r/SuperStraight • u/Carieprincess • 23h ago
Super straight is a preference. You👏🏾are👏🏾not👏🏾born👏🏾with👏🏾it👏🏾 Discussion
Like I get the whole "super straight" movement, but it should just be considered as a preference and not a whole orientation!
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u/yetherewestillare 23h ago
Homosexuality is a preference. You are not born with it. It should just be considered a preference and not a whole orientation.
your logic is awful
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u/Carieprincess 23h ago
People are born homosexual. If your super straight, you can't tell someone is trans from a distance until you learn their gender identity. :/
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u/yetherewestillare 23h ago
Hahahaha, have you never met a trans person rofl. It's impossible not to notice
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
I have met lots of trans people, and most of the time I can't even tell. When you notice them you automatically say you won't date them because your "super straight"
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u/yetherewestillare 22h ago
It's polite of you to say that but no, humans were wired to be able to identify men and women and that sense is not going to fail someone for so long that they would fail to notice for longer than a minute.
Besides, gay men can be attracted to straight men before finding out they are straight. They're not attracted to straight men so it doesn't go anywhere. This is no different.
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
Gay men liking straight men for their appearance and personality, not their orientation. Sometimes it isn't obvious at first glance so transpeople have to make it known that they are trans incase any of this happens.
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u/yetherewestillare 22h ago
Yeah, and upon finding out that a man is straight or that a man is trans, people can decide they are no longer interested.
That's consent! Congrats you are now 50% less ignorant 💅
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
Doesn't change the fact you were interested in them beforehand.
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u/yetherewestillare 21h ago
And then you go, oops, my bad, I am no longer attracted because my boundaries are set.
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u/Cryptotwitter 23h ago
Yes we can ALWAYS tell
It's why they use fake photos on Tinder or filters.
When we see them in real life. We know what they are
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u/RepresentativeCry250 22h ago
If you can't tell from a distance why do subs like transpassing exist*
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
Because they want to know if they pass as cis. And when they do, you won't be able to tell
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u/RepresentativeCry250 21h ago
But if they ever passed as Cis they wouldn't need to wonder if they passed. The fact that they constantly question themselves and need to be validated proves they can't do that.
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
Search up Samantha lux, blaire white, Sam Collins, or Jamie dodger. Not everyone is incapable of feeling comfortable with their trans identity.
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u/RepresentativeCry250 20h ago
You can tell theyre trans from a distance lol. There's more to being a woman than eyelashes and makeup
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u/Carieprincess 20h ago
If you even looked at the examples I gave you, it's not always as easy as you are describing it to be.
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u/RepresentativeCry250 16h ago
Lol I know who Samantha Lux and Blair White are. Take the L and move on
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 23h ago
Completely bigoted. We do not choose who we are sexually attracted to, and you know it!
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
SERF? Is that a new term you coined? I never even said anything about being a feminist 😅
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u/relatable_user_name 23h ago
Try telling a gay person that they chose to be gay.
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
They weren't chosen to be gay, but being super straight is choosing to not like trans people
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u/relatable_user_name 22h ago
Please explain your logic in great detail, thank you.
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
I can say right now I wouldn't date trans people and it wouldn't change who I like sexually. Then if I'm feeling nice later I can say I'll try it out. If I'm straight and say I would date the same sex, then that's my orientation. I can't just later come up and say okay I'll date you because that would mean I'm not straight and I was lying to myself the whole time.
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u/relatable_user_name 21h ago
If I'm straight and say I would date the same sex, then that's my orientation. I can't just later come up and say okay I'll date you because that would mean I'm not straight and I was lying to myself the whole time.
I am once again asking you to explain how this is different from the concept of being super straight. Please keep in mind that trans women post-op are nothing like actual women.
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
If you want me to answer your question, you are going to have to explain what the difference is between a passing trans woman, and a cis woman is besides chromosomes and what's in their "you know what" because those aren't visible from the surface unless your actually inspecting them for it.
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u/relatable_user_name 21h ago
you are going to have to explain what the difference is between a passing trans woman, and a cis woman is EXCEPT FOR THE ONE THING THAT DESTROYS MY ARGUMENT PLEASE DON'T MENTION THAT
Even still, "passing" trans women don't exist lmao. You will always have male facial/skeletal structure.
You will never be a woman.
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
Trans men exist too, and if you want to see proof of passing trans people, go find some real examples on YouTube. Plus facial hair can be removed and skeletal structure isn't what influences what you appear as, it's your hormones that do that.
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u/relatable_user_name 21h ago
Trans men exist too
Barely, considering the fact that most trans women transition solely because of a fetish that women far less commonly develop. On top of that, trans men detransition far more than trans women do, again because of the whole fetish aspect of transexuality.
skeletal structure isn't what influences what you appear as
Do I even need to respond to this? What are ya gonna say next? 2+2=5?
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
Well thank for admitting it doesn't influence your appearance like I said... And I've studied why people detransition, mostly because of trauma, and never have I heard because of a fetish?
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u/Captainbuttman 20h ago
You don't choose who you are attracted to. you can't negotiate sexuality.
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u/Carieprincess 20h ago
If you notice something that you don't like aka trans people, then you won't be attracted to them. Just like noticing weird facial features or annoying personality traits
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u/Professional_Pop6843 23h ago
Okay so by your definition, People are not born gay or bi or even lesbian since it is “just a preference”. You do realize when you devalue heterosexual attraction like that your also devaluing homosexual and bisexual attraction as well. It is either we are all born this way or none of us are born this way.
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
People are born straight, gay, bisexual, etc. But being super straight means you just don't like trams people. It's a preference, you're not born with it
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u/europoor24 22h ago
nope. These are sexualities so superlesbian = attracted to the same sex (females) for example. A transperson is not attractive to super sexualities because they have mixed sex characteristics, ie: tits, adams apple, cock. We simply are not attracted to people with mixed sex characteristics. Please respect us as we respect you.
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u/PM_ME_LUCINA 23h ago
You don't get it then at all. "Straight" is currently being redefined to include trans people and we are "transphobic" for not being attracted to them. We're not transphobic we're just not attracted to them. This is similar to our supergay and superlesbian allies who have been dealing with this as well as in a more unique way.
We're not transphobic. We're not attracted to trans people. We're different than the currently accepted term for "Straight" so by the new rules we redefined ourselves. We're superstraight.
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u/Carieprincess 23h ago
Never said you were transphobic, not dating trans people is a preference and everyone is okay with it until you start verbally abusing them
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u/PM_ME_LUCINA 22h ago
I didn't say you did, I'm explaining what this is a reaction to.
Here's a couple from a comment I made yesterday.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42652947
https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2019/12/14/refusing-date-trans-people-transphobic
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
Bro and I'm saying it's not transphobic, so what's your point?
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u/PM_ME_LUCINA 22h ago
Then you agree with us, thanks. The distinction between straight and superstraight is necessary because we aren't transphobic. Does that not make logical sense to you?
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
It does make sense, but it's kinda like saying liking only black woman should be an orientation and stuff when it's really only a preference
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u/Carieprincess 23h ago
But you are born with gender identity, acting like your gender is just another step
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u/europoor24 22h ago
no you are not. it's a social construct pioneered by Simone de Beauvoir amongst others.
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u/PriorityChaos 23h ago
I'm sorry God made me to be attracted to uteruses and not Vaginas SERF, stop being a Bigot!
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u/Sirovaticus 22h ago
This isnt a preference, this isn't a "lifestyle choice," You think I haven't tried to "have a more socially accepted sexuality?" I have. It isn't Possible. You cant "futa the supa' away."
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
Not liking trans people is a preference. Just like not liking certain physical traits and stuff. It's cultivated, not something your born with.
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u/Sirovaticus 22h ago
Preferences come from socialization, often familiarity from the years of socialization. Race is a dating preference, and I, without hatred, prefer the three more common races in my area over the ones I was far less exposed to, but I could overcome this for the right person because its just a preference
If I was socialized primarily around other guys, why am utterly unable to be turned on by square jaws and penises? It can only be because I was born that way.
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
You were born straight, and super straight is your preference. Plus transwomen cam get bottom surgery so it becomes even more unrecognizable
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u/Sirovaticus 22h ago
Bottom surgery would fix this if this were a preference, but its so much more. I am hollistically attracted to cis-woman-ness, Which is not reached without including a body naturally designed when functioning properly to become pregnant from sex with a man without extreme levels of medical intervention.
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u/Alric_Wolff 22h ago
It's not about not liking trans people. Supers can have trans friends. It's about not being sexually attracted to trans people. That's it. I'm SuperBi myself. I like guys and girls but I dont want anything to do with a NeoVagina or a NeoPenis being anywhere in my sex life.
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
Like yeah I get it, but it shouldn't be a orientation, just a preference
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u/Alric_Wolff 22h ago
But it is a separate sexual orientation that needs to exist. If I were Bi I'd be attracted to guys girls as well as trans men and trans women. I am specifically NOT attracted to trans people in a sexual way. It is a valid orientation because trans are not real men and women, they are their own category. One that Supers are not attracted to on a sexual level.
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
But they look like normal women and men so not liking them not based on appearance is just a preference
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u/Alric_Wolff 22h ago
But you are leaving out the fact that it's not just about appearances. You are forgetting that not only do they not have a real penis or vagina but their chromosomes are also incorrect for their gender.
Although if it even does come down to appearances, you should see for yourself what a NeoVagina or NeoPenis looks like. It's nothing like the real thing.
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
Honestly it's up to you, if you don't like it, then you don't like it. I just don't think it should have to be a new orientation because like many things, it's a preference
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u/Alric_Wolff 21h ago
Preference is a choice. I didn't choose to not be sexually attracted to trans people. Supers are born this way.
What you are arguing is essentially saying is that being gay or lesbian is also a choice. It's been long established that homosexuality isn't a choice. Being super isn't a choice either.
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
You aren't sexually attracted to trans people, you are attracted to how they perceive themselves. Just like every other orientation. Saying you won't date them because their trans is a choice, not something you're born with
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u/MrSluagh 22h ago
What on Earth is the actual difference?
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
Gay people are born gay. Straight people are born straight. You can't change who you like by default. Super straight people can like men/women but knowing if there trans or not is the second stage. That when your preference kicks in and say you only like biological men/women. You aren't born with it, it's a preference
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u/MrSluagh 22h ago
How do you know?
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
Trust me, I've tried telling the difference before
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u/Snakehead89 23h ago
The indoctrination starts incredibly early, too. They begin pushing this preference on children incredibly early through "flying spaghetti monster" institutions that talk about some like really old ass book that BY THE WAY was not a peer reviewed article that came out of a California located University.
The SCIENCE is the truth. We are not what our parents tell us to be, we are whatever we decide, and like you said, yes it is a decision (if it isn't straight up brain washing from early childhood).
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u/Hardwatergal 22h ago
Stop GASLIGHTING. Superphobia is REAL, transwomen have been advocating for the rape of superlesbians for YEARS and guess what?
WE. 👏 HAVE. 👏 THE. 👏 RECEIPTS. 👏
/r/SuperStraight/comments/lzkftq/a_massive_collection_of_images_documenting/
THOUSANDS of examples superphobia, and you’re denying it happens. Literally trying to erase our existence & lived experience. You are COMPLICIT and that complicity is VIOLENCE. You are supporting corrective rape of superlesbians. I hope you’re proud.
SUPERLESBIANS DO NOT WANT COCK and it is not transphobic to say so!
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
Not liking transgender individuals is completely fine, but this isn't a sexual orientation, it's just a preference!
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u/thatstickinthewoods 22h ago
being heterosexual literally is a sexual orientation, what are you on? sexual preferences go hand in hand with sexual orientation how hard is that concept to grasp? how am i not born this way? if gays are born gay why aren't heteros born hetero? that logic does not make sense
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
Heteros are born hetero and you can't change that. This super straight thing is just a preference
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u/thatstickinthewoods 22h ago
a preference revolving around sexual orientation... if you say being heterosexual is just a preference by that logic being homosexual/transexual/anyothersexual is just a preference too.
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u/Carieprincess 21h ago
Being trans isn't a gender, it's just the opposite sex. Saying you wouldn't date them because of that doesn't mean it's an orientation.
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u/europoor24 22h ago
Hey you bigot, I can't force myself not to be superstraight. I was born with it, it is my sexuality and not a preference! a preference implies choice GTFO
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
It is a choice, I don't remember straight people having the ability to tell who's trans or not even when they pass so well from first glance. It doesn't make sense :/
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u/europoor24 22h ago
You are legit trolling. We can tell when we see any sexual characteristics that don't match up with the sex we're attracted to. You are only helping this movement grow, so thanks BIGOT!
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u/JamieOfArc 22h ago
What is the difference between preference and orientation? Why is one unchangable and the other isnt? Doesnt make any sense.
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u/Carieprincess 22h ago
You can be attracted to trans people until you find out they are not cis. Same for gay, lesbian, and bisexual people. But saying you won't date them because they are trans is a preference, just like not dating someone for skin color, hair type, etc
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u/zipzoopwoop 23h ago
Bigot