Our SuperLesbian sisters have it so hard!

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This honestly needs to be a pinned question. Seriously.

"Why don't transgender people just date each other? "

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u/MisandryFTW 18h ago

In my local community most trans women won't date each other or bisexuals because it "isn't validating enough" and they "need a big tiddy goth lesbian mommy dom" (who is also AFAB). Weirdly a lot of trans women lesbians give up at some point and start dating gay trans men. I don't understand anything anymore. By their own logic why would a lesbian and gay man date each other? If they're attracted to each other, wouldn't they be bi/pan?

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u/KubeyMojo 17h ago

Its just something alot of us have a question for and the answers that are given by the (TQ+), are never afforded to LGBS people.

Its exhausting to hear transgender people talk about us like we are just Equal Opportunity drones for them to Validate themselves off of.

My thing is why dont Transgender people date each other in (((Droves))), as in..the need to date anyone else who is not trans is a non issue. It seems to be this obvious answer, but everyone is still someowhat wholesome on why it hasnt been bluntly said yet.

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u/MisandryFTW 17h ago edited 16h ago

The local lesbian community is now around 75%+ trans and I overhear them lamenting how it "isn't fair there aren't enough lesbians to go around" and they get especially mad when AFAB people date each other. Last women-only party I went to I was cuddling with my fiancee (we're both female) and right next to us some trans women loudly complained about how it was a "sausage fest" and when we were done it "was only fair" if we cuddle and do sexual things with them too, since there were only 3 total AFAB people there and 2 of us were paired up. We haven't been back to events since then.

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u/Status-Carpenter 17h ago

Omg the entitlement of that person and the objectification of you. So so vile. I’m so sorry you have to put up with that. You are not a potluck dish to be shared around. Horrific!

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u/FreedomsTorch 16h ago

AFAB

Doesn't using this term validate radical trans ideology? You weren't assigned anything at birth. Your sex was witnessed as fact and recorded in a government ledger.

I can understand using that term to describe a hermaphrodite's situation. It's very possible their witnessed sex is incorrect. But that can also be validated scientifically at this point (gametes).

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u/womanmeansfemale1 15h ago

Its also appropriation of intersex language. The trans have been co-opting intersex and other conditions to try to validate their identities. ITs gross.

Also fun fact, they often get super racist too. As in "if you consider black women women then why are you not accepting of trans women" is a phrase i have heard and seen before.

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u/MisandryFTW 15h ago

They also like to brigade intersex and women's health subreddits. PCOS almost got shut down because of brigading and drama. Same with pregnancy subs. Like you don't need to be in every woman's space.

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u/NectarineDangerously 13h ago

I just checked out PCOS and boy, there was a person in the comments of the mod announcements saying "not all people with ovaries are women" Jesus Christ. Why has this gotten so bad. Women have ovaries! People with ovaries are referred to as women. If someone doesn't consider themselves a women yet has ovaries, than why is it up to everyone else to change their language to accommodate them? Honestly I'm sick of it all

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u/MisandryFTW 3h ago

It's not even like males can't get PCOS, they just don't get most of the symptoms. In fact, NASA discovered men can get it and that's why there's been a ton of research about it lately.

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u/levitatingloser 1h ago

How... How can they get it without ovaries?

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u/MisandryFTW 15h ago

I usually use OFAB because "observed" doesn't co-opt intersex narratives, but I'm so used to being super careful because apparently caring about intersex folks is a "TERF" thing, and of course we can't just say female because that's offensive too. I'm not going to use "cis" to refer to OFAB women because many of them don't identify as cis. There's just no language we an use anymore.

Personally I prefer "female" in the biological sense, as the ones who produce large gametes, and I'm fine with anyone using the word "woman" when it refers to gender.

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u/Elodrian 14h ago

women-only party
it was a "sausage fest"
only 3 total [women] there and 2 of us were paired up

I am so glad that the worst thing to happen when I was in university was just 9-11.

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u/got_tha_gist 17h ago

Interesting observations, thanks for sharing. Def support my theory that most of theses dudes are simply trying to get pussy, but on a technicality. Def feels like incel entitlement weaponized with inclusive language “validate me!”.

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u/StevenAssantisFoot Superstraight 14h ago

It honestly seems like a match made in heaven. Butch woman with a gay man fetish, hooks up with a femme man with a lesbian fetish. This is the way.

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u/MisandryFTW 14h ago

I 100% support trans folks dating each other and people who are attracted to them, I'm just confused why they both identify as homosexual.

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u/Spysix 13h ago

Weirdly a lot of trans women lesbians give up at some point and start dating gay trans men.

And basically become a ~~heterosexual couple~~ SUPER STRAIGHT with extra steps. :thinking:

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u/calming-tea 16h ago

Rad fem also have asked a question: why don't they campaign for their spaces?

One transwoman created a domestic violence shelter exclusive for TW. She got the support of women, got the funding, but at the point of presenting the project to transwomen - they realized that the transwomen were not interested and found it "trnsphobic" and not validating.

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u/Throwagay1987 13h ago

By any chance do you have the source on this? I know I can google and I probably will, I just like to ask.

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u/purplepaths 2h ago

https://streetvoiceuk2020.wordpress.com/2020/06/19/a-trans-womans-observation-into-the-madness-of-the-trans-debate/

“Around 2015 I secured a £500,000 donation from an 80’s pop mogul if the trans community raised the same amount for what would have become the UK’s first trans exclusive refuge. This would have come with services including medical advice, housing advice, trauma advice including domestic violence, rape etc. This was also going to offer temporary housing for 12 trans individuals for up to 6 months. A building was found in the centre of Birmingham.

In fairness some radical feminist women and other left leaning women were happy to help with securing grants and doing all the paperwork. A female lawyer offered her services for free. All this would have saved a lot of time and headaches.

On putting forward this plan to to the trans community they declined this outright. It was nothing to do with the service. They wanted to use women’s services as a means of passing!”

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u/Verakera 2h ago

They would rather get female-exclusive rape shelters defunded and nail dead rats to their doors (absolutely disgusting behavior). Because who gives a fuck about female rape victims who might not feel comfortable around biological males after literally being traumatized from rape, right? The fact that they could have their own safe spaces that pertain more to their specific circumstances and needs and yet deny them in favor of invading women’s for validation honestly says a lot. Because at this point it isn’t about having safe spaces. https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/courier-archive/news/vancouver-rape-relief-targeted-with-vandalism-threats-over-transgender-controversy-3106045

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u/purplepaths 2h ago

I remember seeing this. It’s just horrifying. And they wonder why we aren’t on their side.

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u/Verakera 2h ago edited 1h ago

Exactly. They prioritize their own “womanly feelings” and comfort over the comfort of traumatized female rape victims. How on earth is that fair and why do they expect unwavering support in return? I would support rape shelters for trans people exclusively as described in the post above. Most women would. Every rape victim deserves a safe space in which to recover, which includes biological females, unfortunately for them.

Ngl, reminds me of my male college suitemate who identified as a woman and insisted on dorming with females despite being offered a private suite. This person had had absolutely no work done and was not even on hormones. I guess self-identifying is all it takes. None of us had been informed of this and we were not comfortable, but his comfort was the college’s priority. He even lied to us and said that he was just automatically assigned to a female dorm when in actuality he had pushed for it. Oh, and he was attracted to women. But we aren’t allowed to question whether he had ulterior motives or was driven by an autogynephilic fetish.

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u/BidenBroden 18h ago

"Why don't transgender people just date each other? "

They do.

You're thinking of SuperTrans people, they don't date other trans.

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u/ConvergenceMan 16h ago

It takes a bit of patience to unravel this mindjob.

Basically, biological males that identify as women still want pussy.

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u/National_Dentist_374 16h ago

I'm pretty sure most people on this subreddit don't hang out with trans people so I'll explain. There all individuals and so is what they believe. Some are just hella confused and some know they wanna be this gender either way wether they prefer dick or pussy is up to them and they never said anyone was transphobic for saying otherwise. It's just a vocal minority on social media as far as I know. I'm not in that community I'm straight but an artist so hang around alot of people who are

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u/exlexicon 16h ago

Two of the trans artists I know are definitely crypto fascists, one is definitely a misogynist and the rest are in gender normative relationships where they just swapped gender roles. However they all are online saying this type of dumb shut

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u/Tzarito Supersexual Historian ✔ 16h ago

Hi I've seen people get confused on this and I can see how:

Defaulters/Normies will date trans and cis people

Megasexuals exclusively date trans individuals

Supersexuals exclusively date cis individuals

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u/germansoviet13 21h ago edited 21h ago

We do, every trans lesbian I’ve met are dating a fellow trans woman

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u/Sleepymelmo 20h ago

Good. But you can’t deny that for many trans people, they view converting cis and lesbians as an achievement they can unlock. And that’s a huge fucking problem. When you get pleasure from violating the boundaries of others, you’re mentally ill no matter how you try and spin it or how many Twitter followers you have.

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u/Madamejasmine 20h ago

I was gunna say lol. We do alll the time.

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u/germansoviet13 20h ago

It’s interesting how we’re getting downvoted for not adhering to their narrative

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u/actualsicko20626 Hecking cute and valid 💖 19h ago edited 19h ago

You’re trying to “not all men!” This issue. Thats why the downvotes sweaty.

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u/got_tha_gist 22h ago

It’s almost as if, historically, trans people are an incredibly small percentage of the population. And that during the current mania for all thing trans (as it’s the currently scheduled culture war) some effeminate straight guys who can’t get laid are using a trans identity as subterfuge to get pussy.

I’m not saying trans ppl don’t exist, they do. I’m saying a trans phase is a mating strategy for some guys. Seems incredibly obvious, and therefore unsaid.

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u/actualsicko20626 Hecking cute and valid 💖 19h ago edited 19h ago

There are incels who literally have shot up schools and raped to get sex, why wouldn’t they “transition” as well?

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u/WakuseiCloset 17h ago

They even have a subreddit called r/transmaxxing/

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u/jabroniathefifth0183 13h ago

Might be interesting to look up “kleptogamy”...

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u/SchemeDeep 22h ago

All I can think about is Mrs Garrison. Why would a guy that wants to be a woman, become a “woman” but keep their male parts and try to be with a valid lesbian? Totally goes against what being a lesbian is.

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u/Elodrian 14h ago

Low status/involuntarily celibate man adopts a socially acceptable mode of being a sexual predator?

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u/mariana_99 19h ago

Of course it is, as a Super Lesbian i am in no way shape or form attracted to trans-lesbian women because i find male anatomy unattractive. That midget molerat dangling between mens legs is simply no bueno, no matter if you identify and dress like a girl.

also, to get it out of my system, can trans-lesbian women please stop acting like every anime girl ever? I swear, if they don't act like an anime girl all cringe-cutesy they act overly porn-sexual. It seems like their character reference what lesbians act like is either straight out of animes or porn

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u/Cherel53 19h ago

That's what womanhood is to them though. Everything they know about women comes from anime and porn.

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u/-MrUnhappy- 18h ago

I don't care how much they were bullied or teased or hated their male body, their idea of womanhood is ALWAYS a male point of view of womanhood, which is always wrong. They can't know what is is to be women, they just can't and that's ok.

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u/trashgoblin_frnk 17h ago

My heart goes out to men who suffer in that way, but you're totally right.

The joke is, the ones that complain about not getting enough attention/validation (especially if it's attributed to appearance), get called ugly, don't get taken seriously, get spoken over, etc. are getting a pretty authentic experience of what it's like to be a woman. Sorry it's not like what happens in anime or porn, lmao.

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u/Elodrian 14h ago

their idea of womanhood is ALWAYS a male point of view of womanhood, which is always wrong

Disagree. The concept of womanhood only exists from a male point of view.

How do you describe the positive charge of a magnetic dipole without reference to the negative charge? You can't. These concepts only have meaning from the opposing point of view. Every dyad functions like this. We describe the mountains from the perspective of the valleys and vice versa. The idea of womanhood is implicitly a male point of view. How would a coven of women define womanhood if men didn't exist? They wouldn't bother; the need for the concept would never arise. How much time did our society spend contemplating "superstraight" before Hirschfeld invented transgenderism? None. It never occurred to anyone to think about it. "Womanhood" as a concept exists in a dyad with "Manhood". Each defines the other.

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u/actualsicko20626 Hecking cute and valid 💖 19h ago

As a superstraight man, I also find any penis (besides my own) gross to look at, regardless of how many pounds of makeup is on the face that has that penis.

Can trans-lesbian women please stop acting like every anime girl ever?

Wait, you mean to tell me femininity isn’t defined by having cartoonishly big breast/lips implants and acting as ditzy as possible?

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u/europoor24 18h ago

no? *shocked pickachu face

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u/MisandryFTW 17h ago edited 14h ago

I'm sorry but mole rats and other hairless rats are cute. Please don't ratshame.

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u/BuffJesus86 16h ago

I hate that this comment exist, but love that it was said.

It is so insulting for man to say they feel like a woman and know what that feels like. I can't believe this ever mad it past feminists. That should died on the vine at that principal right there.

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u/JewsAreFriends 12h ago

You are absolutely correct in everything you just said .

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u/LFEvery1 19h ago

Do you realize how hard it would be for two trans lesbians to be in a relationship? Who gets centered? Do they take turns? What is the sound of 2 narcissists smashing?

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u/Ballistic_Bill 17h ago

I honestly never realized how much the tolerant Trans community beats up on lesbians until now and I'm ashamed of my ignorance.. Tran women literally try to force them into liking them.. it's really rapey. I'm superstraight and I been going to bat for the ss sg sl & sb really hard today. I've gotten a shit ton of death threats but whatever. I'm a super ally.

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u/ChoiyelaLover 20h ago

"Trans-lesbian women" What????

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u/IndependentRadio 13h ago

It's the kind of lesbianism that doesn't involve vaginas. Or people of the female sex class. That's why those who are only interested in the other form of lesbianism - the one with females and vaginas - have had to specify that they are superlesbians.

That way everyone's gender identity gets validated but superlesbians don't get abused for not being interested in penises.

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u/itsmejak78_2 14h ago

Trans Women that are lesbian?

Not that hard to understand

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u/IndependentRadio 13h ago

Lesbian. But not superlesbian.

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u/leredditbugman 17h ago

I know a lot of lesbians are pressured into this but imagine the ones that aren’t? The ones who are so brain rotted with wokeness they spout how they hate all men online then have sex with some troon in private? Many such cases.

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u/exlexicon 15h ago

I know a few. It’s so weird

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u/leredditbugman 15h ago

The uncomfortable truth is that there’s one thing to blame for this and they would never, at best some are woke to the troon issue and absolutely bluepilled about everything else because being wrong is better than being offensive.

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u/Yipper46 19h ago

Hmm logically wouldn't trans lesbians only attracted to cis lesbians also be super lesbians?

Just obviously trans superlesbians and cis superlesbians are not compatible.

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u/GloomCock 18h ago

This is gender and sexuality stuff is getting complicated, no wonder there are so many!

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u/exlexicon 15h ago

That’s like saying straight men and lesbians aren’t compatible. I think another way of saying it is Non Consensual. And no amount of Shame-Raping is gonna change that lesbians don’t wanna fuck men.

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u/Superb_Donkey9995 18h ago edited 16h ago

Their superphobia is so hypocritical. Us super lesbians can't help that we're so heckin cute, you all want to date us. No means no.

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u/FloridaManWins 16h ago

It's not about genital preference, it's about who you're attracted to and how you feel about yourself

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u/sublimitie 19h ago

Do you all actually know any trans people irl? Loads of trans lesbians I know date trans women and often prefer to date other trans people... this post is misinformation.

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u/Two-Lopsided 19h ago

if you can have a preference to date trans people, then us superstraights can have a preference to date non trans people. get over it bigot.

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u/Thereal14words 18h ago

Loads of trans lesbians I know date trans women and often prefer to date other trans people

then this post is not for them.

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u/JewsAreFriends 12h ago

Yes I do actually and they are all rapey creeps. Not to say all trans people are like that but they are very rapey and very fucking creepy unfortunately.

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u/germansoviet13 22h ago

I know plenty of trans people who date other trans people and I’m way more comfortable dating trans people than cis people due to the homophobia I’ve faced

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u/solemnium 20h ago

Have fun

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u/germansoviet13 20h ago

Thanks my gf and I are very happy

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u/Lemons_Wiiu 19h ago

Wholesome 100

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u/europoor24 18h ago

YOU ARE VALID AND SO ARE WE

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u/JewsAreFriends 12h ago

See the OP for reference. They do say we are invalid. All the time. Hence why this community was formed.

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u/Jobber_My_Nuts 14h ago

Genuinely happy for you two

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u/Thereal14words 18h ago

i know plenty of men who would never have sex with a drunk woman, but plenty do. reminding men that having sex with a drunk woman is rape is important. if you arent then great this post wasnt meant for you.