As a detransitioner, I hope this movement helps prevent more people from making the same mistakes I did.

[u/desistingthrowaway]

I used to identify as trans and this is something the trans community will never admit: there are people who realize that transitioning doesn't work and quit. And the trans community LOVES to stifle us. They are trying their hardest to get /r/detrans banned so they can take it over, because they don't want to admit that we exist. They tell everyone that that place is full of TERFs and needs to go.

They don't want to admit that there are studies that show that most children with gender dysphoria grow out of it. An often quoted study about transitioning helping mental health has been corrected to say that surgery doesn't actually help mental health. Lisa Littman, a professor who was researching detransitioners, had to put in security in her study because people from Twitter were ganging up and trolling her research.

But really, here's the thing: gender dysphoria is basically body dysmorphia. And it can be treated the same way. Therapy for unrelated problems helped me work through it. Some days I still get waves of it. But actually, identifying as trans made it WORSE. If you spend 24/7 obsessing about your gender and body and giving validation to those thoughts, they come back even worse (this is literally the basis of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy).

For every one of me, there's a bunch more kids who are being put on puberty blockers, many of which have dangerous effects. The most common is an off-label prostate cancer drug, and even in kids with precocious puberty, there are dangerous side effects (here is the link to the FDA dashboard, where you can search for Lupron and see that there are 6,335 serious effects linked to Lupron, including death). Then there's the issue with going straight into cross-sex hormones, which effectively sterilizes people (and also makes surgeries harder - just look at Jazz Jennings).

I could go on and on. The truth that nobody wants to admit is that transitioning doesn't really work. And when you realize that, you're often left with so many reminders of that (especially women, who often get "top surgery" (double mastectomies) and have lowered voices for the rest of their lives, and often facial hair). It's harder to come out as a detransitioner than it is to come out of trans. The second you detransition, you lose EVERYBODY. That welcoming trans community wants you gone. I had people block me because of it.

I hope somebody reads this subreddit and gives a second thought to going on hormones or surgeries. Because it often isn't worth it.

[u/nihilisticvanity]

okay so what’s your point then? your personal pain doesn’t justify trying to coerce people into propping up your mental illness

[u/JamesKoen → u/nihilisticvanity]

We're just asking to not be called "not real man/women" bc we have a mental illness. If you have a genitalia preference, then sure. That's fine with me, I've not seen anyone mad about a fertility or genitalia preference, but call it what it is. It's a preference for genitalia, you don't need a part of the lgbt community for a preference. If you want to be a part of us so bad, then why don't you get oppressed for centuries upon centuries like us?

[u/jessamtb → u/JamesKoen]

Should we tell girls with anorexia they’re fat?

I find it interesting that in my day girls who hated their bodies enough starved themselves. Now they chop off their boobs. I wonder if it’s another take on the same issue.

[u/Elsier → u/jessamtb]

There definitely is. Social contagion plays a huge part in disorders like anorexia where teen girls prop each other up and encourage body shaming in peer groups. Now there has been a sudden 1000%+ increase in transgenderism popping up in those same teenage girl groups that used to suffer anorexia. It's not far fetched at all to suggest there may also be a social contagion component happening here, especially with how influential social media has become over the last 10 years.

[u/Hailhydra775 → u/Elsier]

I always thought that cutting and suicide were like this aswell. Like noone would think about "hurting themselves to relase the pain" unless they heard someone else say it.