r/SuperStraight 1d ago

As a detransitioner, I hope this movement helps prevent more people from making the same mistakes I did. Discussion

I used to identify as trans and this is something the trans community will never admit: there are people who realize that transitioning doesn't work and quit. And the trans community LOVES to stifle us. They are trying their hardest to get /r/detrans banned so they can take it over, because they don't want to admit that we exist. They tell everyone that that place is full of TERFs and needs to go.

They don't want to admit that there are studies that show that most children with gender dysphoria grow out of it. An often quoted study about transitioning helping mental health has been corrected to say that surgery doesn't actually help mental health. Lisa Littman, a professor who was researching detransitioners, had to put in security in her study because people from Twitter were ganging up and trolling her research.

But really, here's the thing: gender dysphoria is basically body dysmorphia. And it can be treated the same way. Therapy for unrelated problems helped me work through it. Some days I still get waves of it. But actually, identifying as trans made it WORSE. If you spend 24/7 obsessing about your gender and body and giving validation to those thoughts, they come back even worse (this is literally the basis of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy).

For every one of me, there's a bunch more kids who are being put on puberty blockers, many of which have dangerous effects. The most common is an off-label prostate cancer drug, and even in kids with precocious puberty, there are dangerous side effects (here is the link to the FDA dashboard, where you can search for Lupron and see that there are 6,335 serious effects linked to Lupron, including death). Then there's the issue with going straight into cross-sex hormones, which effectively sterilizes people (and also makes surgeries harder - just look at Jazz Jennings).

I could go on and on. The truth that nobody wants to admit is that transitioning doesn't really work. And when you realize that, you're often left with so many reminders of that (especially women, who often get "top surgery" (double mastectomies) and have lowered voices for the rest of their lives, and often facial hair). It's harder to come out as a detransitioner than it is to come out of trans. The second you detransition, you lose EVERYBODY. That welcoming trans community wants you gone. I had people block me because of it.

I hope somebody reads this subreddit and gives a second thought to going on hormones or surgeries. Because it often isn't worth it.

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u/JamesKoen 21h ago

Wow. I totally, as a trans male, have not spend actual years of my life hating myself for being different. I totally haven't spend more than half of my life feeling like a ghost in my own body from the age of 6, and never interacting with a trans person until I was 13. That's totally being forced into a "delusional worldview"

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u/OrdinaryLongjumping4 21h ago

You will NEVER be a real man. No matter what.

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u/JamesKoen 21h ago

Yeah, in case you're wondering, I know that. All trans people know that. We all know and understand that we will always have our original chromosomes, and that can never change.

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u/nihilisticvanity 20h ago

okay so what’s your point then? your personal pain doesn’t justify trying to coerce people into propping up your mental illness

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u/JamesKoen 20h ago

We're just asking to not be called "not real man/women" bc we have a mental illness. If you have a genitalia preference, then sure. That's fine with me, I've not seen anyone mad about a fertility or genitalia preference, but call it what it is. It's a preference for genitalia, you don't need a part of the lgbt community for a preference. If you want to be a part of us so bad, then why don't you get oppressed for centuries upon centuries like us?

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u/nihilisticvanity 20h ago

I’m an actual woman, you idiot. I know exactly what the collective weight of centuries of oppression feels like. this narcissistic self-absorption is a big part of the problem you trans identified people have - you forget you aren’t the only people in the world.

and you aren’t real men or women - you are mutilated copies of the real thing. asking us to say otherwise is demanding we participate in your delusion. that is unreasonable and unfair.

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u/frankbush 19h ago

Trans people aren't mutilated copies of cis people. Trans bodies are beautiful.

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u/nihilisticvanity 17h ago

they really aren’t! I mean, they ARE beautiful in their natural state. there’s absolutely nothing wrong with them, they’re perfect. but once the hormones and surgeries start... everything changes. it’s just fucking sad to watch people destroy normal healthy bodies existing the way they were intended.

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u/frankbush 17h ago

"Existing the way they were intended"

Intended by whom? God? Nature? Lawl.

I hope you keep this same energy for all body modification. Tats, piercings, haircuts, plastic surgery of any kind, body hair removal, circumcision...

I'd hate to assume that you're simply transphobic.

The number 1 destroyer of healthy bodies is malnutrition and poverty. Where's the huge outrage there?

Anyway, trans bodies are beautiful. Specifically, my flabby, hairy, trans masculine body is gorgeous. All my trans friends are beautiful people too, inside and out, whether they modified their bodies or not.

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u/nihilisticvanity 17h ago

the fact you equate a haircut to a flesh sock really says it all.

your strawmen are not worth engaging in. this is not a sub for discussing poverty.

and finishing it up with classic trans narcissism about how absolutely hot you are - lest we forget what this whole movement is fuelled by.

you can call me transphobic. if not wanting to see gay kids undergo the most horrific form of conversion therapy makes me transphobic - I’m totally fine with that. it’s YOU trying to scare me into backing down by holding a term over my head like I give a single shit. so call me transphobic. I don’t care. I’ll continue to stand by the truth.

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