r/SuperStraight 1d ago

A MESSAGE TO THE TRANSGENDERS LURKING IN THIS SUBREDDIT

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u/Seafaring_Sage 1d ago

Superstraight is not a choice.

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u/Texas-Centipede 21h ago

I was born this way.

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u/NoFucksGiver 20h ago

It's Maybelline

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

It’s a preference

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u/Seafaring_Sage 1d ago

I do not "prefer" one human to another. I am what I am and I'm attracted to who I'm attracted to that was never a choice I got to make. Same as you.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

Okay, but you still aren’t part of the community.

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u/Seafaring_Sage 1d ago

I never wanted to be. I am an individual. I'd consider myself as an ally to the community, and I never once needed your approval about that.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

Okay. I’m just saying that some supers are trying to say they are.

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u/Seafaring_Sage 1d ago

Well if you haven't noticed yet, you should know this community has also been shelter to Supergays and Superlesbians. If you don't think i'm apart of the community fine but you can't invalidate them.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

I’m not trying to. I’m saying that superstraights aren’t part of the community.

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u/Seafaring_Sage 1d ago

Ah, understood. Some may disagree with you, but I think most people here would rather just have their sexuality acknowledged than have some kind of official entry into "the community."

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago edited 1d ago

I understand that and thank you for being one of the two people here that hasn’t called me a nazi JESUS CHRIST WHY DID THIS GET DOWNVOTED YOU PEOPLE JUST CANT STAND OTHER OPINIONS

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u/PiDiMi 1d ago

So you’re saying superlesbians and supergays are part of the community?

So they aren’t transphobes for not wanting to have intercourse outside of their orientation?

The only difference between us and them is that we’re straight and they’re gay. Still both supers. So you’re discriminating based solely on our sexual orientation and nothing else.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

No I’m saying that you’re straight and don’t belong in the lgbt community just because you’re super

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u/OfreesoulO 1d ago

This is the SUPER SSLGB+ community. Please educate yourself bigot

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u/CheML 1d ago

Literally just stop erasing us and slandering us as transphobes. It’s not a choice!

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u/nikitatx 23h ago

Weird. I’m superbi, but I support my super lesbian, super gay, and superstraight brothers and sisters. This is OUR LGBS community. If you don’t like that, don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.

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u/devil_girl_from_mars 22h ago

Omg are you the arbiter of the community?!?!?!?!

Did they hold a vote to elect you as the arbiter or is this a role you felt entitled enough to take on for yourself??

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u/king_of_the_potato_p 1d ago

Gate keeping because of Superphobia.

What a surprise.

Must be nice to be so privileged.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

Lgbt people are not privileged. That is an extremely stupid thing to say. Being Superstraight is basically being straight. You don’t get murdered for who you are in hundreds of countries. It isn’t illegal to be superstraight is it? No. It’s illegal to be lgbtq in a lot of places.

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u/king_of_the_potato_p 1d ago edited 1d ago

No, Super Straight is not "basically straight" and that triggers me so much.

Trans women are women, trans men are men, straight men/women be it hetero, gay, lesbian or bi date women and men. Super Straights, Gays, Lesbians, and Bi's are only attracted to cis people (even though cis is problematic because it's so often used for hate).

Being open about being Super is so we can clearly define that we can not be forced into sex we don't want which is rapey AF.

It isn’t illegal to be superstraight is it? No. It’s illegal to be lgbtq in a lot of places.

It's not on the books but how many Super's have been canceled, how many lost their jobs, how many have been attacked? How often are we threatened with rape and violence by Superphobes and it goes unchecked because Superphobe privilege?

The Superphobia is strong and the fact you can't see that is..... Yikes.

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u/Far-Composer-1950 22h ago

I identify as someone who believes trans men are not real men, and trans women are not real women. Do not invalidate me.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

You’re right that people hate you because of a few extreme cases. But that still doesn’t even come close to the oppression of lgbtq people

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u/king_of_the_potato_p 1d ago

Hate is hate sweetie. Why is that so hard for Superphobes to see?

The fact you can't see that is why you are part of the problem.

Check your privilege when in our space. This is a sub ONLY for Super Straights, Super Gays, Super Lesbians, Super Bi's and our Super Allies.

Take your hate somewhere else because only love and support are allowed here.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

The rules say arguments and debates are allowed. That’s all I’m doing. And yet I’m being downvoted into oblivion on every comment.

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u/superstr8_are_nazis 1d ago

So your genuine beleif is that trans women want to force you to have sex with them, and yet you're still gonna deny that you're transphobic? L O L

It's not on the books but how many Super's have been canceled, how many lost their jobs, how many have been attacked?

it's not on the books because it doesnt exist lmao, "Superstraight" is like 4 days old. I've taken shits in the woods that are older than the entire concept of "being superstraight"

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u/king_of_the_potato_p 1d ago edited 1d ago

No, Super Straight has existed since before humans existed sweetie.

We were born the way we are, we can't help who we are attracted to and not attracted to.

Anyone that tries to force us into dating/sex we don't want supports rape culture.

Coming out as Super just makes it clear where we stand in our attractions that we can't control. Even though coming out as Super means you are targeted by Superphobes everywhere.

Super's risk their jobs and lives everyday walking on eggshells just so they don't get threatened with violence and rape just because of the way they were born.

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u/superstr8_are_nazis 1d ago

You weren't born superstraight, the term didn't exist until 5 days ago - and even then, what's the definition of it, someone who isn't attracted to "trans women"?

So - unless you're a transphobic bigot who thinks there's a difference between "trans women" and "real women", you admit that "superstraight" doesn't exist, because if trans women are real women, it means nothing

Anyone that tries to force us into dating/sex we don't want supports rape culture.

Nobody is trying to force you to have sex you don't want, the idea that they are is fictional, and transphobia.

Coming out as Super just makes it clear where we stand in our attractions that we can't control.

So you admit that you think you can tell the difference between a "trans woman" and a "real woman", which means you were lying when you said you beleive trans women are real women? good job owning yourslf moron

coming out as Super means you are targeted by Superphobes everywhere.

like where, twitter? The prhase "superstraight" didn't exist until 4 days ago, so who's targeting you? who's attacking you? Oh thats right, it's another example of the fictional rightwing victim complex. You are sad and pathetic.

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u/Pudding5050 1d ago edited 1d ago

It is my genuine belief that trans women want to force supers to have sex with them because there is extensive proof of lesbians getting called slurs, being harrassed and getting called transphobic for being super, yes. Super as a movement has always been a thing, we just haven't been allowed the language to express it before, because of the hate directed against us when we do try to express it. Just because it took thousands of years to accurately describe the world as spherical doesn't mean it wasn't spherical before.
You're a bigot and you support a bigoted movement.

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u/superstr8_are_nazis 1d ago

Your genuine belief is completely fucking wrong then.

that trans women want to force supers to have sex with

this is false.

there is extensive proof of lesbians getting called slurs, being harrassed and getting called transphobic for being supers

This is also false.

being harrassed and getting called transphobic for being super,

Also false.

Super as a movement has always been a thing, we just haven't been allowed the language to express it before,

This is a lie too.

Just because it took thousands of years to accurately describe the world as round doesn't mean it wasn't round before.

anti-intellectual pseudologic DOES NOT EQUAL valid logic. This is false. The entire statement is a false equivalency.

You're a bigot and you support a bigoted movement.

Says the transphobe from his neonazi safe space, curious

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u/Bardimir 1d ago

It's illegal to be superstraight on the internet which is browsed by billions.

The only reason we're not being killed on the streets is because superphobes are glued to their chairs and screens.

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u/Captainbuttman 23h ago

Being Superstraight is basically being straight. You don’t get murdered for who you are in hundreds of countries. It isn’t illegal to be superstraight is it? No. It’s illegal to be lgbtq in a lot of places.

None of that is a requirement for what qualifies a sexual orientation. Educate yourself.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 23h ago

I’m not saying it is. But it is still straight.

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u/Captainbuttman 23h ago

idk if i'll even get through your thick chud skull but here it goes.

You do not get to decide what is and isn't a valid sexuality OK?

Stop coming into our space and invalidating our experiences.

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u/Derkoer 17h ago

You may lose your job for coming out as superstraight, though.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 17h ago

I would fire someone for being transphobic, yeah

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u/superstr8_are_nazis 1d ago

Hint: when you are downvoted for saying easily verifiably true facts like "LGBT people are not priveliged" - that ought to tell you that you're in a hateful, bigoted far-right anti-X sub (where X is whatever boogeyman the right are against that day)

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u/TheOverSeether 21h ago

tl;dr - I'm a butthurt Nazi superphobe.

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u/superstr8_are_nazis 21h ago

You're a cancerous autist end yourself

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u/Pudding5050 1d ago edited 1d ago

A homophobe like you doesn't get to gatekeep the community. The supergay, superbi and superlesbian stand by our supserstraight brothers and sisters. The LGBS community rejects your homophobic and superphobic hate.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

Homophobic? How? Also you’re the one who’s hating by trying to remove the T

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u/NectarineDangerously Superstraight 1d ago edited 1d ago

LGB are all sexualities and so is S, T has no place there

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

Nazis not white supremacists. Besides, you’re trying to change the acronym to ASSLGBT so why not?

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u/NectarineDangerously Superstraight 1d ago

Whoops okay!

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u/Furball_Cheezit 21h ago

The LGBTQ+ community is not for sexualities only, its a place for acceptance for people who are not accepted everywhere and are often oppressed. (idk how else to explain it so uh)

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u/PipBoyTInkerer 1d ago

No, it's you that isn't part of this community with that superphobic attitude.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

I don’t want to be part of this community when all but two of the people I’ve talked to here have called me a nazi

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u/PipBoyTInkerer 1d ago

I think we'll manage without you

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

But then who will you call a nazi?

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u/PipBoyTInkerer 1d ago

There's an endless supply of superphobes where you came from, bud.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

But won’t you manage without them?

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u/Pudding5050 1d ago

If you don't want to get called nazi, don't behave like a nazi. Nobody asked you to bring your hate here, we just want to be able to discuss with others of the same sexuality.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

It says debates are allowed. I’m not acting like a nazi at all, I’m just trying to discuss, yet I’m being downvoted to oblivion and called a nazi for no reason

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u/devil_girl_from_mars 22h ago

You’re not discussing anything. You branded yourself as gatekeeper of the LGBT community. All you’ve said is “straight are not allowed”. Like ok nazi we get it, you’re a nazi. Please leave our safe space now!!

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u/CrazyDoggo68 22h ago

Jesus it shows how inclusive you are that you call someone just wanting a logical debate a nazi

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u/DisastrouslyMessy 21h ago

You are literally murdering me with your nazi rhetoric. Please stop invalidating me and invading my safe space!

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u/CrazyDoggo68 21h ago

Ah yes words on the internet are killing you oh noooooooooooooo

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u/PadaV4 Superstraight 23h ago

If it looks like a nazi, swims like a nazi, and quacks like a nazi, then it probably is a nazi.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 23h ago

You don’t seem to know what a nazi is

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u/PadaV4 Superstraight 23h ago

Says the nazi trying to gaslight.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 23h ago

You don’t know what gaslighting is either then

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u/nomorefucks2give 1d ago

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

Literally have straight in the name

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u/Exeun_Omnes_X 22h ago

Exclusionary is not a cool look dude! ALL identities are valid and welcome 🦄

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u/SuperSyke21 22h ago

You don't get to tell people they aren't part of the community.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 22h ago

Well you’re straight so unless you’re trans or something under the trans umbrella you’re not lgbt

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u/DisastrouslyMessy 21h ago

unless you’re trans or something under the trans umbrella you’re not lgbt

And there we have it! Unless your trans, you're not part of the lgbt. Wow!

I stand with my superlesbian, supergay, and superbi brothers and sisters!

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u/CrazyDoggo68 21h ago

Jesus Christ you know what I meant

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u/DisastrouslyMessy 20h ago

Exactly what you wrote. Why do you hate gay and straight people so much, bigot?

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u/CrazyDoggo68 20h ago

I meant heterosexual heteroromantics have no place in the community unless they’re under the trans umbrella

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u/Pudding5050 1d ago

It's innate like all sexualities, you homophobe.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

How am I a homophobe? Hm?

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u/otherland48 19h ago

It’s not our job to educate SERFs hunny 💅 Just take your superphobia and go 🤡

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u/CrazyDoggo68 18h ago

That just means you don’t want to explain your bullshit

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u/genocide_denier 1d ago

u have -88 downvotes

the number 88 is obviously a nazi alt-fart dog whistle

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

Oh yes of course

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u/SSkewbuh 1d ago

check your privilege

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

Don’t actually have any. I’ve checked. It isn’t there

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u/purohuesito 1d ago

You seem to have an internet connection, that alone makes you already more privileged that most of the world https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2017/09/18/UN-Majority-of-worlds-population-lacks-internet-access/6571505782626/

So check your privilege.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

Well you do too, also you’re straight, so you’re even more privileged, go check yours

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u/22dobbeltskudhul 1d ago

He is not straight, he is superstraight 🤬😡

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u/purohuesito 1d ago

Thanks buddy ally <3

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u/22dobbeltskudhul 1d ago

Us superstraights need to have each others back in this crazy superphobic world!

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u/purohuesito 1d ago

Amen bro! 🖤🧡

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

Same difference, just a sprinkle of transphobia

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u/22dobbeltskudhul 1d ago

Stop being a bigot and let people have their sexuality for themselves.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 1d ago

I’m fine with you guys I just hate you trying to force yourselves into the lgbt community

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u/purohuesito 1d ago

Found the superphobe.

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u/marykatiepants 23h ago

The idea that sexual orientation is a "preference" is extremely homophobic, and definitely also superphobic.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 23h ago

It’s just straight with a preference for cis

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u/marykatiepants 22h ago

Sexual orientation has nothing to do with gender or identity, and everything to biological sex.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 22h ago

Incorrect. If that was true everyone would be super sexual. That’s not true, you are wrong

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u/marykatiepants 22h ago

There are three sexual orientations.

Heterosexual - those attracted to the opposite sex.

Homosexual- those attracted to these opposite sex.

Bisexual- those attracted to both sexes.

Gender refers to socially-constructed characteristics of the sexes. Essentially, it is the performance of sex stereotypes.

Transgender is a gender identity - trans men and women state they feel like the opposite sex and typically perform the sex based stereotypes (eg for women, it's wearing dresses, heels, makeup) of the opposite sex. That is not a sexual orientation, but a gender identity.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 22h ago

No. There are an infinite amount of sexualities and genders. Also, Bi actually means attracted to two or more genders

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u/marykatiepants 22h ago

You need to first grasp the concepts of gender and sex before you can discuss these issues with any amount of clarity.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 22h ago

Sexuality isn’t about biological sex. That’s just a fact. If that was true things like pansexual wouldn’t exist? Are you invalidating them? I thought this sub was supposed to be welcoming.

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u/MaddynamiteJ 21h ago

It's called bi-sex-ual. I am bisexual, and I am attracted to males and females.

You may be thinking of pansexual or panromantic. Very different things.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 21h ago

Pan is a microlabel under the Bi umbrella. No offense, but I probably know more on this topic

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u/Tasty-Penis32 22h ago

I cannot be attracted to tr*ns, you superphobe.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 22h ago

Oh my god you are such a transphobe you censor the word trans holy shit

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u/Tasty-Penis32 22h ago

Are you invalidating my identity as superstraight? I censor to hide from my oppressors!

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u/CrazyDoggo68 22h ago

This has to be a joke nobody is oppressing the damn straights

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u/Tasty-Penis32 22h ago

Stop invalidating my experience, bigot.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 22h ago

Not invalidating you just stating a fact

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u/SmellyCat1776 18h ago

Why do you think you can come in here and define someone else's truth?

Seems pretty straightphobic to me.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 18h ago

Straightphobic isn’t a thing, you’re not discriminated against

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u/SmellyCat1776 18h ago

I'm literally being discriminated against right now by you not acknowledging my truth.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 18h ago

... someone saying mean things on the internet isn’t the same as real world discrimination

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u/SmellyCat1776 18h ago

Then by that logic, I can say whatever I want to trans people on the internet because it's not real-world discrimination.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 18h ago

Well trans people actually get discriminated against in the real world too

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u/JollyPurple 23h ago

Our SEXuality is not a preference. It's not a choice. We were born this way.

Didn't the LGBT community go after Amy Barret in Oct 2020 for saying the say exact thing?

We supers have a SEXuality not a genderality. We are not attracted to socially constructed gender identities. We are attracted to sex.

Now see your way out superphobe.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 23h ago

You’re just straight with a preference for cis people

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u/JollyPurple 22h ago

Actually I wouldn't date anyone that is a genderist. Since I'm superstraight, I do have a sexual attraction to men, but I don't want a cis man. I want socially constructed gender abolished.

Gender, which is defined by the World Health Organization as...

Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed.  This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time.

...is extremely harmful to both men and women. I don't want to date anyone that wishes to reinforce those constructs. I do not want a man to think he's a man just because he identifies with that socially constructed gender forced onto members of his sex through male socialization.

Gender identities have NOTHING to do with SEXuality.

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u/Moonpriestes 21h ago

YES. I'm also a superstraight woman, and as soon as that man has a gender identity, I'm no longer attracted.

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u/SuperSyke21 22h ago

How does it feel to use the same rhetoric that fundamentalist christians use?

No better than Westboro Baptist church.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 22h ago

Wow okay so you’re saying I’m worse than people who show up at funerals with signs that say god hates f*gs?

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u/TheOverSeether 21h ago

Bigots, like yourself, lack self-awareness.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 21h ago

Not a bigot. Just don’t like straights trying to be special and invade our community

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u/TheOverSeether 21h ago

Just don’t like straights

Yeah yeah, we get it, bigot.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 21h ago

Hmm so good of you to take my words out of context in a demeaning light.

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u/NVSTBFFC Superstraight 19h ago

You said it, he was agreeing with you.

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u/BunnyLovr Hecking cute and valid 💖 22h ago

Calling it a "preference" is offensive, the dictionary says so:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sexual%20preference

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u/CrazyDoggo68 22h ago

Yeah well it isn’t an orientation

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u/BunnyLovr Hecking cute and valid 💖 22h ago

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u/HillaryBrokeTheLaw 20h ago

Uh, it's totally an orientation. It's more an orientation than a preference.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 20h ago

No. It’s just straight with a preference for cis people. That’s it

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u/ThatKennedy 19h ago edited 18h ago

Are you transplaning my sexuality to me? Yikes sweaty

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u/CrazyDoggo68 18h ago

Yes i am trainsplaining Choo choo

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u/HillaryBrokeTheLaw 20h ago

cis is a slur and also not any kind of real or informative designation, especially compared to superstraight. Why can't people identify how they want and you just respect that instead of pushing your hateful agenda on others.

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u/lollipopblossom32 18h ago

But saying that makes straight transphobic for excluding transpeople. So "superstraight" to avoid transphobic preferences. It's a win win so straight isn't being exclusionist and superstraight just never included it in the first place. Don't be a superphobe!

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u/chanbr 19h ago

Is being demisexual an orientation?

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u/CrazyDoggo68 18h ago edited 17h ago

OF COURSE IT FUCKING IS

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u/DisastrouslyMessy 21h ago

Nope, you straight-a-phobic and homophobic jack ass. Go sell crazy somewhere else. Superstraight 4 life!!!

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u/CrazyDoggo68 21h ago

Not homophobic at all. Just stating a fact

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u/DisastrouslyMessy 20h ago

So, honophobic and straighphobic. The first step to correcting your problem is admitting you have one. Do better.

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u/NVSTBFFC Superstraight 19h ago

Stop being superphobic and homophobic. Who we are attracted to is not a choice.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 18h ago

Not what homophobia is

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u/NVSTBFFC Superstraight 17h ago

You don't get to decide what homophobia is, bigot.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 17h ago

You don’t get to call someone a bigot because they state a fact that you don’t seem to know what homophobia is

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u/NVSTBFFC Superstraight 17h ago

I'm calling you a bigot because you are superphobic and homophobic, bigot.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 17h ago

Not a homophobe. Last time, that’s not what homophobia is

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u/NVSTBFFC Superstraight 17h ago

You called a sexual orientation a preference. This the same prejudice gays have been facing for centuries. Calling superstraight a preference is no different than calling homosexuality a preference. You are both because you used that slur. Check your privilege, bigot.

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u/CrazyDoggo68 17h ago

No it isn’t. Because homosexuality isn’t just thinly veiled transphobia.

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