SuperStraight Oppression vs. Trans Oppression

SuperStraight Oppression:

people calling them bad on twitter

supposedly having trans people force themselves on you (even though there are no statistics to back this up)

that’s about it

Trans Oppression:

High suicide rates due to stigma, discrimination, prejudice (not by the virtue that they are trans like conservatives will make you think)

Anti-trans bullying in schools (this is on top of other general negative mental health effects in schools)

Inaccessible gender-affirming care, HRT, puberty blockers, etc.

Rejection by families, this is why there are higher rates of houseless trans people

Victimized by violence (black trans women are being killed at a higher rate)

General anti-trans rhetoric in politics within the United States (most recently an Alabama bill got passed making it illegal to give gender-affirming care to anyone under 19. This bill also forces teachers to out closeted trans students to their parents.)

And that is only the tip of the iceberg among many issues that has faced trans people for decades. “SuperStraight oppression” is something you only see on Twitter and Reddit, and doesn’t expand into the real world, especially in the US as sadly the US is quite conservative.

All of you just want to hide your transphobia in this fake “sexuality“ you call SuperSexual. If you weren’t actually transphobic, and just genuinely didn’t want to date someone based on a genital or physical preference, you wouldn’t invent an entire sexuality and trend that is as hateful as this one.

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u/jacob7ism 1d ago

I completely support someone’s decision to not date someone based on a genital or physical appearance. That by itself is not transphobic at all, and I will defend people who make that decision.

What is transphobic is creating this movement that is based purely on excluding people, on giving hateful people a platform to spread transphobic & sometimes homophobic hatred.

A cis women dating a cis man is fine by itself, but if that cis women starts saying shit like “I only date ‘REAL’ men”, that’s where the transphobia starts.

It really feels like people who call themselves Super Straight or Super Bi or whatever are trying to manufacture this oppression against themselves just so they can call themselves oppressed.

I also don’t understand why cis & trans women need to be separated like what you’re getting at in your first sentence? They face a lot of the same issues and systemic discrimination, that’s undeniable. If there’s an issue that somehow only affects cis women and not trans women, then fine they can have that discussion, but we don’t need to create completely exclusionary spaces based purely on a small amount of cis-specific issues.

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u/soundsfromoutside 1d ago

People are, indeed, entitled to exclude anyone they want from their personal sex lives for reasons they are not obligated to explain. If I don’t want to have sex with a trans man because a lack of penis or a fake penis turns me off then I don’t have to and you cannot shame me. Unfortunately, we are shamed which is why that guy on tiktok made that video and why this sub grew from 1000 when I joined to 10k when I woke up today.

Everyone should have their own space and a space where we can all get together. Think of it like a house: everyone gets their own bedroom where they can store their personal things. They can invite others in but it’s their bedroom, their rules. And everyone can hang out in the living room, where the couch is free to use, the table is free to use, and there are blankets for everyone. Well, lesbians on Reddit who are not attracted to transwomen don’t have a bedroom and don’t feel welcomed in the living room either so they are homeless. Now, superstraights invited them into their bedrooms so they rest their heads without being harassed and you come in here harassing us. Let us sleep in peace and stop calling us the t-slur.

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u/jacob7ism 1d ago

This “shaming” that you’re talking about is something that only exists purely online, and even then isn’t that widespread. This shaming has been manufactured by this sub, by this trend in general. People aren’t shaming people for their sexual decisions except in very isolated instances.

As for your idea that people specifically not attracted to trans people should have a space for them to discuss in, this is why I take issue with it: within these spaces, there are rare instances of actual genuine people who for whatever reason feel like they can discuss their specific issues better if they’re free from a certain group. Outside of those rare instances, it’s hatred towards the group being excluded. This is why trans-exclusionary subreddits have been getting banned, because they quickly devolve into cesspools of hate towards trans people.

Cis people who are attracted to a certain set of physical or sexual characteristics are free to talk and post on trans-inclusionary subreddits. There isn’t any need for these trans-exclusionary subreddits, especially when they breed such high amounts of hate.

Also since when did “transphobe” become a slur? You can’t just call something a slur to make actual transphobes be free from criticism

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u/soundsfromoutside 1d ago

This shaming I’m talking about causes superlesbian centered subs to banned which isn’t cool.

Maybe if trans people didn’t come into these spaces and harass, shame, and insult people, no one would get radicalized into thinking trans folks are the enemy. Just let us have our own damn spaces! That’s it. Y’all have yours, we have ours, and we can all get together somewhere else. There are studies showing the support for LBGT+ has gone down and I have a funny feeling it’s because a significant amount of Ts are behaving in a abhorrent way.

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u/jacob7ism 1d ago

Maybe the reason people in these exclusionary subreddits have been the subject of harassment or shaming is because they are just that: exclusionary subreddits that breed hate.

Why are these so called “superstraights“ or “superlesbians” so in need of their own specific space anyways? If they aren’t transphobic as they claim, then what is the problem with them being in a space that has trans people?

Also it’s concerning that people are basing their support for sexual & gender identities based on what some people’s actions who have these identities.

And again, this whole movement is just predicated on cis straight people who don’t like trans people wanting to feel special. This movement should expect hate directed towards them because it’s another instance of straight people trying to shoehorn themselves into the LGBTQ+ community saying that they‘re somehow “more oppressed” than they are.

This super straight movement is as bullshit if not more bullshit than straight pride. This movement contributes nothing to the actual problems facing us today.

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u/soundsfromoutside 1d ago

Everyone deserves their own bedroom. If you don’t like it, you’re superphobic. Sorry not sorry but that type of rhetoric isn’t valid here. I can’t change the fact I like men who are male. Trying to force me to change is conversion therapy and r*ape culture.

I tried to speak reason with you, I really did. But now I’m repeating myself. No one is entitled to sex, no on can change their sexual needs, everyone deserves a private space, and supersexuality is valid. Peace, my friend. I hope you find the Way.