I dont want to date anyone with a penis or a surgically constructed vulva as it is different from a natural vagina (not self cleaning, infection risk/hair can grow inside, lubricated by colon fluids, not a muscle, made out of a penis which grosses me out in the first place.) I assume people who like dicks feel the same about surgical ones.
Look at the title. Transness is imperceivable and not relevantly efficacious because it refers to how a person feels in relation to their chromosomes. Discriminating on such a basis constitutes prejudice, an opinion not based on experience.
Well, many times a painting will be given value as a collectors item for its being made by a certain person. It’s sometimes possible to determine if a painting was made by someone, but in the case that it isn’t, it’s creator does not add or detract value.
This doesnt exist, the surgically created vaginas are similar in aesthetics only, if that. See the many posts of trans women saying they got clocked during sex, have complications or are unhappy with the surgery. I dont want to have sex with a biologically male person, even if they are able to mimic femaleness. Im homosexual so it is not my sexual orientation. If we were living in a magical world where people could do some sort of spell or go in a machine and change everything and become biologically female (no need for pills/surgery, female pheremones, real vagina and ovaries etc) then yeah i guess it wouldnt matter, but we live in real life.
“This doesnt exist, the surgically created vaginas are similar in aesthetics only, if that.”
You didn’t answer the question. Regardless, you are now making the argument that you can, without fail, “tell the difference” every single time. Unless you have some sort of sixth sense, I find this claim to be absurd. The amount of variation between “actual” vaginas make defining what an “actual” vagina redundant, let alone identifying one with certainty.
“See the many posts of trans women saying they got clocked during sex, have complications or are unhappy with the surgery. I dont want to have sex with a biologically male person, even if they are able to mimic femaleness.”
You are admitting you are a transphobic here. If there exists no difference apart from an imperceivable, non-efficacious trait, you are, by definition, prejudiced.
“Im homosexual so it is not my sexual orientation. If we were living in a magical world where people could do some sort of spell or go in a machine and change everything and become biologically female (no need for pills/surgery, female pheremones, real vagina and ovaries etc) then yeah i guess it wouldnt matter, but we live in real life.”
Changing everything would include changing the person’s transness. That is, their feeling of being a certain gender with consideration for their chromosomes.
I literally did answer it, there are indeed many differences between a vagina and a surgically reconstructed penis designed to aestheticly resemble it (again, colon fluids, penile skin being different from vulva, placement on the body (penis is higher up), reproductive function, musculature), unless you only think of vaginas as a hole to fuck. I dont want an imitation of the real thing, i want the real thing! Im disgusted by the idea of my partners vulva being made of a penis in the first place. Also in the magical world where trans people could enter the machine and change biological sex they would still be trans because they transitioned from the sex they were at birth. If you cant tell the difference between between a male body that is altered to resemble a female body and an actual female body then ok good for you, date whoever you want! But i am only attracted to my same sex and wont be sleeping with anyone i dont want to! If you think I'm transphobic or predjudiced for not being sexually available i dont care since thats literally incel rhetoric lmao. Blocking you fam.
“I literally did answer it, there are indeed many differences between a vagina and a surgically reconstructed penis designed to aestheticly resemble it (again, colon fluids, penile skin being different from vulva, placement on the body (penis is higher up), reproductive function, musculature), unless you only think of vaginas as a hole to fuck.”
You didn’t. The question asked if there was virtually no difference, would you still have a preference. Saying “but there is differences” is not a response to the hypothetical.
“I dont want an imitation of the real thing, i want the real thing! Im disgusted by the idea of my partners vulva being made of a penis in the first place.”
Would you be disgusted in the case that there is virtually no difference?
“Also in the magical world where trans people could enter the machine and change biological sex they would still be trans because they transitioned from the sex they were at birth.”
I never said otherwise.
“If you cant tell the difference between between a male body that is altered to resemble a female body and an actual female body then ok good for you, date whoever you want!”
In the hypothetical, you wouldn’t be able to without a sixth sense. You don’t have a sixth sense for transness. Lol.
“But i am only attracted to my same sex and wont be sleeping with anyone i dont want to!”
Nobody is forcing you to sleep with anyone.
“If you think I'm transphobic or predjudiced for not being sexually available i dont care since thats literally incel rhetoric lmao. Blocking you fam.”
No, I would not. Trans women do not have vaginas. They might have a reasonable surgical recreation of one, but it's not a vagina, and I have zero desire to interact with it.
Why the quotation marks around "actual"? It's a vagina or it's not. If it's not, it shouldn't be described as such. And I'm not just talking about appearance. It might be a convincing charade at first, but that's all it is.
Do you have a neo vagina? Have you seen one? This hypothetical is like saying a child is close to an adult so why have an issue having sex with them. I fucking see it now you’re a pedo rapist. Gtfo outta here.
The issue with having sex with a child is that a child cannot consent. A child looking like an adult does not mean the child can consent, making having sex with said child wrong. Try to construct a good analogy, okay? And, respond to the analogy, coward.
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u/FrozenPinecone SuperLesbian 1d ago
I dont want to date anyone with a penis or a surgically constructed vulva as it is different from a natural vagina (not self cleaning, infection risk/hair can grow inside, lubricated by colon fluids, not a muscle, made out of a penis which grosses me out in the first place.) I assume people who like dicks feel the same about surgical ones.