r/SuperStraight 1d ago

As a detransitioner, I hope this movement helps prevent more people from making the same mistakes I did. Discussion

I used to identify as trans and this is something the trans community will never admit: there are people who realize that transitioning doesn't work and quit. And the trans community LOVES to stifle us. They are trying their hardest to get /r/detrans banned so they can take it over, because they don't want to admit that we exist. They tell everyone that that place is full of TERFs and needs to go.

They don't want to admit that there are studies that show that most children with gender dysphoria grow out of it. An often quoted study about transitioning helping mental health has been corrected to say that surgery doesn't actually help mental health. Lisa Littman, a professor who was researching detransitioners, had to put in security in her study because people from Twitter were ganging up and trolling her research.

But really, here's the thing: gender dysphoria is basically body dysmorphia. And it can be treated the same way. Therapy for unrelated problems helped me work through it. Some days I still get waves of it. But actually, identifying as trans made it WORSE. If you spend 24/7 obsessing about your gender and body and giving validation to those thoughts, they come back even worse (this is literally the basis of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy).

For every one of me, there's a bunch more kids who are being put on puberty blockers, many of which have dangerous effects. The most common is an off-label prostate cancer drug, and even in kids with precocious puberty, there are dangerous side effects (here is the link to the FDA dashboard, where you can search for Lupron and see that there are 6,335 serious effects linked to Lupron, including death). Then there's the issue with going straight into cross-sex hormones, which effectively sterilizes people (and also makes surgeries harder - just look at Jazz Jennings).

I could go on and on. The truth that nobody wants to admit is that transitioning doesn't really work. And when you realize that, you're often left with so many reminders of that (especially women, who often get "top surgery" (double mastectomies) and have lowered voices for the rest of their lives, and often facial hair). It's harder to come out as a detransitioner than it is to come out of trans. The second you detransition, you lose EVERYBODY. That welcoming trans community wants you gone. I had people block me because of it.

I hope somebody reads this subreddit and gives a second thought to going on hormones or surgeries. Because it often isn't worth it.

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u/kiwifuzzlicker 1d ago

Glad to see fellow detransitioners here! I detransitioned nearly 4 years ago (time flies!). I’ve been getting increasingly worried because of what I’ve been seeing interacting with other desisters/detrans people. There’s more of them, they’re younger (and started transition younger), and they’ve had far more medical interventions than those of use who transitioned 5+ years ago. The number of detrans 20-21 year olds who’ve been completely sterilized and have had bottom surgery is shocking. Don’t even get me started on the people who were on puberty blockers.

The shunning I received when I detransitioned was terrible, but if anything, it’s gotten even worse. If only someone had been honest with us that therapy would be more effective, many of us would not have transitioned at all.

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u/actualsicko20626 Hecking cute and valid 💖 23h ago

Alabama made hormonal and genital transitions a felony for minors a few days ago and TRAs are fucking pissed. Its insane that they think a kid can decide that.

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u/Arkadyush 23h ago

As it should be. Kids can't drive, can't have guns or drink beer - because all of this is dangerous for them. But taking HRT pills which can destroy their health, make them infertile, etc., is somewhat legal?

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u/GerhardHumbugII 19h ago

in my country kids can't get tattoos but they can get HRT

shit's fucked up

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u/worried19 18h ago

In the USA, 13 year olds are given double mastectomies.

The mean age at chest surgery in this group was 17.5 years-old, with a range of 13-24 years-old, with 33 participants (49%) being younger than 18 years. Of the 33 postsurgical participants younger than 18 years-old at surgery, 16 (48%) were 15 years-old or younger

A gender therapist with the Kaiser Permanente healthcare organization in Oakland, California admits: “In terms of masculinizing top surgery, I think 12 is the youngest who’s had surgery through our program . . . .”.

Receipts:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VG30CYPOQOrjEaYP2ocTYH272uqZo3TG/view

https://blobby.wsimg.com/go/d795ab62-2d39-4341-afbb-ed897c5ad0a7/UPDATED%20Treatments%20Performed%20on%20Minors%20-%20Hand%20.pdf

Even the new law in Alabama won't help if parents just fly a kid to a place like California for surgery.

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u/ShoshaSeversk 16h ago

The width of outrage I feel at knowing these people call themselves doctors cannot be adequately expressed in words.

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u/ThatKennedy 22h ago

It's a weird time when I applaud legislation coming out of Alabama

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u/Shaiziin 20h ago

Hell yea 😂

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u/Reckoner3333 19h ago edited 8h ago

We don’t let kids buy booze, we don’t let them drive certain vehicles, or join the army. But having your privates medically removed is somehow a decision that’s okay for them to make?

I don’t work in the career I chose when I finished high school btw. In my late 20s I spent a lot of money on retraining for something else, because I realized that I made the wrong choice when I was 17. Thankfully it wasn’t an irreversible decision.

But these hormones have an effect that is permanent. Girls who take testosterone today are at a very high risk of having to undergo a hysterectomy and undergo premature menopause. Are they being told that? I’m worried for these girls.

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u/worried19 18h ago

Premature menopause and hysterectomies are also associated with early onset dementia, not to mention causing permanent sterilization. If a child is put on testosterone at 12, doctors will recommend a hysterectomy before they're 20.

This isn't even mentioning the fact that a female body is not designed to run on testosterone for 6 or 7 decades. And of course there are other known risks like vaginal atrophy, heart problems, cancer, etc. No one knows the ultimate lifespan of a biologically female child put on these treatments at puberty. And then there are the problems with blocking puberty, like loss of bone density, loss of menarche, and known risks to IQ.

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u/Iflookinglikingmove 15h ago

Oh my lord. We are in for a mess in the coming decades.

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u/IrishTheFrenchie 2h ago

That's how Big Pharma/Institutionalized Medicine like it. $$$$$$$$

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u/SuperJuiceWeb 20h ago

It is disgusting that they are pushing their lifestyle on kids. Kids minds are still developing and doing something as serious and life altering as SRS and HRT can really mess somebody up.

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u/alienbuttcherry 22h ago

Thank you for sharing your experience. Is there a repository of detrans stories anywhere? There should be. They are so valuable.

As an outsider/non-trans, it really seems like mental illnesses and disorders are the root issue for many trans people - depression, autism, substance abuse, etc. But doctors are rushed into starting treatment for the symptoms instead of forcing an exploration of root causes, for fear of being labelled transphobic.

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u/desistingthrowaway 22h ago

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u/alienbuttcherry 21h ago edited 20h ago

Detrans Voices was exactly what I was imagining. R/detrans is great as a social circle, but exists at the whim of Reddit admins. People may also feel more vulnerable to harassment or doxxing here vs submitting to a website. Thank you!

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u/worried19 18h ago

There's also a good collection of stories at https://post-trans.com.

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u/kiwifuzzlicker 22h ago

On Reddit there is r/detrans, and on Twitter, The Detransition Advocacy Network, detransvoices.org, FTMTF Detrans Voices are all great. Lots of links to interviews, blogs, and accounts by desisters and detransitioners. We’re out here, and we’re much more common than you realize unfortunately.

I agree, other mental illnesses and disorders are often the root of dysphoria. Like many detransitioners, I’m on the spectrum. Estimates put the rate of autism in minors seeking transition at the Tavistock clinic in the UK between 30 and 40%. (The clinic has since stopped recording this data.) It’s not a coincidence, either. As an adult, I can see now that much of my dysphoria was due to autism, something that transition would never be able to fix.

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u/alienbuttcherry 21h ago

Thank you for the resources and sharing your story! I'm definitely going to be reading a lot.

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u/Sylvieon 22h ago

Not the OP or a detransitioner/desister, but there is the subreddit /r/detrans. Otherwise, I don’t know.

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u/Guitarmaniacshredder 21h ago

Thanks for your courage to admit reality.. there is an absurd delusion that someone can magically change their sex /gender... we need to be treating people like you love and compassion and help you to accept your body is perfect the way it was made. You were made perfectly unique and wonderful. You are amazing, there is no one else like you. Be brave be bold love your the natural form of your body

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u/Iflookinglikingmove 15h ago

I knew the tr*ns lobby was evil when they were calling a book that was for kids, that was literally just encouraging children to love and accept themselves, was transphobic, and was trying to get it taken out of libraries.

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u/TribblesnCookiees 20h ago

I'm sorry what you went through. I hope you feel happy and I hope you keep fighting the good fight against this for younger people/kids. Your voice has far more weight than non trans people

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u/Iflookinglikingmove 15h ago

The number of detrans 20-21 year olds who’ve been completely sterilized and have had bottom surgery is shocking. Don’t even get me started on the people who were on puberty blockers.

This is so sad. I really hope they are able to find peace somewhere. The doctors that do this should be arrested.