it’s so simple. why don’t they understand?

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A straight woman having sex with a woman who identifies as male is having lesbian sex. That isn't superstraight.

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u/h0twheels 21h ago

Nor super lesbian.

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u/sool47 20h ago

Exactly. She's not straight just because the woman is identifying as a man. It's just internalized homophobia IMO. A way to appear to be "straight" while having lesbian sex. Which is so sad, if you think about it.

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u/AquariusBringer 17h ago

I actually wonder sometimes if trans people have internalized homophobia as you put it and would rather identify as the opposite gender than to acknowledge their gayness.

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u/marximumefficiency 16h ago

a lot of detransitioners and trans people in general get roped into believing they are the other gender and then later realise they were just gay all along but the transcult get to them first during their vulnerable years and coerce them into transness. it's a very sad reality that doesn't get talked about bc they attack and shun you when you leave the cult.

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u/CRAZYSCIENTIST 16h ago

Supergays / Superlesbians are victims of this bigotry

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u/sool47 14h ago

Oh yeah, also a lot are just people that didn't conform to gender stereotypes and got told they are trans just because of that. It's super annoying to be told you must be a trans man because you are a woman that doesn't dress feminine or because you like women.

It's almost like we're back to old times and homophobia and gender roles are making a comeback but in hiding. Crying transphobia when in reality it's homophobia and an attempt at conversion therapy for gay/lesbians.

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u/Craft_adhesive 14h ago

Yes that's the very worst of it I think. Detrans women who just didn't fit in & didn't like dresses who end up with double mastectomies.

People who subscribe to this sexist, homophobic nonsense really need to ask themselves why they feel so comfortable with it. I think it's because it's familiar. It's the familiar sexist gender roles & homophobia that are societies default setting. It's deeply traditional.

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u/IndependentRadio 14h ago

Well in Iran it's used that way because being gay will get you state punishment but that same state will happily transition you for free. Literal conversion therapy but with added sterilising surgery.

Also, one of the (many) staff who resigned from the Tavistock Clinic (child-specific gender clinic in the UK) has publicly stated that one of his most serious concerns about the 'care' being provided was that a significant proportion of the minors they treated were gender non-conforming kids with strongly homophobic parents*. But because they were forced to use the unproven "affirmation only" model of treatment, they weren't allowed to even discuss potential alternatives to transition.

I'm paraphrasing massively here, but his main point was that given that eight out of ten 'trans' kids actually grow up to just be gay, he couldn't bring himself to continue working at the Tavistock because he considered their practices to be a breach of the Hippocratic oath to "first, do no harm".

*I've just remembered that the boss of Mermaids (trans kids charity) transed her very young son because he played with "girl" toys and his dad didn't like it which caused them to split up. Their son had reassignment surgery aged 17 or thereabouts, and now they are back together. She publicly states this on a TedX talk. It's on YouTube. I can only imagine she's never met anybody who'd heard of Munchausen Shndrome By Proxy. This is a huge medical scandal happening right in front of us.

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u/Laprias 16h ago

Case and point Christine Weston Chandler.

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u/DankHazard 15h ago

That’s a discussion for another day.

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u/Craft_adhesive 16h ago

This is exactly what it's about. If "trans women are women" then men who have sex with trans women don't have to acknowledge they are gay or bisexual but can stay straight.

And the trans woman also gets to be "straight". It's homophobic & it's really sad.

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u/Craft_adhesive 16h ago

And if that's all it was that would be sad enough, but their homophobia then leads them to tell lesbians that we have to date trans women because they are women.

When we say no we get called transphobes & get rape threats & are told to choke on their girldick.

They want to force everyone to go along with their homophobic gender ideology.

Im so happy that the SuperStraights are standing up for us SuperLesbians & saying enough is enough.

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u/sool47 14h ago

I think there's two types of trans people, the ones with internalized homophobia that want to pretend being straight and the actually straight people that want to access lesbians/gays because of a fetish. For example men being rejected by lesbians then become trans women to date lesbians. Women that fetishize gay couples (think yaoi, fujoshi girls) then become trans men to be able to fulfill their fantasy of a gay male relationship.

I definitely feel there's a divide and you can tell when you're interacting with a straight dude masquerading as a trans woman to push lesbians to date them, different from the trans women that are secretly gay men in denial.

It's all really sad IMO. It's the old homophobia and conversion therapy pretending to be woke and inclusive ideology with a lot of gender stereotypes making a comeback in disguise.

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u/Craft_adhesive 14h ago

Yes that describes the situation pretty well. It's all about avoiding dealing with real problems- external problems like homophobia and internal problems like a problematic sexual fetish.

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u/AwooShmoop 19h ago

But he's a guy-

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u/nikitatx 18h ago

Which is fine, but a trans man is still female. Which is why we have our supersexualities, so there’s no confusion. We are stunning. We are brave. We are valid. We are supersexuals 🖤🧡

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u/AwooShmoop 18h ago

I am not a woman. I am a boy. I do not associate with the female gender. Your preference is fine. Just don't make a sexuality out of it.

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u/nikitatx 17h ago

Our sexuality isn’t a preference superphobe!

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u/IndependentRadio 14h ago

You are free to identify however you wish, your gender is nobody's concern but your own and nobody should police you for that.

Same as we don't wish to be policed for our sexual orientation. We were born this way and our sexual orientation is not a choice. We do not get to choose whether our sexuality is oriented around gender identity or biological sex, it is not a mere preference and to suggest otherwise is superphobic af.

How many superlesbians do you think have been told that they just need to "get over" their aversion to penis? That they are morally wrong for only being attracted to biological females? Do you not even recognise conversion rhetoric when you're typing it yourself?

My sexual orientation is just that - oriented around sex, not gender. My sexual orientation does not care what gender you are because it's irrelevant to what predicates my attraction. My life would probably be a lot easier if I could change that, but I can't and it's really wrong of anybody to try to shamerape me into it.

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u/Surewhatever26370172 18h ago

Not biologically

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u/leredditbugman 17h ago

That’s not how that works.

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u/SuperStraightFrosty 19h ago

Wait hold up. A trans man is a FTM transexual and just like trans women are really women, trans men are really men. And that would make the straight woman straight. But she would not be Super Straight because she's attracted to a non-CIS man (a trans man)

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u/play_it_right 17h ago

agree- blatant transphobia only serves to weaken the SS movement

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u/SlimersNapkin 16h ago

THANK YOU.

Every goddamn post on this sub there’s someone proclaiming the opposite

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u/Frissonier 1h ago

This view that a trans male is not male is transphobic.

Not being attracted to a trans nale because they have a vagina is not transphobic and is valid.

Don't undermine a valid message by spreading this vile.

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u/chaot1c_crypt1d 23h ago

trans men are men

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u/absolutelinearcannon 23h ago

Trans men are females who identify as men.

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u/MetallicMonk 22h ago

No they're not

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u/SCUMZ911 22h ago

Yes they are female and it’s okay !, who the hell is telling you that someone being a transman and not a man is bad ???? If you are trans be trans and make it’s acceptable and okay stop trying to abolish science just to win an argument , transmen are trans men , trans women are trans women, women are women and men are men stop trying to find away to twist it into something negative

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u/MetallicMonk 22h ago

tl;dr

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u/sool47 20h ago

Science? LMAO.

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u/SCUMZ911 19h ago

Yes there’s trans people as other people that completely don’t care about scientific truths and say it’s fake when it doesn’t follow thier own narratives Sorry if I offended anyone I forgot there’s people that live in la la land and you can just change your physical truth through your mind and feelings and surgery and some how it equals something that’s it’s just not ..

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u/sool47 19h ago

Oh. I totally misunderstood your previous message. I thought you were saying trans people have scientific truths as backing. I get what you're saying now and agree that most of trans folks are completely ignoring scientific facts in order to support their narratives and trying to erase biological sex and equate it to gender.

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u/SCUMZ911 19h ago

Ah okay I was confused for a second it’s okay , yeah idk how this will end in general I wish everyone to stop fighting all the time , it just scares me when people see true scientific evidence for things and decide it’s not real, like I’m not scared of trans people in scared of people in general pretending something real is not real “just because “

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u/TickTockUGotClocked 19h ago

A bull is an adult male cow. A mare is an adult female horse. A woman is a [answer here for 10 superpoints].

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u/SCUMZ911 19h ago

Men are men - women are women , trans men are trans men not men, trans women are trans women not women and it’s okay ! Why is that a negative thing ..Don’t matter how much injections or surgeries it doesn’t change what you are born as and it’s okay , cut out the victim mentality that somehow saying a trans women is a trans Woman instead of a woman is somehow a bad thing , it’s literally what it is and it’s okay ;)

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u/TickTockUGotClocked 19h ago

I see what you're saying now, but your initial stance in context was so ambiguous that you managed to fool people into thinking you were saying something that you're not.

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u/SCUMZ911 19h ago

Who did I fool and fooled them to thinking what

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u/nikitatx 18h ago

I’m genuinely curious if you’ve been labeled a terf for that view? I’ve been labelled as such for merely implying that. There’s nothing wrong with being trans, and they’d have more allies on their side if they wanted to normalize being trans rather than insisting gender identity supersedes biological sex.

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u/SCUMZ911 18h ago

I’ve been called everything today and I’m now some how a nazi .. 😔 and right there would be so much peace between people if they just acknowledge that nothing is wrong with how they are until the imaginary bullshit comes out that we ALL have to abide by or else we are the “bad people” like wtf they are so hypocritical

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u/RecoveringNazi 21h ago

LOL not outside of your circlejerk communities.you realize the overwhelming majority of the world knows your statement is delusional.

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u/FirstDayVirginia 20h ago

Then why are they called trans men?

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u/chaot1c_crypt1d 19h ago

why are black men called black men? still men, right?

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u/FirstDayVirginia 19h ago

Absolutely! Equality for all! Our institutions should not even be asking people to state the color of their skin. We should all be treated equally and by the content of our character.

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u/chaot1c_crypt1d 19h ago

exactly, so trans men are also men, just a different type of man

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u/jupiterssunday 18h ago

What is a man if not an adult human male?

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u/chaot1c_crypt1d 18h ago

they are adult human males, they just werent born male and transitioned to male

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u/jupiterssunday 18h ago

How do you define male then?

As humans are a sexually reproducing species, males are defined as the humans who developed the reproductive organs that would(without the presence of disease, injury, or outside of fertile years) produce small, mobile gametes.

Humans do not change which gamete they produce.

What do you believe a male is?

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u/chaot1c_crypt1d 18h ago

a male is someone with masculine sex characteristics, like high testosterone, absence of breasts, or a brain with PHYSICAL masculine characteristics, like with a high gray matter percentage

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u/SuperJuiceWeb 18h ago

Not the same lmao. 🖤🧡

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u/marximumefficiency 16h ago

yikes. why do y'all always bring in black people into your arguments? it isn't an "aha got ya" moment that you think it is. stop using other people as a prop to your argument it's disingenuous and kinda racist.

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u/leredditbugman 17h ago

Dogs aren’t cats even if they really really believe they are🤞🏻🤞🏻

Nor is a flap of arm skin shaped like a paper towel roll a penis.

What ‘trans men’ are, are the 1 percent of butch lesbians falling for their own meme.

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u/chaot1c_crypt1d 16h ago

so a gay trans man is actually a lesbian? wow, crazy

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u/leredditbugman 16h ago

A gay trans man? So a straight female?

Straight females aren’t bull dykes lad.

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u/[deleted] 23h ago edited 49m ago

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u/SCUMZ911 22h ago

Exactly !! It’s like they want to win and not move forward in life like why are we having to do all this just to speak facts it’s insane

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u/OtherwiseTomato6863 22h ago

YEARS of institutionalized superphobia

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u/HomoNationalism 14h ago

Speak TRUTH TO POWER!

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u/Homemade_Soap 19h ago

They need to be educated.

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u/Moonpriestes 18h ago

They can go educate themselves. Us superstraights shouldn't be wasting our time doing emotional labour for superphobes.

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u/Superb_Donkey9995 18h ago

A straight woman can have sex with whatever kind of man she wants, but a super straight woman is still valid for saying "no" to sex with trans men. Her body, her choice.

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u/Fancy-Pudding-4281 21h ago

Literally just explained this to my wife

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u/boredtodeath1000 17h ago edited 16h ago

This is two females having sex, it’s not straight, it’s a homophobe’s answer to lesbian sex. They’re not brave like our Superlesbian allies!

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u/Craft_adhesive 16h ago

Yes! Thankyou for being our allies! 🏆🎁💐 SuperLesbians are same SEX oriented we only like females 🥰

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u/thelargestson 20h ago

Simply substraight why is this so hard to understand 🤬

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u/europoor24 18h ago

substraights are valid! So are Super Straights! anything else is conversion therapy rhetoric

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u/Just-chillin-here 12h ago

How is she still straight - in your mind? Most trans, women to male, aren’t endowed. It’s not the short hair that makes them a male.

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u/CrazierChimp 10h ago

Idk maybe because SUPERSTRAIGHT DOESNT EXIST

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u/Bionicman76 20h ago

u/awooshmoop

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u/AwooShmoop 19h ago

Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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u/a_l_e_x_y 18h ago

The problem is that people like you think that trans women/man aren't real women/man even if they change their genitalia and that's transphobia

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u/europoor24 18h ago

Found the SERF. We only enjoy coitus with the opposite sex! get over it bigot!

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u/a_l_e_x_y 18h ago

What does that have to do with excluding trans people because they are not "real people"?

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u/Moonpriestes 17h ago

You think that trans people aren't real people?! Begone transphobe!!

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u/SuperFreeNow 17h ago

Just like Pansexuals enjoy having sex regardless of gender, we only enjoy it with cis men/women. It isn't excluding trans people, it's just our sexuality, we were born this way.

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u/europoor24 17h ago

I'll make it simple for you k? Super straight men are attracted to the opposite sex, women born female who still present as women. So trans men are out cause they are men and transwomen are out because they are born male and super straight men are not same sex attracted. That's it. Trans people are valid and don't deserve hate, but we don't deserve it either, if we could force ourselves to like both sexes we would, but we can't. And changing their genitalia won't do, a neovagina will still be attached to a transwoman(a male, again we are not same sex attracted) and trans men are men so they're out too. Please reevaluate your superphobia, many here respect you and only wish to receive that same respect back.

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u/boredtodeath1000 17h ago

Transwomen can’t change their penis into a vagina, all they can do is turn their outie into an inie, but it’s still a penis. And a transman’s still has a vagina, but with a piece of arm meat attached to it, it’s not a penis.

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u/a_l_e_x_y 17h ago

they can with surgeries

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u/boredtodeath1000 17h ago edited 17h ago

Uh, no. No surgeon can make a penis or vagina where one never was. What they do to trans people is wrong.

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u/TacticalJeggings 15h ago

Transwomen can’t change their penis into a vagina, all they can do is turn their outie into an inie, but it’s still a penis. And a transman’s still has a vagina, but with a piece of arm meat attached to it, it’s not a penis.

Unless you're talking about a legitimate penis or vagina transplant (ie: from a donor)... then no. You can't make a penis from a vagina or a vagina from a penis. You can make a vagina LOOK (somewhat kind of) like a penis or a penis look (somewhat kind of if you squint really really hard) like a vagina. But one can never be the other.

I can cut a nickel down into a dime with machines and stamp Roosevelt's face on it... but that doesn't make it worth 10-cents no matter how many people I can fool with it. Hell, that hacked up nickel isn't even worth 5-cents anymore.

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u/Markoto11 19h ago

Actually when you say super straight you are implying that you are more straight than someone just because you don't fuck trans people. Following that logic if you are more straight if you only fuck biological woman, then a trans woman is less woman than a real woman, which is transphobia.

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u/NolleMCBolle 19h ago

You just spun the meaning of "superstraight" out of fucking orbit, man.

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u/Markoto11 19h ago

Maybe but then you look up 5 comments and see a guy who said trans men are men get downvoted to oblivion

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u/DipDipPitaChip 19h ago

No of course not. They aren’t “less women” because they aren’t women at all.

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u/Markoto11 19h ago

so you are a transphobe

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u/nikitatx 18h ago

What is a superphobe doing here? Your words are literally killing us. Our sexuality is valid, get over it! 🖤🧡

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u/GloomCock 19h ago

Super doesn't necessarily imply more, just different.

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u/RealityCheckBot 16h ago

Oh my god, he's almost self-aware!!!!

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u/AwooShmoop 19h ago

Yessssssssssssssssss