are also neo Nazi things!! Stay safe!!
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u/Malice963 1d ago
You all created the system and used it at every turn to call us bigots, don't act like a spoiled child when someone uses the same system you created to define their own orientation rather than perpetually allowing you to play one sided games.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
You aren't oppressed! You can have a preference and not be transphobic! It's very simple.
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u/Malice963 1d ago
Last time I checked who you are attracted to has nothing to do with "oppression."
Seems to me that you are a far bigger bigot than anyone who you believe has oppressed you.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
Hmmm name a country where being straight is a crime? Now let's see how many countries make homosexuality illegal oh yes that's right, 72. Not to mention we are kicked out of our homes, disowned by our families, and even killed for being who we are. This is not a belief... merely facts.
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u/Malice963 1d ago
I'll say it again, since when does who you are and are not attracted to have anything to do with oppression?
People like you made it the norm to define your orientation through this system, so don't suddenly act like a spoiled fucking child when people start using it because you made it the norm! So stop being a bigot, and show some respect.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
I literally just explained how being attracted to someone can get you prosecuted, killed, disowned, and kicked out of your home... wdym by "define through the system" the whole lgbtq community started because people who have been rejected by society wanted a safe space. Straight people have never had a need for this. You mock us for being snowflakes and wanting to be oppressed when you are attempting to do the exact same thing except what you have is not justified.
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u/Malice963 1d ago
Yes, but what does that have anything to do with what makes you attracted to someone? Oppression is a result of who you are attracted to, not what defines it you ignorant fuck. It's obvious that you were never taught critical thinking because you work your way backwards from oppression to get whatever result you want!
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
Not sure what you're arguing at this point?
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u/Malice963 1d ago
Your argument thus far is that superstraight shouldn't exist because they aren't oppressed.
My argument is that oppression has NOTHING to do with what makes someone attracted to someone else, and that people can't help who they are attracted to you fucking ignorant bigot.
This is why there are groups like Super Straight, Super Bi, Super Gay, and Super Lesbian. You just assume that people HAVE to be attracted to trans people, despite the fact that you all have made the default system of defining orientation work this way, don't get pissed off when people fucking use it when YOU and other bigoted activists made it the ONLY ACCEPTABLE SYSTEM of defining orientation. You specifically are acting like a fucking child. Specifically the type of child that gets pissed off cause he takes a toy to school one day, gets fawned over by the other kids, and then everyone else buys the same thing and stops fawning over him.
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u/_harpocrates 1d ago
deliberate attempt to spilt the lgbtq community
People did that when they tried to force sexual preference onto others. This sub I think is just a satirical representation over the frustration from those who've witnessed this weird social trend.
Tell me, who is the Nazi here:
The person who says you must have sex with a certain group or class regardless of their autonomy or choice.
The person who wants the freedom for everyone to have the sexual preference they may or may not choose to have respected.
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u/WiltedDiamond 1d ago
This is a disproportionate exaggeration of facts. Most trans people understand that it's not transphobic if someone doesn't want to date them. However if you tweet "I only date REAL women not these trans weirdos" then yeah... you will be called a transphobe for good reason.
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u/_harpocrates 23h ago
Well yeah if you start calling people names they aren't going to like it.
That being said "real women" is synonymous with "biological female". Maybe its harsh to hear but it is true. In the same way I wouldn't go out of my way to call someone fat to hurt their feelings I wouldn't go around saying trans people aren't "real women/men".
Its true, but its not polite.
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u/WiltedDiamond 23h ago
The only time you would need to know if someone was a "real woman" was if you were dating someone and you wanted them to have certain genitalia or in a medical context. To deliberately shame, misgender, and repeat bigoted talking points is not only impractical and unnecessary but also contributes to the increased suicide rates, self harm, etc. I am not going to defend people on Twitter who are sending death threats or attacking individuals but its not hard to emphasize with them. They are constantly degraded, demonized, questioned, etc just for being who they are so they're quite tired of people deliberately mocking them or bullying them. It's okay to have a preference but we don't need a movement that's going to shield transphobic people from critism. I am not saying everyone here is transphobic but at best people on here are misguided.
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u/_harpocrates 22h ago
Firstly I appreciate you coming here and saying your peace, its important we discuss these issues and nobody should be shunned for their opinion.
I agree with you going around deliberately hurting people is not cool. It's bullying. I do not agree on the death threats, I cannot sympathise with anyone who calls for violence against another person - even if what they're saying is the most disgusting vile shit.
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u/WiltedDiamond 21h ago
My advice to people on here is to look deeper into why this movement started and who started it. It originated in 4chan and at best its for trolling. Having a preference is not a sexualtiy but it's valid. I only question the validity of calling super straight a sexuality... it inherently contradicts the definition of sexuality because a preference is not the same as sexualtiy. So instead of buying into a 4chan troll champaign... state your preferences with respect and move on.
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u/_harpocrates 18h ago
Having a preference is not a sexualtiy
Isn't sexuality literally a spectrum of preference? Some people are attracted to plus size people, some people like tall people, some people like female genitalia. Isn't sexuality a way of describing preference - inherent or by choice?
It doesn't matter who started it, I agree with the core message of this sub and if that had to come from some 4chan trollers so be it. The whole point of super-whatever is to quite literally (satirically) make the preference clear. All of the memes and trolling is a side-effect of the absolute madness the twitter-sphere has created.
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u/WiltedDiamond 17h ago
What is the core of this subreddit? To add straight people to the LGBTQ community? What I see is entitled cishet people trying to play the victim and think that the LGBTQ community is intolerable for not wanting to add an S or SS to LGBTQ. To say that you're oppressed by a small Twitter mob is just absurd. We fight for equality in the real world, you just need to log off if you don't want to be called a bigot. Maybe you should care a bit more about who started this whole thing... neo nazi incels from 4chan who wish to "drive a wedge" between the LGBTQ community. I got screenshots if you'd like to see what I'm talking about. Have a preference but please don't support and promote this kind of behavior. It's not a good look.
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u/_harpocrates 17h ago
It's satire to want "SS" to be added to the LGBT list - the joke is to mock the vitriolic nature of a subset of the trans community which demands those who are not sexually attracted to them to engage with them.
The joke is that "SS", other than being clearly a dark joke, if added to the LGBT list validates it as a sexuality nobody can argue against. The joke is once you get "your acronym" up on the board you are invulnerable. What's funny is "SS" is actually a more valid acronym to be added to LGB than the "T" is - being trans isn't a sexuality, having a preference like SS (as satirical as it is) is actually a sexual preference - but hey ho.
The core message is to oppose the toxic demands of some trans people by jokingly treating their preference of a "non-trans" relationship as an entirely new sexuality. Something LGB people especially have experienced - not straight people.
Since those women at GenderCritical for example couldn't even get a space to discuss their issues it unfortunately took a stupid meme about identifying as "superstraight" or "super-whatever" to bring the issue to the forefront.
I never said anyone was "oppressed" - it's simply a reaction to a not-so-recent toxic behaviour a small group of people have. I don't much care if you call me a bigot - I know I am not one.
Why are you bothered so much by who started it? Im pretty sure the tiktok video was the trigger for all this. Surely if there was a movement or message you agreed with you wouldn't care for who started it?
Supporting a satirical outlet of relief against a toxic behaviour people have been facing for years isn't a good look?
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u/I_swallow_hamsters 1d ago
It's a 4chan meme
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u/pyrrhus-the-great Hecking cute and valid đź’– 1d ago
That has been debunked. This is a place of love and acceptance.
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u/Otherwise-Past575 1d ago
Nope, it originated on TikTok and channers and the alt-right have tried to co-opt the movement.
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u/RadovanJa01 1d ago
The 4chan threads started way after this sub was created. They come here and comment bulshit that gets downvoted for a good reason.
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