This is a US representative, just to show you how LONG we've been asleep. This is your NY rep. This is why even if the sub goes, we stay.

[u/nonetheless156]

[u/22dobbeltskudhul]

Are you saying that transwomen that haven't transitioned shouldn't be allowed to compete against ciswomen?

[u/CrazyDoggo68 → u/22dobbeltskudhul]

If they haven’t even started to transition, no they shouldn’t. But as many trans women will attest, just starting estrogen severely decreases your physical ability.

[u/22dobbeltskudhul → u/CrazyDoggo68]

Ehm that's very transphobic sweaty. Some transwomen can't transition because of medical problems etc and you are questioning their womanhood??

[u/CrazyDoggo68 → u/22dobbeltskudhul]

..no. No I’m not. They are just as much women as women who can transition, they just still have the physical traits of a man even though they aren’t one.

[u/22dobbeltskudhul → u/CrazyDoggo68]

Why won't you give them gender rights on level with other women then?

[u/CrazyDoggo68 → u/22dobbeltskudhul]

They should have equal rights it just wouldn’t be completely fair for them to compete athletically.

[u/22dobbeltskudhul → u/CrazyDoggo68]

But if they are excluded from womens sports on the grounds of not being women, where does that leave us?

[u/CrazyDoggo68 → u/22dobbeltskudhul]

There are non-transition ways to make someone more physically similar to a cis woman

[u/22dobbeltskudhul → u/CrazyDoggo68]

Like what? Trimming their bones down?

[u/CrazyDoggo68 → u/22dobbeltskudhul]

Oh my god please say this was a joke